In post 1180, Drunken Pirates wrote:Why ABR is not to be trusted
1. ABR has been discrediting our hydra since the thread opened and has consistently done so without provocation.
Starting from his third post in RVS, ABR has picked a fight with our hydra. In post
35, he basically says a big so what to me being particularly skilled over the past year. His original vote is particularly nitpicky when I told Drixx I would have a recommendation later. He acts like I am ignoring him when I didn't answer within 6 minutes.
ABR's response to DS is equally brash and rude in
91. DS says it is a mistake to have me reveal my plans early. ABR gets in his face stating that DS has no right to be that forceful in telling ABR that was a bad idea. This exchange set the tone for the rest of the game. ABR wanted to know exactly what I wanted to do the opposite.
His next several posts are all about how much he hates Pirate Mollie and to have me talk to him. It struck me as odd but I wanted to avoid the drama. In 363 Klingoncelt observes this behavior and asks how it is town. Keep this in mind later. ABR's response is one of denial and dismissal.
In post
520, ABR tells me to go talk to someone else when I try to be civil and discuss reads with him. ABR didn't proxy his thinking to someone else. This started to send a clear message to me that ABR felt he was beneath me or that he could not support his read with facts.
In 539 and 541, he continues attacking Drixx who knows my play style a lot, stating that he'll never be MC again.
In 556, ABR says we cannot work together because he won't do what I want and I won't do what he wants.
In 562, ABR tells AA9 to not be a sheep to me for once in my life. Despite this meta being flat out wrong, it serves to discredit AA9's vote when ABR hasn't put an original thought in the thread that wasn't vitriol.
In 566 and 565, ABR says I should be voteless and ignored. He's selectively choosing to attack me bc I am much easier to discredit than Pirate Mollie.
581, ABR says he wants Drixx to go to Wakata because it's the sole region I do not want.
582, ABR says it's ok for him to insult my scumhunting skills because he knows me. Hint: Not true. The fact he demeans DS here is just ridiculous. It implies there's one set of rules for ABR and another set for DS because he hasn't played with me. While DS's approach to me is nothing short of nonsensical, ABR is not in some special class where this behavior is cool.
In 802 and 804, he attempts to lynch RaL solely for sheeping us.
In 969, ABR starts pushing MOONLOGIC that I want Ghost town for myself despite being very explicit that I don't want anyone going to a ghost town day 1 because of the lack of Ghosts.
In 1028, ABR orders me to contain Mollie when she criticizes him and takes umbrage at being insulted despite Mollie not insulting him as a player. ABR has done constant undermining here.
In 1040, he says that our hydra will attack anyone who supports ABR despite us being clear we want Fluminator or Max.
In 1076 and 1077 and 1084, he continues to try and paint himself as the victim of an over aggressive Mollie when she did nothing but criticize his play.
2. He is hard defending slots without giving any articulable reason.
1. Fluminator
In 520, ABR refuses to state a position on Fluminator despite lack of content.
In 536, he says Fluminator needs to comment on current events to get a read.
562-567, ABR is defending Flum by yelling there's no reason to scumread Fluminator and discrediting anyone who jumps on. The level of passion does not make sense for a null read.
In 687, ABR says Fluminator has done jackshit.
In 802, ABR says Fluminator is a terrible vote and votes Rylai despite seeing something town.
In 804, ABR says Rylai must die for Sheeping Titus.
In 811, ABR says that we must scumhunt outside of Fluminator and Max despite ABR only insulting Drixx, myself, RaL and AA9 for the most part.
In 818, ABR uses a burden of proficiency argument to state we should come up with someone better.
In 859, ABR says there is no good reason to vote for Fulminator. He has deliberately ignored 683 at this point.
In 1038, he calls the hammers thing a joke.
In 1081, ABR says he has put forth reasons for Flum town. I just spent three hours with his ISO. That is a lie.
In 1086, he repeats that hammers was a joke that makes Fluminator lynchbait. This is the second time ABR says joke when 676 does not look like a joke.
In 1093, ABR has proof Flum's claim isn't a scumclaim. (Why didn't he say this sooner if accurate?).
