Open 624 Fire and Ice - Fire Mafia Wins

[beeboy]

@Masquerade I am still waiting on you to explain your claim on Shinobi

[Aristophanes]

What makes Something Smart sticking to his guns scummy in this instance?

To start off the original push was incredibly forced saying the Vivo was trying to force a lynch using a buzz words. This is incredibly dramatic claim imo but it is understandable that someone would believe this.
Then Vivo explained his reasoning but something_smart refused to believe it which I already explained why I believed that was incredibly scummy behavior. Another thing is whether or not they disagree on what a slip-up is if Vivo think that a slip-up is incredibly different from a slip something_smart should have realized it wasn't a scum intent but rather a misunderstanding to he kept pushing.
(This occurred after I made the claim)
He then proceeded to try and twist my argument at the end of post 112 and in post 114. Which further discredits the town incentive in his original claim because he has been consistently exaggerating or twisting claims.

Cool, I rescind my prior comments on you.

Plus, saying you look like you're trying to blend in?

Did I say that?

Shinobi gives me the feeling that he's trying to avoid being suspected. Which he's not doing a very good job at.

No, not at all.

I'm liking Beeboy for town and having a growing scumlean on Aristo.

I was gonna go back and quote that post, but you did it for me.
You say "avoid being suspected," I wrote "trying to blend in."
Did I misinterpret what you meant?
If so, enlighten me.

[Something_Smart]

Beeboy do you think I knew the difference between slip and slip up but purposely confused them?
I guess now Viva is pushing Shinobi because he did a dumb thing and tried to cover it up in a scummy way. But I still don't like the way he is doing it.

[Masquerade]

For everyone who missed my explanation of my scumread on Shinobi please reread here:

It's not the way he entered but how he dealt with the questions that he got about it. To me it seems more like he wanted to look useful with his questions, rather than reaction testing. Trying to look town by getting us out ofo RVS asap. When he got called out on that his responses were awkward imo.

Avoid being suspected by looking useful getting us out of RVS quickly. I'm saying Shinobi wanted to gain some towncred trying to launch us out of RVS. When he got questioned about them instead of backed up, he panicked and got awkward.

I sometimes choose my words a little poorly, but what I was saying is that by gaining towncred of getting us out of RVS he would have (most likely) avoided suspicion at least for this phase.

[beeboy]

Beeboy do you think I knew the difference between slip and slip up but purposely confused them?

I never said that what i said was even if you disagree with what a slip up was you should have realized it wasn't a scum intent when Viva said what he thinks a slip up is.
Your last 3 posts have been you saying I thought something I didn't think.

[Viva La Gloria]

For everyone who missed my explanation of my scumread on Shinobi please reread here:

It's not the way he entered but how he dealt with the questions that he got about it. To me it seems more like he wanted to look useful with his questions, rather than reaction testing. Trying to look town by getting us out ofo RVS asap. When he got called out on that his responses were awkward imo.

Avoid being suspected by looking useful getting us out of RVS quickly. I'm saying Shinobi wanted to gain some towncred trying to launch us out of RVS. When he got questioned about them instead of backed up, he panicked and got awkward.

I sometimes choose my words a little poorly, but what I was saying is that by gaining towncred of getting us out of RVS he would have (most likely) avoided suspicion at least for this phase.

I still do agree and I think that you're probably town and Shinobi scum, but I feel like Shinobi can be left alive for a while because he's actively participating in scumhunting.
My opinion is that correct play in multiball is to go for the players who are both likely to be scum and unlikely to be cross killed; Shinobi doesn't exactly fit what I'm looking for in a day 1 lynch.
I think Cobalting needs to be forced to explain their reads lists right now.

[beeboy]

My opinion is that correct play in multiball is to go for the players who are both likely to be scum and unlikely to be cross killed;

My opinion is that we should keep what we are looking for to ourselves so people don't try and avoid doing it.

[beeboy]

I think Cobalting needs to be forced to explain their reads lists right now.

Let's be honest that was definitely a reactions list.

[beeboy]

Avoid being suspected by looking useful getting us out of RVS quickly. I'm saying Shinobi wanted to gain some towncred trying to launch us out of RVS. When he got questioned about them instead of backed up, he panicked and got awkward.

The thing people are waiting for are actual quotes to support this claim

[texcat]

Droog replaces Lilac. Thank you, Droog!

[droog]

beeboy!

[Something_Smart]

Hi droog

[droog]

Awkward and bizarre behaviour is scum indicative beca

use you're uncomfortable playing scum and make weird plays trying too hard to look like you're scumhunting in pursuit of trying to look towny.
I have context; I've read a bunch of your games' RVSes. This is not normal at all.

irony

[droog]

I can understand trying to get out of RVS early, but that wasn't what he was doing.

i actually think thats exactly
what he was doing
why do you think differencly/

[droog]

Ohey, Something Smart said what I was trying to articulate!
I like this guy!

im not sure about ssmart
but this feels townie to me

[droog]

Viva, why are you townreading Something Smart?

never mind

[Something_Smart]

I can understand trying to get out of RVS early, but that wasn't what he was doing.

i actually think thats exactly
what he was doing
why do you think differencly/

'Cause right after criticizing everyone's RVS he placed another RVS vote.

[droog]

ou colossally slipped up on page 1

[droog]

Hi droog

yo

[droog]

I can understand trying to get out of RVS early, but that wasn't what he was doing.

i actually think thats exactly
what he was doing
why do you think differencly/

'Cause right after criticizing everyone's RVS he placed another RVS vote.

that sounds like rvs trolling tbh

[droog]

im going to say osmething weird

i think the easiest way to find town
is not to look at whose hunting for scum
because everyone is

instead town is trying to project
a towny vibe
scum dont want to kill town
they want to kill each other

based on the last 3 pages
i think beeboy is projecting as town
without being too caught up in
sorting everyone out by the first 5 pages

beeboy is my townread atm

[beeboy]

beeboy!

I was so bad when we last played together! Good times.

[Viva La Gloria]

I think Cobalting needs to be forced to explain their reads lists right now.

Let's be honest that was definitely a reactions list.

I don't understand what this means.

[beeboy]

I don't understand what this means.

They weren't legit reads he was trying to get reactions out of people o.o Unless they where legit reads then Cobalting can feel free to explain them

[Viva La Gloria]

Sure, maybe, but I want explanation because it feels like she just threw scumreads on the people under the most pressure and called it a day.