Gistou (Over!)

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Confirm

[KuroiXHF]

Why are people voting? This game hasn't even started, have they?

[KuroiXHF]

lol, I'm sorry for voting you, Confirm.

[KuroiXHF]

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

[KuroiXHF]

Why are you immediately assuming they're talking about you?

It's Kuroi.

He is.

...have we met?

[KuroiXHF]

Are you ignoring me?

Sorry - I didn't see your post. People are accusing others of being scum. There's so damn much to the game and it hasn't started, and I feel so lost amidst all the chaos.

[KuroiXHF]

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

Who did you find?

I can't believe - not as in "Oh boy, I can't believe I'm going to my first baseball game!" but more as in, I can't believe in a sincere way.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm not. I said what I meant, but he took it to mean the other definition of the phrase.

[KuroiXHF]

...yes

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: copper

Going to bed now. Prepared to wake up to 20 pages more

[KuroiXHF]

I just woke up. I thought I was joking about waking up to 20 more pages.

I fucking was not.

[KuroiXHF]

well this is going.

someone tell me who to vote.

Wayward.

~Bee

vote: wayward

cool.

VOTE: TWIE

You need to die if you can't think for yourself.

[KuroiXHF]

Fucking Nahdia.

[KuroiXHF]

You can read me however you like, but don't call it a bad vote when it's not, considering the early stage of day one.

[KuroiXHF]

Vote: Almost

I'll sheep that.

God damn it. Stop sheeping and start thinking.

[KuroiXHF]

but there are better d1 lynches in Kuroi or Dave or Exp and maaaaaybe Cephir.

Oh, this has got to be good.

[KuroiXHF]

*still waiting on why I'm such a good lynch to No Retreat* Or maybe he already retreated. lol

[KuroiXHF]

Why are people voting? This game hasn't even started, have they?

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

I didn't much like either of these posts. I know we've talked a little about the second one but why in the world would you say that...like whats the point?

You also voted TWIE for sheeping but not Luna so that's p strange. Other than that you don't really have anything. So why should I not want your head on a pike?

You know I can't vote more than one person at once, right?

[KuroiXHF]

I said I was going to bed. What's so complicated about this?

Also, sheeping means that you're following without any independent thought. It's a stupid thing to do - idiotic even.

And I have no opinion of Almost50 at this moment.

[KuroiXHF]

Now I can see why Wayward isn't doing well at this game - he's not a great player.

[KuroiXHF]

Also, sheeping means that you're following without any independent thought. It's a stupid thing to do - idiotic even.

Not necessarily, I said sheeping because i agree with their reason, ergo im sheeping their reason, that's far from independent thought.
If you think otherwise then might have to agree to disagree, but if you followed my posts until the vote you'd see the reasoning behind it.

What TWIE did is something i DO NOT agree with however.

Sheeping
The act of following someone in a straight line and needing to be directed in which way to go.

Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p ... rch-action (Second Definition)

[KuroiXHF]

titus a50 is dying today w/ or w/o you

Nah.

D3 or so perhaps, but I ain't feeling it today.

Hedge hedge hedge

This should be who we lynch Heartless.

What kind of wine goes with confbias?

That was low.

Merlot.

[KuroiXHF]

wait no i can do one better

When you seriously ask stupid questions like, "Why would you vote then leave?" - Responding to when I RVS'd before I went to bed.

Maybe he's a good player - but if so, he sure as hell isn't showing it in that post.

[KuroiXHF]

Correction: It's a they. Oh well.

Expedience, I'll do it sometime tomorrow. I'm about to go to bed, but I've already pointed to a few I don't like. Obviously, you can now add Wayward to the list.

[KuroiXHF]

a) i don't like your statement that anyone scumreading you is bad without any accompaniment as to why

It's a good thing I didn't say that.

b) regarding this specific point: i) okay but you could just say "i went to bed" instead of getting hostile

It was in the POST that I was going to bed. If you (universal you, not you specifically) can't be bothered to do the bare bones, you don't deserve my gum drops and butterflies demeanor. And Copper was an RVS. I enjoy my RVS. Don't take it away from me.

Heartless: TWIE, a bit of Nahdia, Luna Fox, No Retreat (kinda but not really.)

[KuroiXHF]

And I don't expect you to remember ANYTHING in SS either cuz you were hardly following the game.

you know what? fuck off

[KuroiXHF]

a) i don't like your statement that anyone scumreading you is bad without any accompaniment as to why

It's a good thing I didn't say that.

okay what's so scummy about WT other than them scumreading you then smartass

I might answer that tomorrow, Ms. Hominem.

Kuroi, I find it interesting you comment on House's allegation of confbias on him but ignore entirely that I am voting you. House has the same ignorance.

Thoughts on me voting you?

I don't really have any thoughts. I can't possibly imagine I'd be lynched based off so little. I'm sure you'll vote someone else later so I wasn't so worried.

[KuroiXHF]

that's mr. hominem to you

or it would be if smartass was really an insult

I'm sorry. For some reason, I mistook you for a woman.
And it's less about the insult than it is about the attacking:


Please pay attention to yourself. You're really making me dislike The Lion King. It's my favorite Disney film.

