Gistou (Over!)

[Cane + Able]

/confirm

[Cane + Able]

I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
~Bee

I guess that's fair enough.

Titus your a weird player. I appreciate your town read though we need to talk about how you did this if its ok with you. I'm really interested to know.

@bins your not saying anything that we wanna discuss it with you, catch up so we can talk

~Ice

Frozen cannot fake that type of emotion as scum. Never seen it. People thought she did in NY 191 but nope.

You obvtowned her prior to that post.

Why?

[Cane + Able]

I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
~Bee

I guess that's fair enough.

Titus your a weird player. I appreciate your town read though we need to talk about how you did this if its ok with you. I'm really interested to know.

@bins your not saying anything that we wanna discuss it with you, catch up so we can talk

~Ice

Frozen cannot fake that type of emotion as scum. Never seen it. People thought she did in NY 191 but nope.

You obvtowned her prior to that post.

Why?

^scum

Get the fuck outta here.

Non-human, aligned with humans, and hating non-humans...

I know who Molla is.

[Cane + Able]

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Or cult?

[Cane + Able]

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Or cult?

^once again scum

No, what's scummy is writing off a legit possibility.

Are you trying to piss me off with Robb-like idiocy, bro?

[Cane + Able]

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Well my win condition indicates that i'm town so i doubt this is necessarily the case.

Are you referring to the having a night kill part, or winning with a faction part?

^scum

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Or cult?

^once again scum

No, what's scummy is writing off a legit possibility.

Are you trying to piss me off with Robb-like idiocy, bro?

^scum

Okay pumrir, explain to me how cult isn't a possibility.

While you're at it, explain why me poking at a logical hole makes me scum.

[Cane + Able]

Housey/Wakey poo, are you scum?

Pedit let me post.

Of course we are.

You know I'm a lightning rod for scumreads over silly shit.

[Cane + Able]

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Well my win condition indicates that i'm town so i doubt this is necessarily the case.

Are you referring to the having a night kill part, or winning with a faction part?

^scum

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Or cult?

^once again scum

No, what's scummy is writing off a legit possibility.

Are you trying to piss me off with Robb-like idiocy, bro?

^scum

Okay pumrir, explain to me how cult isn't a possibility.

While you're at it, explain why me poking at a logical hole makes me scum.

i just didn't like your tone in the last post

I was reminding Molla who I was in the last post.

[Cane + Able]

Housey/Wakey poo, are you scum?

Pedit let me post.

Of course we are.

You know I'm a lightning rod for scumreads over silly shit.

But you said something untrue to me. That makes me sad. I don't wanna be angry sat.

Where?

[Cane + Able]

I was reminding Molla who I was in the last post.

am i supposed to care

Was I supposed to care whether you care when I said it?

[Cane + Able]

So basically i win with town but im not explictly town then?
The win con looked like normal town win con to me.

there's no functional difference between being town and winning with the town

Im confused by what BBMolla's going on about.

There is nothing that states winning with humans = town.

1) I need to eliminate all threats: check
2) I don't know who shares my wincon: check
3)

Loosely speaking, there is at least one town faction. They win if all threats to them are eliminated.

All of these check in my win condition, they dont on yours?

At least one town faction means the possibility of multiball town, does it not?

[Cane + Able]

Actually or not?
I dont even know.
I don't even know how would another town faction's role PM even be, i interpreted the post that among all factions there would be 1 town, but now that you meantioned there could be more than 1 town? this is giving me a headache.

That's exactly how I read it.

I think humans comprise one town faction, and there is a non-human town faction that is allied with the human town.

The op spells out the possibility of multiball town, and

Robb

Molla's claim sets up the framework for my theory.

[Cane + Able]

Housey/Wakey poo, are you scum?

Pedit let me post.

Of course we are.

You know I'm a lightning rod for scumreads over silly shit.

But you said something untrue to me. That makes me sad. I don't wanna be angry sat.

Where?

When you said Frozen wasn't emotional where I townread them

That's not what I said, and I don't understand why you think that.

I said you townread them prior to the post you quoted, which seemed odd to me that you used a later post to justify the read.

[Cane + Able]

Sigh...

[Cane + Able]

I want to talk about percentages again.

whyyyyy
Well percentages of someone being scum due to some weird math is fine, i just dont get the benefit of discussing chances of being culted, when the only ones interested in that would be the cult recruiters.

@Heartless, Yeah, not really. If Frozen is scum, I don't get the town feels. I got the feels. I am pretty good at reading Frozen. I'm pretty sure they are town. Sorry that you cannot read them as well or are scum. I am Madam Grumpy with a cold and they are obvtown.

Here's where you get all hyper about Frozen being town...

I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
~Bee

I guess that's fair enough.

Titus your a weird player. I appreciate your town read though we need to talk about how you did this if its ok with you. I'm really interested to know.

@bins your not saying anything that we wanna discuss it with you, catch up so we can talk

~Ice

Frozen cannot fake that type of emotion as scum. Never seen it. People thought she did in NY 191 but nope.

