In post 536, pistachi0n wrote:I think the whole thing with FA was likely a scum gambit. It's out of character, she's been very composed in every game I've played with her.
Postie is a sheep.
The Creature wagon was terrible.
VOTE: Frozen Angel
And what do you think of the LovelyGiant wagon?
In post 541, pistachi0n wrote:You're right, I wasn't paying enough attention. I see there are no cops and I feel stupid.
I still don't think FA surviving will clear her
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Who said that FA surviving would clear her?
And what is the point of 545? You seem pressured and nervous, whats up?
Imo 541 is a scum slip, I am getting a feeling that its coming from a scum who is planning not to kill you, and was trying to get Town PRs to focus on you.
If he didn't like the creature wagon, why didn't he vote for the LovelyGiant wagon (that would have put LovelyGiant at L-1) or atleast talk about it?
Lets get some votes here.
VOTE: pistachi0n
2) So pistachi0n was pressured and nervous wrt the two wagons, and she avoided mentioning about the LovelyGiant wagon, called Creature's wagon as terrible and voted for FA (who claimed Macho Tracker). I wanted to know why she is pressured and nervous wrt the wagons and why she didn't mention about the LovelyGiant wagon. This everyone knows by now.
3) But what I also wanted to do was check how many scums are there in the two major wagons.
4) My thinking before the unvote (525) was that LovelyGiant was at L-1 and if Lowell (or any player not on LovelyGiant's wagon for that matter) is scum with him, then they would most likely buss their buddy to end the day early and get town cred.
5) So I unvoted to see such a reaction (and still make sure that we don't end the day early).
In comes Mr. Lowell with his 530. Filled with bussing emotions and another mediocre reason to vote for LovelyGiant.
6) I knew that you guys would brush this aside because of my earlier theory on him, so I wanted to see if there are other buddies to LovelyGiant.
7) Just then FA unvotes <3 (533) Which is proof enough for me that she is town this game.
8) As soon as pistachi0n voted for FA after ignoring the LovelyGiant wagon (536). I was sure that we got a scum, but I wanted to build a case on her.
9) 571 was meant to get a reaction from scum pistachi0n and 671 + 672 is just that.
Reasons for why Pistachi0n is individually scum:
A) She comes into the game after a long while and votes for a claimed Town PR while ignoring two players who have been scummy (536).
B) She wants FA lynched because scums could leave her alive to screw with us, and wants a cop on her if she is not lynched (539). Not only is she trying to get rid of a info based Town PR, but is trying to get other info roles to target her instead.
C) She was pressured and nervous when Postie (who she has called a sheep in 536 questions her), and says that 'FA surviving would not clear her' when no one brought that topic up. Which implies that she is thinking that FA will not die in the night. How can she know that for sure?
I am sure there are lots of scummy people in the game that FA can track if her claim is true. Then in that case if she is town, she is more likely to be killed than not. Unless the scums have a role that can stop her from tracking. And it seems pistachi0n is aware of a scum role blocker, or wants to lynch FA instead because such a role doesn't exist with the scums. Eitherway she has more info and is nervous and pressured because of that. Otherwise why would you be pressured by a player who you think is a sheep?
D) After I pointed this out, instead of agreeing that she looked scummy and that she still thinks FA is scum (or votes for one of the major wagons). Which Imo a town pistachi0n would have done. She votes for me?
Like this is the height of scumminess!
E) If you check her ISO, you will see that she voted for BlueTrin in RVS, then voted me for a reason that was already answered in the game (121), then she supported n_n, asked about my meta, talked about n_n being replaced, and then comes back and votes for FA after saying that I don't have lurker paranoia. The Irony!
F) She has been actively lurking this game, and none of her posts have any original content or an assertive voice.
Thus pistachi0n is scum with either LovelyGiant or Creature or Both. Aka she is definitely scum.
@GWS: I don't know.. this is one compelling case you've got there. I'm not quite sure though of whether we should go down the pistachi0n lynch road first or finish what we started with lovelygiant before that.
In post 679, Almost50 wrote:@GWS: I don't know.. this is one compelling case you've got there. I'm not quite sure though of whether we should go down the pistachi0n lynch road first or finish what we started with lovelygiant before that.
I am actually fine with LovelyGiant lynch, I still think he is scummy. But that case is what I found out after my unvote.
Imo, why do we want to lynch a fairly active scummy player for a sure shot lurker scum? If its a toss up between the two, then I will take either because Impo LovelyGiant, Lowell and Pista are scum together and it doesn't matter who we lynch first.
But the reason I am thinking Pista is a better lynch over LovelyGiant right now is in the off chance the Pista was actually trying to protect Creature instead of LovelyGiant. She did call Creature's wagon as terrible, so Idk. We could still lynch LovelyGiant *shrugs*
I... don't know how to feel about your pista case, Gale. It's the most relevant you've seemed, but I'm cautious because its intentions could seem distractionary.
How is AH scummy exactly, FA? I have a feeling you mostly just don't like what they've had to say. Their inactivity isn't much worse than my own, and I'm unaware of other reasons to suspect them.
Gale, you lose your conviction in your latest post and start waffling. Who do you really want lynched here?
In post 683, lovelygiant wrote:
Gale, you lose your conviction in your latest post and start waffling. Who do you really want lynched here?
There is no loss in conviction, what are you talking about?
Pista, You or Lowell is the order of preference for me right now. I can see myself agreeing to a Creature lynch, but the lynch on you and Pista are much better imo.
It seems like you and Lowell are not happy with a lynch on Pista, whats up?
In post 648, lovelygiant wrote:And it's interesting that you subtly propose that they might be PRs lurking before you offer up that they might be scum lurking.
This was a good read. Thanks. Fast wagons kinda naturally make me uneasy for some reason but I'll try to get used to ignoring that feeling from now on.
In post 663, Antihero wrote:lowell is making uncharacteristically bad points
In post 683, lovelygiant wrote:
Gale, you lose your conviction in your latest post and start waffling. Who do you really want lynched here?
There is no loss in conviction, what are you talking about?
I can't speak for lg, but the problem with that post, IMO, was that it read like
"I have no preference when it comes to lynching lovelygiant or pistachi0n but we should lynch pista but I have no preference! Like really it doesn't matter to me! (P.S. Pista is the better lynch.) (P.P.S. Not that I care.)"