@Titus, the confidence is because everyone's case on me is weak.

@SaltSquad, overused meme is overused.

[KuroiXHF]

I might answer that tomorrow, Ms. Hominem.

I hope you have more on Luna and TWIE than "sheeping" because that's weak.

You do realize we're only about 24-hours into day ONE, right? Weak's all we got, and it's more than nothing.

[KuroiXHF]

Anyways. Going to bed again. Night, folks. <3

[KuroiXHF]

Actually, before I head to bed.

VOTE: Wayward Thinker

Their questioning and atrocious display thus far deserves this A LOT more than TWIE.

[KuroiXHF]

Their questioning and atrocious display thus far

'splain pls

I already have. We've discussed this already. Why can't you remember any of this?

Actually, before I head to bed.

VOTE: Wayward Thinker

Their questioning and atrocious display thus far deserves this A LOT more than TWIE.

And it has

nothing

to do with Wayward being a larger wagon at the moment?

For why I voted him? No. Did you think that him sheeping is a better reasoning than his terrible questions at an attempt to scum hunt?

Actually, before I head to bed.

VOTE: Wayward Thinker

Their questioning and atrocious display thus far deserves this A LOT more than TWIE.

And it has

nothing

to do with Wayward being a larger wagon at the moment?

Of course

P. sure Kuroi made it the larger wagon.

Of course I made it the larger wagon. I'm not denying that, but I'm forced to vote for the scummiest person because well... there's a strong correlation between scummy and scum.

[KuroiXHF]

I don't exactly care for Kuroi but WT's post voting him is both hypocritical and in general just feels like latching on to an easy target by throwing the kitchen sink at him (not that there's much to throw since Kuroi had basically 0 content)

Want to ask me questions? I just woke up.

[KuroiXHF]

Titus, I remember playing with you in Guns Ahoy. As a townie, you took great interest in observing before jumping to attack. What's changed?

[KuroiXHF]

First off, a three-person Hydra? I just realized this. Fucking what?

Strong Town:
Lean Town: Dramonic, Almost50, Cane and Able, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, Expedience
Null/Unsorted: Klingoncelt, Titus, Nosferatu, Stormblade, davesaz, Copper, Lady L, RB, Goofball, BBMolla, Toogeloo, Franky
Lean Scum: Heartless, Salt Squad, No Retreat , Cephrir, TWIE
Strong Scum: Wayward Thinker, Luna

BTW, just realized I'm finally playing a game with my old pal, Nero. Hi Nero!

And yes, my list is really undeveloped. I'm aware.

[KuroiXHF]

I haven't seen her claim. I'll reread a bit later on.

[KuroiXHF]

First off, a three-person Hydra? I just realized this. Fucking what?

Strong Town:
Lean Town: Dramonic, Almost50, Cane and Able, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, Expedience
Null/Unsorted: Klingoncelt, Titus, Nosferatu, Stormblade, davesaz, Copper, Lady L, RB, Goofball, BBMolla, Toogeloo, Franky
Lean Scum: Heartless, Salt Squad, No Retreat , Cephrir, TWIE
Strong Scum: Wayward Thinker, Luna

BTW, just realized I'm finally playing a game with my old pal, Nero. Hi Nero!

And yes, my list is really undeveloped. I'm aware.

Underdeveloped my ass

You have Luna as scum, C and A as strong town, me as null, no retreat as scum, heartless as scum and despite Math chainsawing the fuck for you, you forgot she exists

It's just garbage. Total garbage.

No Retreat is scummy, I don't have an opinion on you this game. You're annoying as fuck, but that's NAI. Fine, I forgot about Math because there are a lot of players, Luna screams scum but I'm reviewing her soon, and I strong read no one.

[KuroiXHF]

First off, a three-person Hydra? I just realized this. Fucking what?

Strong Town:
Lean Town: Dramonic, Almost50, Cane and Able, Tim, ASOIAF, RAM, Expedience
Null/Unsorted: Klingoncelt, Titus, Nosferatu, Stormblade, davesaz, Copper, Lady L, RB, Goofball, BBMolla, Toogeloo, Franky
Lean Scum: Heartless, Salt Squad, No Retreat , Cephrir, TWIE
Strong Scum: Wayward Thinker, Luna

BTW, just realized I'm finally playing a game with my old pal, Nero. Hi Nero!

And yes, my list is really undeveloped. I'm aware.

Underdeveloped my ass

You have Luna as scum, C and A as strong town, me as null, no retreat as scum, heartless as scum and despite Math chainsawing the fuck for you, you forgot she exists

It's just garbage. Total garbage.

No Retreat is scummy, I don't have an opinion on you this game. You're annoying as fuck, but that's NAI. Fine, I forgot about Math because there are a lot of players, Luna screams scum but I'm reviewing her soon, and I strong read no one.

No opinion..really? After gunslingers you have no opinion on me?

After this interaction, I'd now put you at leaning scum.