Then you justify it in this later post, instead of...

That's all you can find because you're scum and incapable of reading, all you can do is see.

Yes, I am siriously threatening you with my vote.

My normal response to this kind of shitty behaviors is to say "Fuck off"

I won't respond to it anyway cuase I'm done getting force replaced for people like you corning me and making me toxic.

so ....

Hi town. (Hugs)

This one.

---

I'm not calling you scum for it. NOW, I can see your point. But at a skim, it doesn't read as genuine.

It's easier for me to understand reasoning for town when the content being used to explain that read was made prior to the read itself.

[Cane + Able]

It's easier for me to understand reasoning for town when the content being used to explain that read was made prior to the read itself.

This is a good point, though I imagine in a game this size and pace it will be difficult to keep new material from creeping in.

I mean, it's fine for new stuff to be presented to further a case... but there should be a clear and believable pre-read foundation.

[Cane + Able]

I want to talk about percentages again.

whyyyyy
Well percentages of someone being scum due to some weird math is fine, i just dont get the benefit of discussing chances of being culted, when the only ones interested in that would be the cult recruiters.

@Heartless, Yeah, not really. If Frozen is scum, I don't get the town feels. I got the feels. I am pretty good at reading Frozen. I'm pretty sure they are town. Sorry that you cannot read them as well or are scum. I am Madam Grumpy with a cold and they are obvtown.

Here's where you get all hyper about Frozen being town...

I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
~Bee

I guess that's fair enough.

Titus your a weird player. I appreciate your town read though we need to talk about how you did this if its ok with you. I'm really interested to know.

@bins your not saying anything that we wanna discuss it with you, catch up so we can talk

~Ice

Frozen cannot fake that type of emotion as scum. Never seen it. People thought she did in NY 191 but nope.

Then you justify it in this later post, instead of...

That's all you can find because you're scum and incapable of reading, all you can do is see.

Yes, I am siriously threatening you with my vote.

My normal response to this kind of shitty behaviors is to say "Fuck off"

I won't respond to it anyway cuase I'm done getting force replaced for people like you corning me and making me toxic.

so ....

Hi town. (Hugs)

This one.

---

I'm not calling you scum for it. NOW, I can see your point. But at a skim, it doesn't read as genuine.

It's easier for me to understand reasoning for town when the content being used to explain that read was made prior to the read itself.

VOTE: House

First, I can barely breathe with this cold. I ain't getting hyper about shit.

Second, you come across as more of a whiner here tat there's nothing to pick at so you complain that I didn't say so immediately.

Again, that's not what I said at all.

I said it struck me odd that you used a post made after the fact to explain your read instead of referencing the post your read was based on.

At a skim (y'know, without going to the hassle of reading back), it looks like you grasped for a reason to townread her after being called on it.

My complaint about you is not over function, but form. Help me read you easier by referring to the source of your reads in your explanation of those reads.

[Cane + Able]

just got confused cause i was

anyways titus, the only scum u got in that game iirc was davsto and mayb nero

Nah. Not worth the energy.

Titus gets something stuck in her head and there is no reasoning with her.

[Cane + Able]

@SS/FA hydra, Check page 3 of my ISO there.

@House, That's blatantly untrue. I didn't do what you're claiming I did. Period. You're lying.

Stop calling me a fucking liar.

That's all you can find because you're scum and incapable of reading, all you can do is see.

Yes, I am siriously threatening you with my vote.

My normal response to this kind of shitty behaviors is to say "Fuck off"

I won't respond to it anyway cuase I'm done getting force replaced for people like you corning me and making me toxic.

so ....

Hi town. (Hugs)

Townread in your first post. I'm not criticizing you for not putting your reasoning here. I never have. Shut up about that false assumption.

I want to talk about percentages again.

whyyyyy
Well percentages of someone being scum due to some weird math is fine, i just dont get the benefit of discussing chances of being culted, when the only ones interested in that would be the cult recruiters.

@Heartless, Yeah, not really. If Frozen is scum, I don't get the town feels. I got the feels. I am pretty good at reading Frozen. I'm pretty sure they are town. Sorry that you cannot read them as well or are scum. I am Madam Grumpy with a cold and they are obvtown.

Then you get hyper about your townread on Frozen. Town. Town. Town.

I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
~Bee

I guess that's fair enough.

Titus your a weird player. I appreciate your town read though we need to talk about how you did this if its ok with you. I'm really interested to know.

@bins your not saying anything that we wanna discuss it with you, catch up so we can talk

~Ice

Frozen cannot fake that type of emotion as scum. Never seen it. People thought she did in NY 191 but nope.

When asked about your townread on Frozen, you quoted a post that was nearly 200 posts OLDER than your TOWNREAD to justify that read instead of simply QUOTING POST 74!

Hence why, at a glance and without digging into your fucking ISO, your read looks fake. I dropped the matter after I DID read back over your ISO, but you're stuck in this herp mode where you superglue your fingers into your ears, nail your eyelids shut and scream NA NA NA NA SCUM NA NA NA NA and it's really fucking annoying.

