Micro 642: Auction Mafia TOWN WINS!

[farside22]

i also have a question for you. why did you check BnL and not myself? you asked Charloux to redirect me onto BnL if he got that ability, and to cop me if he got that instead.

I checked him because of the redirector being bought for so much and Charlo said he bid on both.
I just figured it was best to check someone that had a 50/50 shot at redirecting correctly.

[farside22]

Right now I'm trying to figure out if bnl would target someone other the nc if he's town.
If so Charlo death.........
He could lie about what he did to in regards to what he did.....
Thinking

[Not Chara]

as opposed to someone with a 0% chance to redirect? (me)
did you think scum!BnL would redirect you onto him? banking on you checking me? that's the only reason i could think of for you not checking me.

[Not Chara]

I did my bid early too.
Maybe I'll be lucky and won't be outbid.

Charlo if you get the cop check nc.

I think we nlynch from here and hope for the best.

tell me when you made yesterday's bid. you were discussing plans up until Charloux said he'd already bid on both items.
why would you bid on both in the first place? your planning involved one of you picking each.

[Not Chara]

another thing: did your results mention BnL by name? or was it just a generic return of innocent, or something of that sort?

[Lucky2u]

BNL, you bought the BP for 52 and the redirector sold for 48. did you take it?

Not sure what the point of this is. If he's scum he's going to lie.

I know you didn't have the money for it and I have to think of the odds of bnl picking me and directing me.

mod: can scum use an ability and kill on the same night?

Yes

[BNL]

I didn't buy the Redirector; I bid on completely nothing last night.

@Farside: Are you saying that you didn't get the redirector?

[farside22]

I didn't buy the Redirector; I bid on completely nothing last night.

@Farside: Are you saying that you didn't get the redirector?

No.

I got a generic result of innocent.
As for making a pick I just figured if I got one that was good for the town.
I bid 23 on cop and the rest on redirector.

[BNL]

That's 27 on redir.

Tell me what the significance of 23 and 27 are. It was pretty obvious what everyone had yesterday.

Also if you don't retract the no redir claim I'm voting you in my next post, this is your last chance if you're gambiting town.

[BNL]

Right now I'm trying to figure out if bnl would target someone other the nc if he's town.
If so Charlo death.........
He could lie about what he did to in regards to what he did.....
Thinking

Also Farside forgot this:

Also I realised a problem with the breaking strategy from yesterday, scum can no kill

This is still workable, however. NC has no money left (if they're fakeclaiming, someone can counterclaim), I can promise to not bid anything today and let Farside and Charloux the Conftowns take all the PRs. Guarentees 100% town win.

[farside22]

That's 27 on redir.

Tell me what the significance of 23 and 27 are. It was pretty obvious what everyone had yesterday.

Also if you don't retract the no redir claim I'm voting you in my next post, this is your last chance if you're gambiting town.

I'm gambiting.

I got the redirect last night and targeted you to nc.

Vote: not_chara

Gg

[Not Chara]

BnL, she's lying. at least she did the work for me and just confirmed herself.
VOTE: farside
this 'gambit' is a joke. why did she gambit? from her pov, redirecting you onto me and me not dying (and Charloux dying) should have confirmed me as scum. it isn't as though there were unknown elements. she seized on the gambit because you brought it up, nothing else.

[Not Chara]

she changed her plans halfway through.
farside, i'm a bit disappointed actually. i expected to be framed, but there were ways to do it in a town way.
spending exactly 48 luck bucks on that redirector just shows you really were attempting to cast doubt on BnL at first. he had 52 left. it wasn't as though you could have beaten him by spending that strange amount.