[KuroiXHF]

My quick ISO search on Luna says that she's in a neighborhood with people who are either of the same race or scum, and ABR. This isn't a town post by any means. Why do people think it is?

[KuroiXHF]

V/LA until the 27th.

Trying to catch up now...

what the fuck

What the fuck is right.

[KuroiXHF]

That makes 8 posts in a row.

@Mastin: Can we enforce some sort of spam rule, because the game is already extremely long without BS like what Math is pulling right now

It's actually six, but I agree with you.

MathBlade, there is an option to respond to more than one post at a time.
Or wait 'till you get home.

[KuroiXHF]

And Kuroi can you join us Dram?
You do realize Klingon and Math are on your wagon Dram? Look at the Kuroi wagon?

If not, can you say why?

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Vote: Kuroi

I didn't think about it that way, but you bring up a good point.

[KuroiXHF]

kuroi, which alignment do you prefer playing?

In general? Probably scum. I'm really not that great town, but I think it's because I'm less afraid to piss off people as town.

Why do you ask?

[KuroiXHF]

kuroi, which alignment do you prefer playing?

In general? Probably scum. I'm really not that great town, but I think it's because I'm less afraid to piss off people as town.

Why do you ask?

yep, from thumbing through a few of your completed games i can tell

*elaborating: preference generally translates ----> effort

and, no offense, but so far this looks comparatively low effort to me

Admittedly, I'm learning that I have a hard time with games this quick-paced. Check my last Theme Park game. I died day one too.

<<< While it was probably harmless, removed the name of an ongoing game from this post. >>>

[KuroiXHF]

...Woops. My mistake. I shalt not say another word about it.

[KuroiXHF]

Fucking hell. I'm reading Kuroi's ISO again to see if I can independently understand why he is scummy like everyone else apparently does.

Please let me know if you find something, but I've got nothing.

[KuroiXHF]

Fucking hell. I'm reading Kuroi's ISO again to see if I can independently understand why he is scummy like everyone else apparently does.

Please let me know if you find something, but I've got nothing.

Didnt I literally just do this?

No. You said it was a shit synopsis. That's it.

[KuroiXHF]

Going after me with scummy questions is scummy. I've already explained why. It's a useless and terrible way to look like you're trying to scum hunt.

[KuroiXHF]

And also, I said this before but I vote the scummiest person. Before him, it was you. He was scummier than you, so I voted him. Obviously tons of other players saw it his way.

[KuroiXHF]

you didnt call him scummy.

you called him bad.

and you did it conveniently after he posted a wall against you.

following that up by joining his wagon for asking bad questions doesnt follow?


....
seriously guys fuck off and let me post.

Holy shit. Am I being eaten by a thesaurus or something?

[KuroiXHF]

Shut the fuck up about discredits. His post was stupid and I told him why. They're both stupid and scummy.

[KuroiXHF]

Shut the fuck up about discredits. His post was stupid and I told him why. They're both stupid and scummy.

actually you didnt.

what you posted was "oh the reason this slot is suspecting me is because its bad at mafia."

and then you left it.

until someone followed up on it.

You clearly didn't read that. Check up on my ISO again.

[KuroiXHF]

You didn't get bad from when I said stupid?

Did you happen to think stupid meant good? Do I look like I listen to hip hop to you?

[KuroiXHF]

i know. i'm such a bitch.

but srsly analyzing the kuroi wagon like it's a single ball game and going on about "wagon composition" is pretty aggressively terrible

THANK YOU

someone give me bullet cases on WT and Copper. If I don't like those cases I'm lynching Kuroi or we could always flash wagon Celt and then lynch Storm when she flips scum.

Did you call me a she?

[KuroiXHF]

@Nero,

My opinion, yes. I believe I have said so. It's a meta observation from someone who hates meta routinely. Nor should you have to read gunslingers. I didn't go full ham on Kuroi until he called Mollie psychotic to discredit her, until then I was meh whichever scumread. I don't think Kuroi makes that mistake again though.

Tbh, I feel like I cannot talk about any of my strengths in this game because lol cult.

@Cerb, Read Tim's observations. Klingon mentions Kuroi maybe all of once scumreading him. Zero interaction there. The void emptiness of interactions says something. Kuroi and Kling don't really try to sort each other.

The psychotic thing is not game-relevant. We've already touched upon that subject and I'm not going to discuss that with you.

[KuroiXHF]

I know you're going to give me shit for this but Nahdia I think you're right. I thought it over and I changed my mind. It's not about confidence, it's about actually pushing people and she never really did much of that in the ISO I read.

VOTE: RAM

Kuroi, if you're town, do you seriously not realize how uncooperative and almost hostile your entire play is? Because you're making it impossible for me to read you right now.

I actually do. I'm hoping to be a bit better from here on out. I just finished writing this long paper for class and hope to be more constructive at this point.

[KuroiXHF]

I am actually bothered by people who've posted only a few times. It seems since I'm a large target, I'm being seen over the people who are apparently hiding under the radar.