[Cane + Able]

How is there a post more than 200 posts prior to 74?

You quoted 270.

Your townread was on 74.

Do some math.

Don't even start the nitpicking shit.

You know what I meant.

Sorry folks... I gotta fix this problem. >.<

[Cane + Able]

That's not a nitpick. I quote posts I am replying to.

Townread in 74.
270 asks why.
I reply back in 273.

Quoting 270 is not ex post facto rationale. It's just a conversation.

Your post 263 was talking about "the town feels"... then you quoted 270 to illustrate "the town feels", which was after 263.

THAT is what struck me as off.

[Cane + Able]

I want to talk about percentages again.

whyyyyy
Well percentages of someone being scum due to some weird math is fine, i just dont get the benefit of discussing chances of being culted, when the only ones interested in that would be the cult recruiters.

@Heartless, Yeah, not really.

If Frozen is scum, I don't get the town feels. I got the feels.

I am pretty good at reading Frozen. I'm pretty sure they are town. Sorry that you cannot read them as well or are scum. I am Madam Grumpy with a cold and they are obvtown.

If you wanted us to know you got some sort of feels from another post, perhaps you should have quoted it. Because the only other MENTION of feels is...

I haven't disliked anything you have done Frozen but I am not confident in my ability to read you because I have seen you play as scum I think 4 time or some large number and I town read you every time so I think I need to figure out a different method to read you.
~Bee

I guess that's fair enough.

Titus your a weird player. I appreciate your town read though we need to talk about how you did this if its ok with you. I'm really interested to know.

@bins your not saying anything that we wanna discuss it with you, catch up so we can talk

~Ice

Frozen cannot fake that type of emotion as scum. Never seen it. People thought she did in NY 191 but nope.

... which reads like a justification of your statement in 263 to anyone that isn't thoroughly engrossed in committing every single post you make to memory.

[Cane + Able]

Butting in to say this seems cut and dry. And after reading previous interactions, it's like a mountain was made out of a molehill and that's squarely on you House.

So? Nothing new from me. Titus is the one that escalated. I made my opinion that it was NAI known long ago, but I will not be called a liar simply because I misread.

Fuck that.

[Cane + Able]

74 quoted 72 in which Frozen showed some emotion.
273 talks about emotion.
Seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't understand why it's a big deal...
Even 263 still fits in, if nothing changed in "the feels" in those ~190 posts since 74.

Now whether that little bit is worth a town read, is a completely different matter. I certainly wouldn't call someone town that easily... but I'm not liking the Cane+Able approach of casting it as a retroactive explanation.

Fucking... you too?

My entire POINT was that I thought she should have USED 74 IN THE FIRST FUCKING PLACE, you illiterate clown.

[Cane + Able]

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

Right. So explain to me the scum motivation in admitting that I misread something, pointing out how I misread it, then getting frustrated at the idiots that decided that accuracy = alignment indicative.

[Cane + Able]

Why are you immediately assuming they're talking about you?

It's Kuroi.

He is.

[Cane + Able]

Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?

[Cane + Able]

Ego~

I've never understood why people do this when there are links to subscribe and bookmark threads at the bottom of the page.

[Cane + Able]

What the guy in 515 said. ^

[Cane + Able]

Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?

I'm not sure I understand. In relation to what exactly?

With respect, you mentioned that Nosferatu doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.

I am reconsidering my read on them as I kinda said.

Does this mean you now think he's pointing out stuff that matters?

[Cane + Able]

Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?

I'm not sure I understand. In relation to what exactly?

With respect, you mentioned that Nosferatu doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.

I am reconsidering my read on them as I kinda said.

Does this mean you now think he's pointing out stuff that matters?

Unsure. I think it will be more telling with a few flips.

What I'm wanting to understand is how he's supposed to be pointing out stuff that really matters when it's not even Day 1 yet.

[Cane + Able]

@506, I am thinking you're defending and reading into what is not there. He said on a skim that doesn't look genuine. He sees my pont of view allegedly but then he continues to push as if I am scummy.

Wrong. I straight up said I'm not scumreading you for my own mistake. Duh.

I was pushing the point that it all could have been avoided in the first place if you had simply referenced the point you got the tread from rather than a later post.

Me splitting hairs is not alignment indicative. It's a personality trait. You know me well enough to know this.

[Cane + Able]

@506, I am thinking you're defending and reading into what is not there. He said on a skim that doesn't look genuine. He sees my pont of view allegedly but then he continues to push as if I am scummy.

Wrong. I straight up said I'm not scumreading you for my own mistake. Duh.

I was pushing the point that it all could have been avoided in the first place if you had simply referenced the post you got the read from rather than a later post.

Me splitting hairs is not alignment indicative. It's a personality trait. You know me well enough to know this.

EBWOP

[Cane + Able]

@LQ, Yeah well, that's life. Not going to rushwhen I feel uncomfortable. Doubly so with 3 town factions. Gtmy, you're town but I have like 5% confidence there.

Three?

