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VOTE: Javajoe

difficult choices come tomorrow

wait, I had a thing



for javajoe definitely, if cass is catching up I'll give 'em a pass, but they must vote me nonetheless

then guiltylion and lane must post to townfirm themselves by not hammering

feel like if it's cass/guiltylion we'll have lost already, might as well make sure it's javajoe/cass

I see what you are trying to accomplish Mcmenna, and I don't blame you for it. But look at it from my perspective for a second, as if you knew I was town. If I were to vote you now, the only confirmed town we have, scum could jump on the wagon, quick lynch you and end the game. If you are quick lynched today, then that leaves only 4 players, two of whom are scum. I understand you believe me to be scum and that is why you proposed this, but knowing I am town I cannot do this and risk the game. I only know that 2 scum lie between GL, Cass, and Lane. To me the only likely possibility would be GL and Cass, I am really thinking that lane is town.

VOTE: Javajoe

it's joe/cass

Did you actually read what I said? This is lylo! Unvote before they quick hammer!

relax, joe

this is normal

What is normal? I get you think I am scum and I am fine with that, but unvote so we can get some discussions in today before someone quick hammers!

UNVOTE:

I suppose that's fair

Thank you for being reasonable. So what are your thoughts on what I said about GL and cass being the scum team?

McMenno decides who to lynch today

then whoever he decides, we have everyone else vote, in the order McMenno decides. I'm pretty sure that this is the best guard that we have against scum quickhammers.

also I'd like JJ to explain exactly why he thinks I'm more likely to be scum than Lane

In post 61, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 50, lane0168 wrote:Guilty I've got a town read on you. Did you fool me before? Oh I just remembered I almost fooled you in that multiball. Anyways, I think if we lynch the opposite corner from me and those two sides it should be a win...

Haha Lane I think I've been town every time we have played together

also I am thinking you are town here
UNVOTE:

This seems like buddying to me. And you continue to buddy with lane throughout the game.

In post 20, GuiltyLion wrote:Can't force a scumkill on them, but we can guarantee that we'll lynch them as follows:

In post 18, lane0168 wrote:alpaca

lynching Luna Fox would force a D3 lynch on Alpaca

In post 18, lane0168 wrote:umlaut

lynching atm would force a D3 lynch on Umlaut

In post 18, lane0168 wrote:or Dunnstral?

eh you got me there, but lynching Dunn on D2 would be safe (although it would give scum semi-free reign for D2 night kill)

We're not going to be able to force certain players to be scumkilled if we play in the center either. After the scum NK and our D2 lynch, you'll have the same problem that you're pointing out here. You're just delaying this problem in the setup by one day, after you lynch confirmed town.

This is the first time you mention alpaca being scum, before I think he had truly done anything scummy. I believe you are bussing your partner for town cred, painting a picture to town of me and alpaca as scum because you lay a plan in the future to let you, lane(who you are buddying), and me make it to the final three. Thus making me the obvious choice to lynch winning you the game.

In post 26, GuiltyLion wrote:My point is, let's say we go your plan, scum kill atm, we lynch java, alpaca turns up dead, now we're forced to lynch Dunnstral, scum is forced to kill lane, and everyone else is immune from NKs

You had just said that alpaca is scummy, but in this post you said he will turn up dead, insinuating that he is town.

In post 64, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 55, lane0168 wrote:My strategy is keep upper right corner alive. If scum don't kill IC then we'll win from tic tac toe. If they do everyone in bottom left dies.

This is the best approach, I think. If we can all agree on a corner block with three townies, we can lynch the opposite corner and force the other six players to be killed. Worst case scenario is both scum are in the block of 3 and we lose, meh scenario is a 2-1 LYLO, best case scenario is autowin.

What do people think of {lane, GL, javajoe} as a block? Unfortunately I'm not all that inclined to believe in town!java

I have already commented on how you laid out this plan for your benefit, and in the same post you start discrediting me in the last sentence. You have played with me before and know I am easy lynch bait.

In post 218, GuiltyLion wrote:

In post 211, Luna Fox wrote:Well we need to get a lynch going, and since you guys want to lynch me at some point down the line might as well do it now.
VOTE: Luna Fox

So you have Dunn in your leftovers pile but you'd rather lynch yourself than him??

intent to hammer

I'll wait for Umlaut. Unfortunately this means Alpaca survives a long time, which may be why LF is doing this

Further soft bussing on alpaca. Earlier you had said he would turn up dead and you don't seem to have any independent argument for him being scum that I saw. Maybe you can point it out if I missed it?

In post 266, GuiltyLion wrote:lane do you think scum just threw the game? Or do you think it's java-alpaca team?

Here is where you start pushing for me and alpaca being on the same team, which benefits you by bussing your partner for town cred and throwing shade at me for an easy mislynch.

In post 297, GuiltyLion wrote:I still think it's Elmo-Alpaca and if Elmo flips scum then we auto-win

But just a few posts later you "still" think it's an Elmo alpaca team? When did you ever say it was an Elmo alpaca team? And you just said a few posts ago it was me and alpaca.

In post 299, GuiltyLion wrote:then we lynch javajoe as he is most likely scum remaining. If you're opposed to that you better spend the day campaigning on who would be a better D3 lynch.

And the culmination of the shade thrown at me.....

Plus the fact that alpaca has been the only constant scum read of yours, but instead of pushing for his lynch now, you are deferring to Mcmenna who has already voted me twice and you know finds me the scummiest? You must be shaking in your chair with giddiness.

VOTE: Cass

okay, I believe at least he's scum, and then lane will have to make choices tomorrow

I do believe lane is town because if he was scum we'd autowin... don't think scum would risk that wifom

Lol, ok. Guess I only get to do this once, so might as well enjoy it.

VOTE: Cass

So, hi and bye.

yeah okay

In post 344, Cass wrote:Lol, ok. Guess I only get to do this once, so might as well enjoy it.

VOTE: Cass

So, hi and bye.

wait... what???

they scumclaimed

I suppose it's cass/guilty then

Well then....