[KuroiXHF]

I am actually scum, and the other leading wagons are too. Look over here, wouldn't you rather go for a nice tasty lurker lynch?

If you actually look at my 2903 post, you'd find I would not say that at all. If this is seriously your Mafia play, quit Mafia. If this is seriously a joke, quit comedy.

[KuroiXHF]

u mad?

Nope. I don't get emotional over this game.

[KuroiXHF]

Titus, look at the scum thread. I said that I exaggerated my anger

[KuroiXHF]

Titus, look at the scum thread. I said that I exaggerated my anger

But you were still angry. And you're still salty here, and still avoiding and deflecting.

Very minorly. Are you trying to move me by semantics?
And I'll go through the game again?

[KuroiXHF]

Okay. I'm going to start going through the game again.

[KuroiXHF]

First Ten Pages

I'm a non-human aligned with humans and I hate all non-humans

Figure that one out

Where do you hail from?

Way too fucking early for this kind of talk.

West

Counterclaim! (Or not.)

Not sure what to make of BB. They did say they weren't human. IIRC, there was something about humans being vulnerable or something like that, but don't know what this means.

What?

Not really, that;s what I would expect FA to do as either alignment.

If you suck at sorting me like everyone else beside one or two people who are approved don't try to do so.

If your going to call me scum come at me with something that I can come back at. calling me scum for "I can't read and I can only see" when I made a list of what I read there is a retarded way to coming back at me.

I made it perfectly clear if you have any problem with me or my playing style tell me at pregame. Now you gotta shut up and let me do my thing as i do it and get the things done or your going to get out of here cause I'm already in game .

Now excuse me. I don't have time and energy to deal with you. fix yourself or get out of the way ...

Like what ? your going to vote me?

do it

what are you threatening me of? who do you think you are ? I made a point that I believed at and i'm standing on it. do whatever the fuck you want to do and let me catch scum in the mean vile.

~Ice

This is scum FA. Town FA knows better than to do this shit again.

how has molla's role lost utility from what he's done so far?

have you been paying attention at all

I've realized something about Cephrir. Not a lot of scum hunting, but a hell of a lot of judging other people's quotes.

mediator

You already are assuming I'm mafia and your trying to fit my game in your scum illusion.

Your beyond help in this topic. as I said whenever you tried to read me and not just shitting around I'm here to answer.

~Ice

This sounded inorganic. The post this was replying to was nowhere near "You're beyond help" status.

the players gonna play play play play play
haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate

im just gonna shake shake shake shake shake

shake it out

SHAKE IT OUT

/confirm

If I saw this the first time around, I would have already voted you for this.

[KuroiXHF]

titus if your ego comes out and rules everytging this game i will be pissed

at you

Is this why I haven't seen a lot of Heartless? Hope you feel better soon.

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Well my win condition indicates that i'm town so i doubt this is necessarily the case.

Are you referring to the having a night kill part, or winning with a faction part?

Referring to the part where i need to eliminate all threats to humanity thing and have someone with the same wincon alive.

Please tell me THIS isn't the part where she's

cleared.

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Well my win condition indicates that i'm town so i doubt this is necessarily the case.

Are you referring to the having a night kill part, or winning with a faction part?

^scum

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Or cult?

^once again scum

No, what's scummy is writing off a legit possibility.

Are you trying to piss me off with Robb-like idiocy, bro?

^scum

It's a good thing Pumbaa has a large stomach because Cephrir is calling like... ten people scum so far and I have a feeling he'll have to eat a lot of these words.

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Well my win condition indicates that i'm town so i doubt this is necessarily the case.

Are you referring to the having a night kill part, or winning with a faction part?

^scum

well technically, there is no scum since everyone wins with their faction. But you said before you didn't have a nightkill right? In my eyes that's town.

Or cult?

^once again scum

No, what's scummy is writing off a legit possibility.

Are you trying to piss me off with Robb-like idiocy, bro?

^scum

Okay pumrir, explain to me how cult isn't a possibility.

While you're at it, explain why me poking at a logical hole makes me scum.

i just didn't like your tone in the last post

Oh, I see! Townies always have a nice disposition! It's like butterflies and rainbows INFUSED into the words on the computer! Town would never come in with such a lack of grace and a presence of bitterness!

@LQ, Not sure. Too early to tell. If you stay active, I should have an opinion within a few IRL days. This cold is slowing down my usual processes.

And how are you feeling now?

[KuroiXHF]

^That was the first twenty pages.

[KuroiXHF]

let me guess you're going to try to attack me as often as you can in your "read" and build this into a vote and shitty case because your thought processes are sooooo independent and everyone will townread you and sunshine and rainbows and happiness

thats your plan right

Oh, hey. Look. I'm right about my read on you.

[KuroiXHF]

Personally I think that they should change the site so making your text bold should make it less visible and making text larger should actually make it smaller.

I feel like Cane + Able are just going to use bold text for the entire game as though it makes their opinions more bold, and that bothers me.

Tbh i thought House was using normal text and Wake bold text to differentiate the heads.