That's pretty specific. Where did you get that information?

[Cane + Able]

@LQ, Yeah well, that's life. Not going to rushwhen I feel uncomfortable. Doubly so with 3 town factions. Gtmy, you're town but I have like 5% confidence there.

Three?

That's pretty specific. Where did you get that information?

The three human nations. If you were town, that'd be evident.

So, you're under the assumption the nations are seperate factions.

That's all you had to say. The barbed bullshit was unnecessary.

[Cane + Able]

Good evening everyone. LicketyQuickety, could you please point out what really does matter thus far?

I'm not sure I understand. In relation to what exactly?

With respect, you mentioned that Nosferatu doesn't seem to be actually solving the game, but pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter much.

I am reconsidering my read on them as I kinda said.

Does this mean you now think he's pointing out stuff that matters?

Unsure. I think it will be more telling with a few flips.

What I'm wanting to understand is how he's supposed to be pointing out stuff that really matters when it's not even Day 1 yet.

I primarily just care about getting reads at this point and am talking about them with Suz right now.

You made it sound like Nosferatu was only pointing out stuff that really doesn't matter, so I'm asking you for examples of things that really do matter.

[Cane + Able]

Me splitting hairs is not alignment indicative. It's a personality trait. You know me well enough to know this.

For the record I'm not currently scumreading the hair splitting. I question the emphasis not being placed on "having a read so early", as well as the early read itself on Titus's part, but not the hair splitting.

Dude, this is Titus.

She forms an opinion on a single post and God help anybody that tells her otherwise.

I gave up trying to argue with that long ago.

[Cane + Able]

@LQ, Yeah well, that's life. Not going to rushwhen I feel uncomfortable. Doubly so with 3 town factions. Gtmy, you're town but I have like 5% confidence there.

Three?

That's pretty specific. Where did you get that information?

The three human nations. If you were town, that'd be evident.

So, you're under the assumption the nations are seperate factions.

That's all you had to say. The barbed bullshit was unnecessary.

Oh, it was necessary.

did you read the flavor intro?

Do I ever?

[Cane + Able]

@cain and able - you did not answer. Please explicitly say whether you read the flavor.

Can't speak for Wake, but i didn't because I have no knowledge of or interest in Gintou.

I skimmed over shit I needed to read to make a decision on our night actions, but I didn't sit here and engross myself in the lore. The only time I really get into flavor is when I can identify with the flavor. This flavor is just... foreign.

[Cane + Able]

Personally I think that they should change the site so making your text bold should make it less visible and making text larger should actually make it smaller.

I feel like Cane + Able are just going to use bold text for the entire game as though it makes their opinions more bold, and that bothers me.

Tbh i thought House was using normal text and Wake bold text to differentiate the heads.

Yes but they could just sign like normal hydras.

Sorry, never learned ASL.

[Cane + Able]

Personally I think that they should change the site so making your text bold should make it less visible and making text larger should actually make it smaller.

I feel like Cane + Able are just going to use bold text for the entire game as though it makes their opinions more bold, and that bothers me.

Tbh i thought House was using normal text and Wake bold text to differentiate the heads.

Correct.

[Cane + Able]

Is it a slip? Nope, as there is a mystical way a human could plan night actions without it

Yeah, it's called not really being invested in those night actions because it doesn't really mean much imho.

I'm not going to lynch somebody simply because they're from this place or that place, this race or that race. It's all flavor crap.

I split hairs about shit that matters TO ME. I shouldn't have to be spelling this out to you.

/sigh

[Cane + Able]

Cane + Able chill out we didn't even start the game proper lol.

Albert

We're not the ones calling for rope.

[Cane + Able]

But Luna is our FRIEND.

???

Cane + Able's name bothers me because I keep expecting it to be Nero Cain, but he's in another hydra. They should probably have chosen a different name.

Tough titty.

1) Nero Cain is spelled quite differently.
2) Cane & Able is the title of a House episode.

[Cane + Able]

But Luna is our FRIEND.

???

Cane + Able's name bothers me because I keep expecting it to be Nero Cain, but he's in another hydra. They should probably have chosen a different name.

Tough titty.

1) Nero Cain is spelled quite differently.
2) Cane & Able is the title of a House episode.

It's obviously based off Cain & Abel though.

And thanks for forming further distracting associations with Kurio's avatar.

1) No, it's based off the fact he's crippled (cane) and fucking smart (able). Have you never watched the show?
2) Check join dates, bub. This account has had this avatar since d1.

[Cane + Able]

Whoever the person that said the game isn't even Day 1, could you please outline how and why these pre-game interactions are apparently unimportant?

It may as well be called Day 1 with the way interactions are going.

I don't like this post because you don't specifically address anyone.

Don't like it as in it's scummy?

Yes.

Do you think effort is AI?

Maybe a little, please explain the relevance of this question.

You didn't like that the post was general in nature. General posts typically require less effort than specific. So it implied that you think less effort -> scummy. I wanted to test that logic by asking if you indeed think that way.

That doesn't make sense at all...