In 1097, ABR says Fluminator is unlikely to claim unprompted as scum. Fluminator is under pressure and premature claiming under pressure something that does not provide benefits to town. He says we can just not let Fluminator hammer? How realistic is that though?
In 1106, he says the hammerrer getting abilities has been town.
He never reconsiders his Fluminator read when Fluminator wasn't "joking". He's not reconsidering based on alignment. He's thinking based on objective.
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3. He's picking on players that will provoke and based on results he doesn't want happening in the thread.
RaL
He votes RaL after vaguely stating he didn't like their posts in post
500. He's riding on popular sentiment that the hydra can be taken advantage of due to language issues. Lowkey had the feels and ABR is like me too. Wicked jester posts a case that attempts to punish FA for realizing she wants to block with her townreads but verify they are town. This gets picked up like hot potatoes despite the wagon on Fluminator with actual scummy behavior not taking point. He buddies CoolDog in post
530 by thanking him for CoolDog's circular logic to push the slot. When Drixx wants to scumhunt in his own way, ABR threatens him with scumreads unless he goes along in 548. In 584, aa9 asks ABR for reasons on Rylai. Rather than address her reasons, he insults her stating she's in a deep sleep. In 644, ABR puffs up the wagon promising future voters and saying the wagon is not reflective of the game state. In 653, ABR just said a post was pingining with nothing more. In 662, he says he cannot be seduced into unvoting her. In 687, he refuses to explain the case to Fluminator who has done "jackshit". In 692, he demands Lowkey vote solely because Lowkey expressed a prior suspicion. In 697, he says that RaL has received a scum confirmation or some such nonsense. 706 is more hot air from ABR. 726, ABR's first attempt at justification fails. RaL made a general point and ABR tries to say it wasn't true in a specific game. 729, ABR repeats the slot lied and tells her "not to make it personal" despite the many attacks on me. In 733 and 734, he rolefishes Shiro. In 745, suddenly ABR townreads her when she says she has information about characters. RaL has something he wants, instant townread. Forget the lie he posted, suddenly everything feels town. Then in 802, he chainsaws on Flum's behalf. In 807, he fishes Rylai again for the confirmed townies. In 814, he says the information might be lost forever trying to scare Rylai into giving information to scum. In 820, he does this again.
2. Klingoncelt
After RaL, he immediately jumps to Klingoncelt. I told him specifically that a push on Klingon would result in an explosion and Klingon had already pushed him as scum. Scum Klingon rarely comes out swinging. I had a town lean on Klingon for that reason. He's OMGUSING people with emotional play styles. In 834, ABR says Klingon is trying to fit in and fail. Klingon's ISO is largely hostile to ABR and contains next to no frivolity. 878, he says to DS that he may him if I don't follow him on Klingon. Blatant threat given I know Klingon.
3. Drixx
While ABR hasn't voted Drixx, he's attacked the slot ever since he knew Drixx could read me. In 825, he mC votes Drixx despite having expressed Zero positive opinion of the slot. In 917, he's pushing them in the party.
4. AA9
aBR objects to a townread here. Guess what AA9 suspected Flum and voted it.
5. Skybird
He pushes Skybird as a town "consensus" lynch (1038) he then tries to get her mc vote and lies about pushing her (1112). He offers her a slot with Rylai Drixx and CoolDog to get her MC vote. This is bribery of a scumread.
6. Diamond Sentinel
He insults DS in many places. The best example is in 821, where he says DS is a disgrace to mafia in 821. Then he says in 827 that he agrees with DS. In 1066, ABR says DS isn't remotely weak despite calling him a disgrace to the game in 821.
7. Cool Cucumbers
ABR nominates them for their party despite having zero interaction with the slot in 917. Fluminator and CC have also defended each other early. Cc defended the Fluminator wagon and Fluminator defended Cerb's easy read list to Mollie. This looks like blanket rewarding or sticking scum in the hood so ABR cannot be dethroned by town.
In 982, he doesn't call CC out on his hedge on my slot. He says we're not scummy but that doesn't make us town.