Yes but they could just sign like normal hydras.

Sorry, never learned ASL.

What does ASL have anything to do with this?

VOTE: rb

Sorry, but this is a piss poor vote.

VOTE: Cane and Able

The Nos votes suck, their vote sucks. The heartless vote is rather meh. Anti's probably town though. I've been scum with him and I cannot seem him efforting this hard as scum.

this makes no sense, heartless's play has been lukewarm so far, not try hard

-sc

Eh, this is actually a good enough post.

VCA

oh good i need to add to my wall of self-quotes about vca being shit

Titus is actually very good with VCA - if she's Town.

As Scum, her analysis is a load of wank.

if and when this comes up again, please don't waste your words trying to convince me that it's anything but hokey garbage that's right exactly as often as random chance

True story but Titus did VCA in one game and was like "the scum is in these players" it was like 50% correct.

anyways

vote:Expedience

And I don't believe this is town.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm not really liking the quote wall routine Kuroi's doing right now.

It's one thing if you're pulling quotes to support a specific read, but quoting something and then making a cute comment just looks like busy work to me.

I said I would catch up. This is me catching up.

[KuroiXHF]

sometimes a scum is just a scum

Excellent addition. Who are my scum buddies?

BTW, what's your paypal account? I kind of think it's rude to not pay someone for a psychic reading.

[KuroiXHF]

Keeping in mind that I'm sure that I'm missing some information:

I am obviously biased to lynching anyone that's me. Right now, if day were to end this minute, I'd be gone. Unless you're a jester, everyone wants to live. With that said, Stormblade almost vouched for Klingon, so that means something. 90% is a damn high number. As far as Klingon's posting style so far, I need to read more but none of this screams scum. The only scummy thing I've noticed so far is that I get the feeling that Klingon is hiding a bit. It's not terribly huge. Honestly though, I wouldn't vote Klingon unless I believe I could survive by voting that slot.

[KuroiXHF]

what is the VC look like atm?

sometimes a scum is just a scum

Excellent addition. Who are my scum buddies?

BTW, what's your paypal account? I kind of think it's rude to not pay someone for a psychic reading.

just sayin I actually count this post as a scum claim.

~Ice

How so?

[KuroiXHF]

@Cerb, we could vote Kuroi and just trust the vig to handle Klingon?

Why not the opposite?

[KuroiXHF]

Anyway, an Expedience flip would tell us some things, no?

WHat would it tell you?

Whether or not Titus is scum.

Interesting. Looking back, it seems to be Titus just scum reading people who scum read her.

What is COM hunting?

COM hunting is trying to figure out someones main account. Our games on sc2mafia use anon accounts in order to prevent players using meta as basis of reading a player.

What do you mean by no conclusions from his questions?

Like for example 696
Like idk, i feel like he's been posting, commenting and asking questions and i still have no idea where he stands, if this is normal from him in your opinion it may be my gut pinging to his playstyle, but so far i just dont like it.

I don't think this is irregular by him in anyway. I think your a just getting pinged by his style to be honest. I don't have a solid read on him, but nothing seems "strange" or pings me yet. If anything he feels more involved than normal.

~Dragonbringer

This doesn't sound like scum. I'm now perplexed by ASOIAF. I think Fire is town, but Ice is scum.

Guys please respect the pronouns and use they. I know you got introduced to me as that I was Titus's sister but I prefer Titus's sibling snd they.

This isn't useful to the game and sounds distracting.

Oh god so much associative tells.

your play style sucks

again I feel that about everyone - even myself so there's that

answer my question please

pedit : thx

~Ice

This post is useless.

ny 191-http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=64409

the Dave is this game was NOT in that game. It was Davsto who is totes a diffrent player unless alt.

Okay, I'm thinking this is town, even if I don't like this play.

more Dave sheeps plox

And this is why I don't like this play.

Actually, when I look back at Mathblade's earlier post, umm what's up with "grouping" people so early anyway?

Not liking this. We need to figure out who's who and whom they're aligned with. It's not like this is a simple "everyone plays for their own" kind of game.

Which brings me to this simple announcement:

- To ALL Humans (regardless of your origin, tribe and what not): Do NOT drop by (i.e. do not try to visit me).

Non-Humans are welcome to try though
here, kitty kitty kitty kitty

This is just terrible.

@kuroi cuase you asked him to think about after your scum flip not defending yourself for why you shouldn't even flip. asking him who are his other scumreads is a way for engaging him and seeing how he builds his reads and shows the fact your suspicious at him

you said who are my scumbuddies implying you know he is town , scumreading you legity andyou just wanted him confused with assosciative tells even before a flip which implies your a scum well distant from your partners or your a scum who is solo in a faction probably a SK or cult leader.

thats how I see that.

I don't even know what you

're

trying to say.

@Cerb, we could vote Kuroi and just trust the vig to handle Klingon?

Why not the opposite?

VOTE: Kuroi

I was giving you a shot. I'm basically picking which townread to go with. Nero or Cerb.

Now you weren't. To test that theory, I'm telling you that you'll just switch back to someone else because you love to switch your votes around to the most recent person irking you.