I didn't like it because it was a vague comment.

Maybe it's because it was 3am when he made it.

[Cane + Able]

I wanted to vote C+A, but I don't feel that way anymore.
Wish I had a dayvig tho.

Why you wanna kill town, bro?

Got a case of teh scumz?

[Cane + Able]

The assumptions are real.
I don't wanna shoot you.

Yeah, I totally knew that.

Why did you assume I thought that?

It's d1... A vig shot is most likely gonna hit town.



.... (you're buying that, right?)

[Cane + Able]

What is with all these naked votes?

Clothes are for people.

And small dogs.

[Cane + Able]

I'm not feeling a d1 Heartless wagon, short of a direct confession.

Titus votes are acceptable. Expedience is a worthy wagon.

[Cane + Able]

I've got a bit of paranoia about Cakez b/c idk where he gets the idea he can read me, but he's more accurate than somebody that has played several games with me.

[Cane + Able]

We think we will go with a vote on rb for now.
VOTE: RB

This vote is placed for a twofold reason. The first is the constant on the percentages. Planning ahead and running the numbers pings me as scummy
The second is the general sheeping of opinions.

~Suz

p-edit, goodness gracious everyone is posting so fast.

This is terrible, percentages aren't AI

Not terrible. I have more meta on rb than everyone in this game combined.

rb doing the silly percentages is not what I know of his play as either alignment so pressuring that slot is what we are aiming for. I don't have a ton of meta on him within a game context, but I do know it is unlike him to do this.

~LQ

this post is all sorts of

Spoiler:

I agree, it IS a huge pile of crap.

[Cane + Able]

first thing that occured to me

I'm really happy that I'm in hydra with fire cuase If we were seprate slots I was scumreading him right now so hard more than anyone.

that makes me think there is a really wrong thing in my play that I need to fix. I'm intended to find that in this game.

~Ice

Amished hydra tell, yo.

Sorry, this white background is really unpleasant so I try to avoid using this account for reading, but I forget to swap back to post.

[Cane + Able]

user Control Panel >> Board preferences >> My board style (change to "mafBlack" if you prefer a darker background, or just pick one and see if you like it)

I'm not the only player on this account.

[Cane + Able]

Hey ABR, there's a whole thread over here.

I don't care. Bloodborne was devastating. I will let Errant and Nahdia take point.

You had good reads in that game.

Why would you lean on the crappy happenings in that game as an excuse to be lazy in this one when the two are nothing alike?

I was really hoping your slot was town, but this post is terribad.

[Cane + Able]

Idk Cakey, if Storm blade was scum ABR could have easily agreed with errant's read of me to fuel Titus' hard-on for my mislynch.

[Cane + Able]

ARE YOU FUCKING PROUD I KEPT THAT ALL TO ONE POST THAT WAS SO HARD FOR ME

No. It sucks.

I'd rather have ten smalls than a wall.

[Cane + Able]

This is mainly so that I express my paranoia of certain town reads I have before it comes up later and I flail around a bunch about how they are freaking the beejesus out of me.

This is overexplanatory and describing your own thought process unprompted is a scumtell.

The fuck?

Clarity is NEVER a bad thing.

Unless you're scum.

[Cane + Able]

Not Voting - 9 (Almost50, Cane + Able, Tim, RAM, Lady Lambdadelta, Skybird, Toogeloo, Franky, Luna Fox)

It would be helpful if you guys voted for someone.

Yeah, I get that.

I've posted my scumspects in the hydra pt this morning, but I'm waiting for Wake to weigh in (or vote).

[Cane + Able]

It's disturbing that you guys can read these posts and think Expe's scum and not deranged town. You guys ableist or something?

If he's town, he needs to lease a spot in the newbie queue because he just screams scum to me.

[Cane + Able]

I clearly can't english, excuse my sillyness

Only scum make mistakes.

VOTE: Luna Fox[/unvote]

Spoiler:

cwutididthar?

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[Cane + Able]

I'm most likely to vote on ppl out of PoE at this point.

Whoa, PoE in a 28 player in d1?
That's going to take a heap of explaining.

Because i currently dont feel any of the current wagons, I feel like we're missing something.

It's d1.

In a large.

That's a likelihood.

[Cane + Able]

The expedience wagon is promising

it is?

i'm kinda' missing whatever everyone else is seeing on that and tth didnt seem to catch anything there either

what are YOU seeing in tit?

Expe is unusually flaily, whereas as town his posts are compact and minimalistic, he is spending far too much time justifying himself and appealing to other players instead of scum hunting, I don't understsnd his Luna read and the way he is pushing it seems fake.

Expe, did you respond to this post?

What do you think of it?

Why didn't you ISO him?

[Cane + Able]

I'm most likely to vote on ppl out of PoE at this point.

Whoa, PoE in a 28 player in d1?
That's going to take a heap of explaining.

Because i currently dont feel any of the current wagons, I feel like we're missing something.

It's d1.

In a large.

That's a likelihood.

If it's a likelihood what was the point of dave's question.

