Newbie 1734 - Happy (Game Over)

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replaces kyndy101.

Yeah he does!

Will read up as soon as I can. Probably tomorrow.

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Mod, is it possible to have an up to date VC and more frequent VCs please?

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Alright, I am here and catching up now.

UNVOTE:

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Alright, so I have read 5 pages so far (didn't realise there was 34!) and I have some reads already.

Gamma is very likely town, Uzi might be town and maybe Magi (Zyf) as well.

Skold and Infinity look like scum. No read on the others.

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I think that's who you replaced?

Infinity's first vote felt overexplained. Usually, people who have played a few games just randomly vote during RVS. In Newbie games, newbies tend to question why people are random voting because they haven't seen it before/or played that way. It attracts unwated attention if you're scum; Infinity avoids this unwanted attention by straight away claiming his vote is random.

Also, I have just finished a game with Infinity where he was scum. I was one of (if not the only) person to correctly read him as scum early game. If he feels threatened by me, as well he should, I would expect him to come for me as scum straight away (which he did by immediately voting me as soon as I entered the game).

Skold is only scum if Infinity is scum though so I'm just going to shelf that read for now.

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Wow, those 5 pages up to page 10 were horrendous to read.

I retract my Skold scum read - that is pretty fucking ballsy if he is scum. He drew an awful lot of attention to himself and I don't think he would do this as scum.

No other reads change, slightly worried I don't have a read on Rask yet but I'm sure it will come.

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Infinity is scum trying to get his biggest threat lynched.

His early game was also pretty poor. I'm only up to page 10, I will be continuing my catch up when I can.

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Infinity is also trying to appease people all the time to prevent them from scum reading him.

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Infinity is also trying to appease people all the time to prevent them from scum reading him.

Maybe there's a point here.

I'll bring up examples when I'm on PC/laptop.

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Infinity has been very frequently posting in another game. Thoughts?

There's not much to comment on here

I like the observation though

The way you're pushing me looks towny. Especially that last post.

Ok frustration for the inactivity looks town.

And I feel you! Sometimes we just have to wait...

This is slightly different. This is called 'pocketing' where you agree/empathise with people in order to get them on your side.

Anyway, just try your best to contribute.

This is just from the first few pages. Lots of appeasing, buddying, pocketing. Typical scum traits that work wonderully well in newbie games especially.

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That's not your role. And you can be welcoming without buddying/appeasing/pocketing.

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I welcome votes on Infinity and will continue my catch up soon.

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Because I like to keep notes so I need my laptop.

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TIL?

I didn't see that in previous games. He is trying to explain it as 'helping the newbies' but I'm not buying it. The way he goes about it reeks of scum motivation.

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You should vote him. There is nothing wrong with having someone at L-1 38 pages into a game.

It's time for a lynch. Too much information can be detrimental for town sometimes because you lose the real important stuff in all of the back and forths.

L-1 also has numerous other advantages.

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You can hear what he has to say whilst he is at L-1.

Nobody will quick hammer. Quick hammering is essentially a scum claim if Infinity somehow flips town.

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This is some next level godlike understanding of mafia

Thanks.

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The questions has already been answered.

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Did BBT even fully get caught up or give his thoughts on someone not Infinity?

Nope, not yet.

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Infinity, I don't care much for your 'read' on me.

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Can we not quote entire walls please - makes it much more difficult to reread.

Do not back off L-1. Uzi, state intent to hammer on Infinity and force him to claim.

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Nah, we're nearing 40 pages.

We need a claim to move this game forward. Frankly, someone should have been lynched 20 pages ago.

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I like you Skold.

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He is trying to buy time.

Waiting for Rask to produce a town case and attempt to save him.

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I'm just finishing page 18. It's taken a while because I have taken advantage of the fact that I have had the chance to have real-time interactions.

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Zyf, I retracted my scum read on Skold after reading up to end of page 10.

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Stop wall quoting.

It makes thread hard to read. Just @somebody or trim the quote to whatever you're responding to.

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If the game was dead that means a) scum were happy with previous game state or b) scum were inactive.

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Yeah...we should have lynched Infinity by now.

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Fuck, I thought Rask was town until his vote on me. That was pretty awful.

Infinity/Rask/Zyf. Scum is in those three people.

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Shame on you all for putting someone on L-1 who was enjoying a good nights sleep!

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Hammer me.

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I'n VT.

Remember the 3 people I said who were scum.

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Infinity is 100% scum. Probably with Zyf but don't discount Rask.

Good luck town, I have a feeling you're gonna need it.

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I don't give a fuck. I replaced in because I hate seeing Newbie games without an IC. My playstyle clashes horribly with newbies who first come to the site which is why I stopped IC'ing.

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Scum have this game won. I can guarantee it.

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Scum have won because of the flow of the game. There is no cohesion and anyone can be wagoned in the blink of an eye which gives scum great cover.

Like I said, whoever is town, I wish you the best of luck.

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What?

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It might be Infinity getting lynched if Rask is right.

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Can someone show me what Rask is talking about.

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Show me what you're talking about Rask.

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If there is a hammer on Infinity before me then surely Infinity is the lynch.

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It looks like it yeah, which means Infinity was already hammered.

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VOTE: infinity
That seemed an over reach.
Heads up for everyone though, I've given up the use of scumtells because I have yet to find one that actually does anything to confirm scum.

int.

to hammer, if that somehow wasn't clear.

Your vote didn't change. Infinity was hammered.

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Because I'm not gonna pick on a person playing catch-up, but I support the gladiator idea.
VOTE: Infinity
Also, Gally you are right actually, that's part of it.

That's not your role. And you can be welcoming without buddying/appeasing/pocketing.

hey this reminds me EXACTLY of what rask did to me in 1714 when we were together late at night
i like it, bbt
VOTE: Infinity

Nope, my mistake.

For some absurd reason I never actually voted for Infinity. So he only got to L-1.

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The quotes shouldn't be there.

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Why the fuck didn't I vote Infinity.

Yeah, am dead. At least I get to find out who is scum now.

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Rask probably isn't scum.

Scum in Infinity/Zyf/Uzi. Something about Uzi feels off, my most confident scum read is Zyf but I was trying to keep it under wraps until I could explain it properly.

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I can just request spoilers.

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Nah, I can't explain it. Which is why I never brought it up. It's just a strong gut read.

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I'm not hating on anyone. Just putting reads out there to be considered/ followed up on after my flip.

I hate the way you inmediately believed I was town as well. I also feel like you're tongue in cheek trolling me as scum as well.

Hopefully Mod appears quickly and puts me out of my misery.

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I didn't even get the chance to read why I was being wagoned haha.

Strange game this one.

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Inf/Uzi makes a lot of sense.

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Why would I not continue pushing my scum read?

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Infinity was an infinitely better lynch.

I'm here all twilight.

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Well played town, got there in the end!

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Yeah, my bad on the Infinity push.

Was good to play with you again Rask.

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It's hard not to conf bias when that person is pushing you back.