[Not Chara]

amendment to above: BnL had 48 left, not 52. i keep getting that mixed up.
still a terrible amount to bid when you knew how much he had left and could have bid all 50, farside.
Bullet: this entire day wasn't farside gambiting. i bet you she can't explain what she was gambiting for in the first place, with a clean cut result like that. it was a survival claim because you threatened to vote her if she wasn't town gambiting.
her original plan was to cast doubt on you. i think she did it because she wasn't quite sure if you had grabbed the cop or not. it was unlikely, but possible that you hadn't listened to the plan. if she'd tried to blame me, you might have ruined it with a cop result.

that's why she opened the day like she did. what she should have done if she wanted to win was ignore that possibility and go all in to framing me.
i mean, think about it. the plan was to redirect me to you. but she changed the plan.
i asked why. she said it was to avoid the redirector messing it up. ignoring why that wouldn't make sense, she also

had

the redirector. and so we circle back to 'why did you mess with the plan'? she would have screwed Charloux's result over, had he survived.
but farside didn't think about that, because she killed him.

[farside22]

Nah I was looking for a reaction.
I would have used a lot less and tried for both items as scum.
I thought bnl redirected would prove if I was wrong about him.
NC was the one defending lane from what could have been a scum victory

[Not Chara]

looking for a reaction to what? you had the equivalent of a cop guilty. you had the redirector.
Charloux was dead. if you're town, you didn't kill him. you redirected BnL onto me, supposedly, so he didn't kill Charloux.
the only option would be me being scum, yet you pull this for no reason. no reason as town, anyway.
you changed plans partway through.
why would you try for both items as scum? it was agreed that only you and Charloux would buy items. it was simple enough for you to take one then kill Charloux to prevent the other power from messing with you. Charloux had you as nearly conftown. you knew he wouldn't use any items on you.

my being wrong about lane has nothing to do with this, but thank you for trying.

[Not Chara]

Vote Count 3.final

Charloux -
McMenno -

lane0168 (Lynched!)

- Charloux BulletNLynchproof farside22 lane0168
BulletNLynchproof

(L-2)

- Not Chara McMenno
farside22 -
Not Chara -

Not Voting -

With 6 alive it takes 4 to Lynch!

Deadline - (expired on 2016-10-11 06:00:00)

lane self-voted. planned bus.

BnL wasn't hammered here because it could have been an auto loss for farside and lane. a quick hammer would have outed both as scum, and the night abilities could easily have prevented a win.

it's a good thing Charloux didn't listen to me on BnL, though.

[farside22]

Things to remember with lane is how he defended dark (now nc) and when votes went on to lane, NC started to back off and give lane a chance to survive despite Lanes really bad reasoning.

[farside22]

Vote Count 3.final

Charloux -
McMenno -

lane0168 (Lynched!)

- Charloux BulletNLynchproof farside22 lane0168
BulletNLynchproof

(L-2)

- Not Chara McMenno
farside22 -
Not Chara -

Not Voting -

With 6 alive it takes 4 to Lynch!

Deadline - (expired on 2016-10-11 06:00:00)

lane self-voted. planned bus.

BnL wasn't hammered here because it could have been an auto loss for farside and lane. a quick hammer would have outed both as scum, and the night abilities could easily have prevented a win.

it's a good thing Charloux didn't listen to me on BnL, though.

Also I didn't vote bnl, both mcmenno and nc were on the bnl wagon.
When bnl voted lane I thought what I was feeling about lane was correct, changing to bnl would have been better if I was scum.
This is just bad hypothetically bs from scum.

[Not Chara]

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[Not Chara]

ha? my god, i actually did accidentally post that?

anyway, farside. i don't have anything else to say. BnL can read what i've written. the proof is in your behaviour today.

[farside22]

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I need to change mine.

[farside22]

Anyways the behavior between lane and nc and the interaction alone is scummy, but the redirect on bnl from me proves he's town.
NC said they got the watch ability and never said anything about bnl targeting Charlo.

[Not Chara]

no one targeted Charloux.
auction bids aren't night actions, they resolve during the day.

[farside22]

no one targeted Charloux.
auction bids aren't night actions, they resolve during the day.

BNL said he gifted Charlo the bp.