PoE implies you have a number of townreads you are unwilling to vote.

D1.

In a large.

[Cane + Able]

The expedience wagon is promising

it is?

i'm kinda' missing whatever everyone else is seeing on that and tth didnt seem to catch anything there either

what are YOU seeing in tit?

Expe is unusually flaily, whereas as town his posts are compact and minimalistic, he is spending far too much time justifying himself and appealing to other players instead of scum hunting, I don't understsnd his Luna read and the way he is pushing it seems fake.

Expe, did you respond to this post?

What do you think of it?

Why didn't you ISO him?

This felt easier?

Waiting for a response that you could have gotten for yourself by skimming an ISO is easier?

[Cane + Able]

Not Voting - 9 (Almost50, Cane + Able, Tim, RAM, Lady Lambdadelta, Skybird, Toogeloo, Franky, Luna Fox)

It would be helpful if you guys voted for someone.

Yeah, I get that.

I've posted my scumspects in the hydra pt this morning, but I'm waiting for Wake to weigh in (or vote).

Looking forward to it. It feels like you've just sort of been milling around this game and that's a little bothersome to me.

Yeah. I do that a lot on d1 because everything is up in the air and I feel useless not having much to work with (unless something awesome happens like here, where I was going to be fairly useless and possibly downright counterproductive until I picked up on a blatant scumclaim)

On top of that, I have to take my partner's thoughts into account, because I don't want to act unilaterally and make him feel like I'm running the slot without him.

[Cane + Able]

{Franky, Toogeloo, Skybird, TWIE}

Unless we start seeing some activity out of these slots soonish, I could get behind voting in that group.

[Cane + Able]

{Franky, Toogeloo, Skybird, TWIE}

Unless we start seeing some activity out of these slots soonish, I could get behind voting in that group.

Clarification: These are not my scumreads. I have

four

three of those posted in the hydra PT.

These guys are just coasting the day away.

[Cane + Able]

Yeah, well, I prefaced it in the Signup Topic that I won't be very active in a high post game. I have a full time job and a family to support and spend time with. So, I can either not read and post random stuff to look active, or I can post once in a while with game related reads and responses after I've skimmed or read through as much as possible.

Yeah, well my beef is that you haven't done either.

[Cane + Able]

Yeah, well, I prefaced it in the Signup Topic that I won't be very active in a high post game. I have a full time job and a family to support and spend time with. So, I can either not read and post random stuff to look active, or I can post once in a while with game related reads and responses after I've skimmed or read through as much as possible.

Yeah, well my beef is that you haven't done either.

Maybe you should be a vegetarian.

[Cane + Able]

Alternatively you need to lease a spot in the newbie queue because you can't read people

So petty. So spiteful. So uninformed, considering you don't even have my reads.

Leave the petty and spiteful stuff to the pros.

Like me.

[Cane + Able]

Titus is just scum

grats on probably being town tho

/agree

[Cane + Able]

You're really bad at this not-hydra-slipping thing aren't you ^_^;;

Terrible.

I unsubscribed from my main, gonna see how that works out.

[Cane + Able]

This is mainly so that I express my paranoia of certain town reads I have before it comes up later and I flail around a bunch about how they are freaking the beejesus out of me.

This is overexplanatory and describing your own thought process unprompted is a scumtell.

The fuck?

Clarity is NEVER a bad thing.

Unless you're scum.

i believe expe is seizing on the idea of "nervous talking"

i dont think it applies here though, and i also think its waaaaay less of a thing in forum mafia than irl

Thank you. That makes sense.

[Cane + Able]

titus a50 is dying today w/ or w/o you

Nah.

D3 or so perhaps, but I ain't feeling it today.

[Cane + Able]

titus a50 is dying today w/ or w/o you

Nah.

D3 or so perhaps, but I ain't feeling it today.

Hedge hedge hedge

This should be who we lynch Heartless.

What kind of wine goes with confbias?

[Cane + Able]

What kind of wine goes with confbias?

House, what are you doing?

My bad.

Scum can't confbias.

Derp.

[Cane + Able]

It's like your forcing yourself to have any sort of reads, and that's concerning.

This really in the game?

Notrly.

[Cane + Able]

It's like your forcing yourself to have any sort of reads, and that's concerning.

This early in the game?

Notrly.

EBWOP

[Cane + Able]

It's like your forcing yourself to have any sort of reads, and that's concerning.

This early in the game?

Notrly.

EBWOP

Like.. if this was d2/3+, then string him up for a good awful reads list, yeah... But d1 reads are gonna be crap, period.

[Cane + Able]

It's like your forcing yourself to have any sort of reads, and that's concerning.

This early in the game?

Notrly.

EBWOP

Did you even read his reads list.

Yes.

The first one was crap.

The second one, he trolled the shit out of those scumreading him.

So?

[Cane + Able]

Actually, before I head to bed.

VOTE: Wayward Thinker

Their questioning and atrocious display thus far deserves this A LOT more than TWIE.

And it has

nothing

to do with Wayward being a larger wagon at the moment?