Preview - Toogeloo - Lurking out? lol. Where have you been today?

[KuroiXHF]

no that post was not useless. I was genuinely trying to engage mathblade cuase of her scumread on me.

You said you have us as town lean before how you had that read and what about my early posts is suddenly scummy for you? what changed?

and what about my last post you can't understand.

~Ice

I didn't know what you were trying to say. I just don't understand the message you're trying to convey. It sounds like if someone tried to say, "I almost computer after the day when snowing sherbert."

And that other post WAS useless. You said "Your post sucks, but I think that about everyone" and that means you either think they all suck or no one sucks.

Preview - Nice, Titus. You're upset at me so you're rallying for my lynch. Interesting kind of justice.

[KuroiXHF]

871 - Because I've already worked enough today.

[KuroiXHF]

Yep.

[KuroiXHF]

@Kuroi

yeah I feel everyone else beside me sucks sometimes. that changes to I just suck and everyone else not sucks sometimes. offtopic really. not sure what was the point of that post. I have a isolation of more than 200 posts and your really bringing one post out of it and saying its wording was useless? the post that its entire reason was for bumping my previous questions,

about cephir : your wording felt like you know he is legitly scumreading you (means you two are not in same faction if your scum) . instead of asking him what are his scumreads you asked him who are my scumbuddies which means your

1) confident there is no assosciative tells between you and others (which means your a solo scum or distansced well atm)
2) although your pretending to, your not defending yourself. your just trying to suggest you can't be scum with anyone.

~Ice

*You're

And as I've said before, I am catching up. Cephrir is scum reading everyone he wants to, but he's not scum hunting.

[KuroiXHF]

And as I've said before, I am catching up. Cephrir is scum reading everyone he wants to, but he's not scum hunting.

cephir was my earliest prob town who I put in null when I saw he is not getting anywhere with his reads and is just testing the ground and he is still there.

thats not related to what I felt about how you appeased to him.

~Ice

How does anything I've said even appear to be appeasing to Cephrir?

[KuroiXHF]

How does anything I've said even appear to be appeasing to Cephrir?

appeasing is not the correct word. it felt engaging with the knowledge he knows your town.

~Ice

You think that Cephrir knows I'm town?
Do you think I'm town?

Preview Edit: So you think that I know Cephrir is town?

[KuroiXHF]

(Sorry about the double posting.)

<<< That's what mods are for. (And THIS is why it sometimes takes me forever to read everything. Have to make sure the doubles are identical before I delete one.) >>>

[KuroiXHF]

You've used "(the misppelled you're) just shitting me right now" when you were scum in House M.D. The exact phrase.

VOTE: A Song Of Ice And Fire

[KuroiXHF]

Yeah. This is your exact same play. Not just the phrase. This is all scum.

[KuroiXHF]

So many god damn House avatars, and House isn't even playing the game anymore.

Maybe he is.

I mean, everyone lies.

[KuroiXHF]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8120007
Post 998

Oh really, ASOIAF. Link me.

[KuroiXHF]

Ice, I said link me. I'm not going through your games. If you've claim to have said them, prove it.

[KuroiXHF]

@Kuroi your accusing me that I use that phrase as mafia only and not town . I'm using that phrase all the time IRL and I have no idea about how much and how I used them. the burden of proof is on the accuser. I don't have any intentions to meta read myself cuase your accusing me of some shit which is not obviously alignment indicative. your saying cuase I used it on a same mafia game recently I'm mafia cause I said it? kindda sad how much your trying to just throw dirt throw me

VOTE: Kuroi I was waiting for fire to come online or mastin to make a VC but clearly not getting any tonight

I meant like

What does "not getting anywhere with my reads" mean.

It sounds kinda like something I don't do

I'm not disagreeing that I could probably fake 99% of what I've done this game

I mean its not like your reads are there to sort people, seems just playing good and having good reads without fighting for having them , not sure If I'm implying what I meant good enough.

good night anyway.

~Ice

*You're

I'm saying I'm giving you the chance to prove me wrong and instead of doing that, you've decided to just vote me. I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by doing that.

[KuroiXHF]

Okay seriously Kuroi, you don't HAVE to correct the yours in every post <_<

It's been irking me, a lot more than usual more recently. I'm hoping she gets the hint.

[KuroiXHF]

hope there is no your in there cause its extremely hard to use ' in phone or writing that long shit at all.

It takes an extra two seconds to spell something correctly. How else do you make use of that time that is so much more useful?

want a hint?

I'm sure I used the same phrase to cerb in bloodborne mafia where I was town.

~Ice

I've said this before - LINK IT.

[KuroiXHF]

want a hint?

I'm sure I used the same phrase to cerb in bloodborne mafia where I was town.

~Ice

[KuroiXHF]

It appears to be too difficult for you to link me so I've become forced to do it for you:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8110652

You did not use the phrase shitting me. The closest you came is the linked post where you said, "Shitting around," which is completely different than the phrase "shitting me." It's not just the phrase. You've used a post with the exact quote, the same everything that' you've used in a game where you're scum.

