Micro 580: Shortnight Mafia [GAME OVER]

[RadiantCowbells]

lol.
because you assumed that LG would flip town when you were scumreading him.
right.

[Chenoan]

No matter what I say you're going to find a way to twist it and misrepresent it, aren't you?

[Maestro]

This is my username

will be replaced in (expired on 2016-03-04 21:11:00).

[This is my username]

Is it too late for me to not be replaced?

[Maestro]

Go ahead.

[RadiantCowbells]

No matter what I say you're going to find a way to twist it and misrepresent it, aren't you?

I have twisted and misrepresented nothing.

you are blatantly lying about what you've said where TIMU can go back and look at it whenever he wants.

good day sir.

[Chenoan]

Here's what's going on:
1) You say I'm lying
2) I say I'm not
3) You say I'm lying about not lying
4) repeat until TiMU hammers.

[This is my username]

You know I'm stalling this for too long and you guys are, in fact, doing the same things over and over so:
VOTE: Chenoan

[Maestro]

Votecount 2.FINAL

RadiantCowbells -

1 / 2

- Chenoan
Chenoan -

2 / 2

- RadiantCowbells, This is my username

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LYNCH

With

[3]

alive it takes

[2]

to Lynch.

In this specific setup, "No Lynch" is not an option.

Chenoan has been lynched!
He was a

Vanilla Townie

RadiantCowbells

&

xRECKONERx

win!

Micro 580: Shortnight Mafia

Spoiler: GAME SETUP

By playerlist

:

RadiantCowbells -

Mafia Goon

Ranger -

Vanilla Townie

lovelygiant -

Vanilla Townie

xRECKONERx -

Mafia Goon

Chenoan -

Vanilla Townie

This is my username -

Vanilla Townie

By faction

:

Mafia Goon

- RadiantCowbells

Mafia Goon

- xRECKONERx

Vanilla Townie

- Ranger

Vanilla Townie

- lovelygiant

Vanilla Townie

- Chenoan

Vanilla Townie

- This is my username

Spoiler: GAME SUMMARY

DAY 1 LYNCH / ACTIONS

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Group 2

lynches

Ranger, a

Vanilla Townie

(@L-0: xRECKONERx, Ranger)

Group 1

lynches

lovelygiant, a

Vanilla Townie

(@L-0: Chenoan, lovelygiant)

TWILIGHT / NIGHT 1 ACTIONS

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lovelygiant & Ranger

vengekill

xRECKONERx, a

Mafia Goon

DAY 2 LYNCH / ACTIONS

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Town

lynches

Chenoan, a

Vanilla Townie

(@L-0: RadiantCowbells, This is my username)

Spoiler: MOD NOTES

Inactivity definitely soured this game - lookin' at you for Day 2, TIMU. RC gets mad props for solidifying an almost-universal Townread and following through on this win. I'm pretty sure this setup is a bit Scum-sided, but I think Town lethargy played right into their hands here. RC and Reck were smart to kindof-bus one of their own and work more on ensuring the other one could withstand the next day's lynch. It seems like the way to go rather than hoping both Scum get universally Townread, for instance. The 1-Scum-1-Town vengekill is only super useful, IMO, if Scum have been distancing amazingly well or if the groups have otherwise been focusing on themselves. Ranger was too much into searching out the politics between groups to have been fooled by something like that, and even though she self-hammered (which I think was a bad move, objectively) she was probably what held the Town of both groups together. lovelygiant following suit with a self-hammer was an...interesting move ( ) but it was probably the correct one just to speed things along, and make sure that Town got the vengekill they needed on Reck after Ranger's self-hammer.

[This is my username]

oh

Good game, and props to RadiantCowbells for fooling pretty much everyone.

[lovelygiant]

...

Good fucking game, RC. I look forward to playing with you in the future.

[Chenoan]

-yawn- I told you guys. I still don't get where the RC townread came from tbh.

[Ranger]

I still think this game is deceptively town-sided in spite of the loss.
RC played well.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sowwy wanger.

There wasn't a dead thread right?

[Ranger]

There was, actually.

[BBmolla]

I still think this game is deceptively town-sided in spite of the loss.
RC played well.

Your argument was "I can break this game because we have mislynches and I have townreads"

I don't think it's townsided.

[RadiantCowbells]

/shrug

this game requires 1 of the 2 scum to be the most towny in their group of 3.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'd say it does lean towards town moer than scum tbh but not by much.

[Ranger]

Your argument was "I can break this game because we have mislynches and I have townreads"
I don't think it's townsided.

I did my research. Expected EV for this game is 44% town wins by random lynching.

The problem is, we don't randomly lynch.

In a normal 3p lylo, you need two players that are clearly town to win: they need to have correctly identified the other as town, and then lynch the scum together.
In this setup, you only need one player that is clearly town on each side to win. If you get 2/6 players clearly town (one on each side), then the town will not lose.

The only way scum can win is if they get one of their two members to be that towniest player in the group of 3, which Radiant did.

So instead of scumhunting this game, it's easier to win by townhunting.

[BBmolla]

"If scum look town they break the game"

[Ranger]

Other way around: "Unless scum look town, game's broken".
But not just town. Unless scum look like the towniest of town, the town will win this setup.

[BBmolla]

That's how you win at mafia dude

like every single game scum needs to end up being one of the last few players alive

And by that logic all nightless games are broken

[Maestro]

Reck: you ok with the Scum PT being released...? RC has given me the go-ahead.

RE - the dead PT: I'm actually not 100% comfortable with releasing it because it contained irrelevant RL / off-site information about a player. The whole PT wasn't very interesting or relevant to the game. I posted a choice gif about my excitement for Day 2 (I felt very differently by the end) and then the discussion went elsewhere. If you have any specific questions, or if you really want to take me to task on this, please PM me.

[xRECKONERx]

yeah idgaf

[Maestro]

SCUM PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=65339