P. sure Kuroi made it the larger wagon.

[Cane + Able]

blocking each image you post using adblocker

shit, gotta get my ascii art generator out :///

You're making excellent progress towards my foes list.

[Cane + Able]

Actually, before I head to bed.

VOTE: Wayward Thinker

Their questioning and atrocious display thus far deserves this A LOT more than TWIE.

And it has

nothing

to do with Wayward being a larger wagon at the moment?

P. sure Kuroi made it the larger wagon.

Semantic language to defeat Heartless's point.

Kuroi was opportunistically voting a larger wagon to create momentum elsewhere and one that started his own train.

So?

I think I mentioned being the type to split hairs. Why act like this is news to you yet again?

[Cane + Able]

can see house hydra as scum though. so apeasing , not that agressive.

I'd rather wait for all the circle jerking to finish before bothering to get invested.

Especially when the other head is all concerned about getting killed.

I tried to explain that I never care about appearances as town and that if I start now it would make it more likely to get us lynched, not less... But meh.

[Cane + Able]

I townread Stormblade because of Nahdia, but ABR and Errant's lack of participation makes me wonder.

What if they've decided that Nahdia's doing such a great job they'll just stay out of her way for now? As one of the most townread slots right now their input seems pretty important to the game but they're both opting to take a backseat. I don't like it.

This.

So much this.

[Cane + Able]

Oh... Wake meant...

Never mind.

[Cane + Able]

I don't get the townreads on Titus.

If this was town!Titus, she's be vote parked on me, yelling and screaming at people to vote me and refuse to compromise.

But then, I also think she'd have responded to my reach out, which she promptly ignored.

She's scum hunting? Of course she is. It's quite probably multiball

Doesn't change the fact she's scum.

Why does nobody else see that?

I can't see Town!Titus compromising once she has her sights set on scum. CERTAINLY not this far from deadline, at any rate.

Where is town!tunnel!Titus?

[Cane + Able]

VOTE: Titus

[Cane + Able]

yeah

Not the part about your read on nahdia the next part

I don't like C+A accepting it like that

which head posted that case againt titus?

~Ice

I accepted it because I don't like the flippant townreads Nahdia is earning for the hydra. They're lazysauce.

And I made the case on Titus. Be smart and support it with your vote.

[Cane + Able]

I meant that both Errant + ABR have just now declared their intent to wait until later. I didn't mean that they decided pre/early-game to get out of her way, I meant that I don't like how 2/3 of Stormblade's heads are taking a backseat role when their slot is being townread so heavily.

This is, and always will be, the issue with all Hydras, not just isolated to this particular case.

Why are you softing for SB?

Do you think they require your help?

I assure you, Nahdia is capable of fending for herself, as is ABR.

Idk errant.

[Cane + Able]

@IceFire

Oh okay you don't like C+A's acceptance of my thought. Fair enough. I don't know what to think because he's null-read for me. Are you scumreading C+A?

I don't like that C+A was invalidating the value of early game before. Like he just accepts A50's shitty read list because, "it's early so it's expected". Game has to get somewhere somehow, and you can't get out of early-game unless people start to take early-game seriously. I don't see it as a scumtell because the slot is still pushing reads and poking around for information, but I don't townread it either.

Early game is shit for information.

That is not a subjective statement. It is not open to interpretation or varying perspectives. It is fact.

So no, I'm not going to get all up in somebody's shit because they have shit reads, nor should anybody else unless they're certain they have the scum team pegged.

Let he who is without sin tie the first noose, yo.

[Cane + Able]

I actually would be fine with a SB lynch as it stands right now, mainly because I don't feel this is town ABR.

We're cool, then.

My bad for misunderstanding, I guess?

[Cane + Able]

What heat?

[Cane + Able]

@IceFire

Oh okay you don't like C+A's acceptance of my thought. Fair enough. I don't know what to think because he's null-read for me. Are you scumreading C+A?

I don't like that C+A was invalidating the value of early game before. Like he just accepts A50's shitty read list because, "it's early so it's expected". Game has to get somewhere somehow, and you can't get out of early-game unless people start to take early-game seriously. I don't see it as a scumtell because the slot is still pushing reads and poking around for information, but I don't townread it either.

Early game is shit for information.

That is not a subjective statement. It is not open to interpretation or varying perspectives. It is fact.

So no, I'm not going to get all up in somebody's shit because they have shit reads, nor should anybody else unless they're certain they have the scum team pegged.

Let he who is without sin tie the first noose, yo.

It's important for re-reads once a few people have flipped though. People pushing/retaliating and stuff is shit for information when you have nothing solid (pre-flip) but it's useful post-flip.

Do you disagree?

Yup. D1 is trash AFAIC. The lynch is seldom better than a coin toss, and typically less likely to hit scum. D2 is where the game actually starts. Once there is real information to work with, people start getting serious about their win con.

Can scum do something spectacularly stupid on d1? Sure. Do they? Not typically. On d1, scum are on their toes. It's mid-game where mistakes are more likely to occur, where they get lazy, careless, or overconfident.