You've failed to prove your argument.

[KuroiXHF]

No, I think a complete sentence is definitely concrete proof. This game is based off human psychology and people most definitely act differently when they have two different motivations (town or scum.) If you're waiting for her to accidentally blurt out that she's scum, you're expecting too much.

If psychology states that she only does something when she's scum and she does something that's ONLY done while scum, then it's not a good sign for her.

I actually want this argument (as well as your doubt) to be preserved when she comes back as scum.

Preview Edit: My name is not Felicia. I told you to quit doing comedy.

[KuroiXHF]

It appears to be too difficult for you to link me so I've become forced to do it for you:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8110652

You did not use the phrase shitting me. The closest you came is the linked post where you said, "Shitting around," which is completely different than the phrase "shitting me." It's not just the phrase. You've used a post with the exact quote, the same everything that' you've used in a game where you're scum.

You've failed to prove your argument.

This is absolutely utterly ridiculous. Who has time to parse eveerygame frozen is in for around versus me?

Second, both are common phrases.

Not by her. I asked her to parse through ONE. You didn't even have to parse. A simple quick-tool for find and then use those words.

Again, ONE game where she's done that as town.

[KuroiXHF]

Again, Cephrir, prove me wrong. Why can't you read a post above yours?

[KuroiXHF]

Checked every game she's taken part in this summer.

She's not done it in ANY of her town games, BUT - she's done it in:
Micro 620 - SCUM
Micro 619 - SCUM.

I'm still looking.

So far, it's three games. Want to tell me more about how my pattern is faulty?

[KuroiXHF]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... Statistics

I just checked EVERY game in here.

0 while town.
3 while scum.

I made sure to check for games when she hydra'd with someone.

Frozen Angel is scum.

[KuroiXHF]

...
Oh rly?

I've never said she's never used a form of shit. I've said she didn't use the phrase, "You've got to be shitting me." It's a common form to try to call someone out in order to reduce their statements and make yourself appear critical.

Titus, a nice thing to say when you've been proven wrong.

[KuroiXHF]

Titus, I'd like to make a proposition to you, if you're so sure that Frozen Angel is town.

[KuroiXHF]

I skipped over the phrase "shitting me." Still, it's used differently.

Fine, so my assuredness of scum is dropped from 95% to 88%. She's still the scummiest person in this game.

Heartless, please explain.

[KuroiXHF]

I don't make deals with my scumreads unless desperate. I am not Kuroi.

Are you aware how disingenuous that post came across?

[KuroiXHF]

Okay. That's fine if you don't care, but it seems like you're more out to get me than you are to find true scum.

You can choose not to give any fucks about this post anyway, but it's not about you. It's about the scum.

[KuroiXHF]

My main reason for wanting to lynch Kuroi over fellow scum lords kc and wt is that he is the most intolerable of the bunch

They're all good lynched though

^me

Dang, that took me about 5 minutes to fuck up

Still having a difficult grasp on the whole "scum hunting" part, aren't ya?

[KuroiXHF]

You're ignoring someone that you're supposed to interact with during this game?

Did I read that right?

[KuroiXHF]

Yes. You're on death vote because you're spouting ridiculous shit as scum to survive.

Math just is spamming because she lacks common sense.

I'm hoping this is the scum talking.

[KuroiXHF]

So im going to erase from my memory the last page too.
Kuroi is still scum.
Let's kill him.

Will you kill Frozen Angel after you realize I'm not scum?

[KuroiXHF]

I used psychology to prove why she is most likely scum?

Two questions now:
1. Do you believe that psychology is not a major component in Mafia?
2. Will you answer my question please?

[KuroiXHF]

I used psychology to prove why she is most likely scum?

Two questions now:
1. Do you believe that psychology is not a major component in Mafia?
2. Will you answer my question please?

In the supposed scenario in which you'd flip town.

For me to sheep your reads they need merit, in your posting, what i've seen doesnt merit a sheep. So I asked you a question.
Come up with my answer to your question from this. And come up with an answer towards my question if you want a favorable answer.

So that's a NO to both questions, I take it.

I used psychology to prove why she is most likely scum?

Two questions now:
1. Do you believe that psychology is not a major component in Mafia?
2. Will you answer my question please?

Dude, I use language as a key indicator and even I think your statements are NAI. At best, your theory means more pressure. Language suggests the emotion a person feels and suggests their true emotions. Frequently using some language as scum, but only a little as town, at best indicates that Frozen feels a certain way as scum more than town, and that she felt similarly here.

That's the most charitable version of what you spammed the last 10 pages with.

You complain when I don't contribute to this game and when I do contribute to this game, you accuse me of spam. A pattern is only an indicator but with three uses while scum and none while town, that's a pretty big indicator. You'd be foolish not to pay attention to this.

[KuroiXHF]

Spam is not contribution. These catchup posts forcing people to reply with things already said are not contribution.

Yeah, also Dram kinda found a town one.

Why don't you give thoughts on everyone?