[Cane + Able]

I really wish people would stop race claiming.

[Cane + Able]

I really wish people would stop race claiming.

Did you even read my post?

What is your fascination with asking me that? I wasn't even responding to anything you said.

[Cane + Able]

What is your fascination with asking me that? I wasn't even responding to anything you said.

Well the racial thing came from my post sooo...

Idk why you think I was responding to you when 1657 was like... Right there.

[Cane + Able]

What is your fascination with asking me that? I wasn't even responding to anything you said.

Well the racial thing came from my post sooo...

Oh, you mean your 1653?

Sorry, I don't keep track of everybody's race claim. I just didn't like yet another one being thrown out there, or 1657

[Cane + Able]

Im kind of conflicted between.
Nahdia's AtE (she really feels guilty about it).
EP's post declaring us masons (i made the same mistake at the start, and we're technically masons with the possibility of an spy/scum/infiltrator, so a neighborhood).
ABR's total lack of participation in the hood and his cult paranoia that feels really fake.

It ABR has expressed paranoia of cults in the hood, his lack of participation is not total.

[Cane + Able]

It ABR has expressed paranoia of cults in the hood, his lack of participation is not total.

He didnt, he just rarely participated in the hood.

There's a tangible difference between total lack and rare. Why embellish?

[Cane + Able]

I never said it was "total lack" i said it was "lack", tho i guess with the info on his posts it can actually be considered total lack u.u

ABR's

total lack

of participation in the hood and his cult paranoia that feels really fake.

]

[Cane + Able]

Oh wait, you misread my post

I think you are misremembering your post.

[Cane + Able]

So Titus...

Where was your objection to:

UNVOTE: KurioXHF

???

I find it hard to buy that you would just let a naked unvote on your pet scumread pass by without comment as town, and you were posting both before and after the unvote.

I've been waiting to see if you'd ever get around to addressing it, but I think it's been plenty long enough.

[Cane + Able]

I have no objection. 15 votes to lynch and I am townreading Exped.

Yet you're pestering others to vote Kuroi... and not at all curious as to WHY your TOWNREAD who was on the wagon with you decided to UNVOTE your pet scumread.

No.

[Cane + Able]

So Titus...

Where was your objection to:

UNVOTE: KurioXHF

???

I find it hard to buy that you would just let a naked unvote on your pet scumread pass by without comment as town, and you were posting both before and after the unvote.

I've been waiting to see if you'd ever get around to addressing it, but I think it's been plenty long enough.

these are the words of someone desperately looking for a reason to attack titus

Not really. I could (and have!) throw shade on every other post Titus makes in tunnel mode.

A couple posts out of all her content is pretty fucking tame from me.

I'm not seeing the town!Titus I know that drives me totally bonkers, and it's setting off my scumdar.

[Cane + Able]

I have no objection. 15 votes to lynch and I am townreading Exped.

Yet you're pestering others to vote Kuroi... and not at all curious as to WHY your TOWNREAD who was on the wagon with you decided to UNVOTE your pet scumread.

No.

I am. But I am not forcing it.

You're painting me as a caricature of who I am because it is easier to deal with.

No, I'm explaining why I'm put off by your play.

You're much more cautious and "towny" as scum.

As town, you're meta chatting, tunneling, gambiting, moon logicking, and just generally all over the place until you settle in on a scumread, then woe betide the poor soul that invokes your wrath.

[Cane + Able]

I have no objection. 15 votes to lynch and I am townreading Exped.

Yet you're pestering others to vote Kuroi... and not at all curious as to WHY your TOWNREAD who was on the wagon with you decided to UNVOTE your pet scumread.

No.

I am. But I am not forcing it.

You're painting me as a caricature of who I am because it is easier to deal with.

No, I'm explaining why I'm put off by your play.

You're much more cautious and "towny" as scum.

As town, you're meta chatting, tunneling, gambiting, moon logicking, and just generally all over the place until you settle in on a scumread, then woe betide the poor soul that invokes your wrath.

You and Kuroi have my wrath.

No one sees me as charming.

Please quote where I used the word charming in any of my posts to describe you.

[Cane + Able]

I have no objection. 15 votes to lynch and I am townreading Exped.

Yet you're pestering others to vote Kuroi... and not at all curious as to WHY your TOWNREAD who was on the wagon with you decided to UNVOTE your pet scumread.

No.

I am. But I am not forcing it.

You're painting me as a caricature of who I am because it is easier to deal with.

No, I'm explaining why I'm put off by your play.

You're much more cautious and "towny" as scum.

As town, you're meta chatting, tunneling, gambiting, moon logicking, and just generally all over the place until you settle in on a scumread, then woe betide the poor soul that invokes your wrath.

You and Kuroi have my wrath.

No one sees me as charming.

Please quote where I used the word charming in any of my posts to describe you.

I summarized your gripes. Go cry elsewhere or scumhunt.

Fine.

UNVOTE:

Wake wants to do a thing today. I'm going to let him do his thing.