Last time I tried, you told me it was garbage. You're acting like the father who's never proud of their son.

"Dad. I only got one question wrong in the SATs!"
"*sigh* and yet it's the thin, yet very apparent wall that keeps me from loving you."

[KuroiXHF]

I still kinda feel like WT is VI, tbh...

-titus

Fixed it for me

Yeah, If I get called VI again I'm replacing out.

Is this LQ or Suzune speaking? Don't you kind of both have to agree?

[KuroiXHF]

BTW, I'm so glad that Nahdia's opinion doesn't matter.

[KuroiXHF]

A quick serch of Suzune's posts show that she's V/LA until Monday.
So i'm pretty sure this is LQ.

I take those with a grain of salt. Malakittens, for example, in my recently completed game, was V/LA but kept posting.

[KuroiXHF]

Nahdia

is there a reason that you're needlessly being a dick?

just curious

I don't consider myself as needlessly being a dick.

[KuroiXHF]

She was rude to me. Tell her to stop, and she'll be fine.

[KuroiXHF]

Just got back. I feel like I'm missing something.

Preview Edit - What Mathblade said.

[KuroiXHF]

All your reasons suck fwiw.

That is not going to fly.

If you think his reasons suck you

had better

explain

why

you believe so.

I whole-heartedly agree.

[KuroiXHF]

I hope to catch up soon. Weekends aren't active times for me and it's the one time during the week that I can actually do house stuff.

[KuroiXHF]

You guys are going to feel stupid. Remember what I said about Frozen Angel.

[KuroiXHF]

Why are people voting? This game hasn't even started, have they?

I open up Kuroi's iso and I see this.

Like...

someone run me down quickly: How bad is Kuroi as a player, in general? Like.... how inexperienced/incapable

I can answer this for you - I'm not.

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

I can't believe we found scum before the game even began...

Who did you find?

I can't believe - not as in "Oh boy, I can't believe I'm going to my first baseball game!" but more as in, I can't believe in a sincere way.

I'm not. I said what I meant, but he took it to mean the other definition of the phrase.

Why is this so hard to believe? Like, people had their role PMs by then, so their intent was within boundries of their alignment.

I want to know why you felt this way?

It was pregame. People don't fuck up this easily or this quickly. I have to ask, though. Why are you only now starting to pay attention to this game?

[KuroiXHF]

Maybe FULLY reading my ISO before making your own judgments might be ideal...

[KuroiXHF]

Maybe FULLY reading my ISO before making your own judgments might be ideal...

Yeah I'm down to lynch this.

Excellent retort. I concede to your superior logic.

It seems that you'd rather lynch someone who's critical in discussion rather than actually... discussing the topic.

[KuroiXHF]

Maybe FULLY reading my ISO before making your own judgments might be ideal...

Yeah I'm down to lynch this.

Excellent retort. I concede to your superior logic.

It seems that you'd rather lynch someone who's critical in discussion rather than actually... discussing the topic.

You and Titus need to like, put your brains together, because you both have the same problem.

I don't need logic to lynch you, I just need gut and intent.

And it all feels scummy for your posting, and these reactions aren't helping you.

So

No. All you need to vote someone is enough brain power to slap your fingers against the keys of a keyboard to vote me.

That's all.

And in that regard, you are quite adequate.

[KuroiXHF]

Yeah, I have been on Kuroi since early game. He's flailing and discrediting but not saying who I should look at. I don't think we'll be getting together for this one.

I've got my issues. I'm working on them.

Yeah beetlejuice.

I've counted three incorrect statements here. On the other hand, you are working on them so that's good.

[KuroiXHF]

I'm a doctor from the North. Human for what it's worth.

[KuroiXHF]

If you think it's bullshit, hammer me. Just don't pussy foot and send me into a hell of limbo.

[KuroiXHF]

I have no idea all this information. It doesn't show my name on here.

The location is other, and it also says I'm a racial checker. I also didn't select any kind of cop.

[KuroiXHF]

@Luna, I think he's lying.

Even if he cannot give a human name, there's still a section that says you are [blank]. I also have other evidence that suggests Kuroi is not telling the truth.

He's just claiming the most powerful roles to make us afraid to lynch him when no one is normal here IMO.

Do show me the evidence.

[KuroiXHF]

There is seriously no role you could possibly have that could tell me if I'm lying.

[KuroiXHF]

Oh, I see. My name is Hans Pohl.

[KuroiXHF]

Then I don't see how I can help you any further.

[KuroiXHF]

FUCK - NOW MY SCUM PLANS ARE RUI-

Oh, wait. You said

fake

hammer?

[KuroiXHF]

So let's take a look at someone else. I think I've been tested well enough. I got enough heat, yes? I'd like more on ASOIAF.

[KuroiXHF]

I've already claimed, though. Surely my claim at least screams town. I'll probably die tonight anyway.

You guys may at least want to check my town meta. I'm more likely to be scum if I appear town.

[KuroiXHF]

Should we Scumread players who lie in-game about their Race/Nation/Location?

Yes.