Open 656- Tit For Tat - Endgame

[Harkonnen97]

@mod

eagersnake is due a prod

[Harkonnen97]

look guise D1 reads are never that good

stop being such perfectionists - "i shall vote only for the scummiest of scum, and protect the innocent xd" and pls cooperate

[Harkonnen97]

ook guise

and gals

[The_Jester]

eagerSnake has been prodded.

[eagerSnake]

I'm cop with guilty on everyone

[eagerSnake]

/jk

[farside22]

[Fire Assassin]

Was I supposed to respond to something here?

[Gamma Emerald]

Was I supposed to respond to something here?

probably not

[Fire Assassin]

One day I will remember to preview my post, fa the top quote was because I wanted to see what your scum reads are.

None besides Texcat.
Who has some scummy posts.

[texcat]

I'm still happy with my vote on FireA. He keeps saying that I have scummy posts, but won't point even one out or say why he thinks it's scummy

[Firebringer]

The name is Fire Ass. Get it right.

[Gamma Emerald]

@FA: who do think is scum with texcat?

[Fire Assassin]

The name is Fire Ass. Get it right.

The illusion is gone.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yup.
Fire Assassin is a Firebringer alt.

[Fire Assassin]

Well Fancy Pants, Eager Snake, Alban, and Harkan are town.
That leaves possible allies for Texcat within:

Persephone, NJAC, Gamma Emerald (leaning town so doubt it), Yuria, and Farside.

Lets say its Persephone and Farside for now.

[Fire Assassin]

Yup.
Fire Assassin is a Firebringer alt.

Its mind blowing, isn't it.
To this day people are shocked.

[farside22]

You make my head hurt fa.

I've asked 3 times why text is scum.

[The_Jester]

Looking for a replacement for alban

[Fire Assassin]

You make my head hurt fa.

I've asked 3 times why text is scum.

Fine, let me go over what little there is to show you what I am seeing.

[Fire Assassin]

Spoiler: Texcat Case

What in 5 posts is giving you such a strong scumread?

Its not, its a good wagon though. Do you have a reason why its not?

I don't understand this at all. What makes it a good wagon? I guess I don't understand what makes a good wagon if it's not a strong scumread.

This is what really tripped me up when I was looking into texcat and I can't believe no one else really thought about this post.
Whats wrong with it? Look at the number.
Look at what they are saying.
53. Still RVS. Still not serious.

Texcat talking about not forming a wagon unless its a strong scumread sounds like scum who doesn't know what to do but be timid. She wants to appear to be doing something and wants town posts, questioning posts. This is like such an easy move scum do all the time in beginning of games. They play dumb. Its like "well why are we doing this again?" cause they don't get the mood of the early game.

The weirdest thing about this post to me though is just that almost sounds like a newbie scum posted.

VOTE: FancyPants
It was odd that Hark called him town off one or two posts. But even odder to me that Fancy didn't question it.

Also I'm not wild about FireAssasin's entry and leap onto the Alban wagon without anything else. But I'm willing to give him another post.

Theres so many problems with the approach to me in this post.
First off, says theres a problem with my entry into the game. Jumping on a wagon (which at the time was essentially me doing RVS because I wasn't out of that phase), it was very easy to critique someone joining a wagon. She decided to take a newcomer which was a bad move, because the game wasn't totally serious but looked like she needed to start getting serious.

Then she leaves open an exit door so she can leave it be, "I am willing to give him another post", that sounds classical manipulation tactic.

Is it my responsibility to question everyone who town reads me? Sounds exhausting and a watse of time, especially since I know he's right.

Now do I give him town cred for town reading me? Not at all, scum can town read just as easily, town reading someone is pretty NAI, at least until the bigger picture is revealed.

If you are town, it is your responsibility to scum hunt. I think that questioning town reads is a good way to do that. I might agree that town reading someone is pretty NAI, but think that's why it's important to try to see why the town read. The motive and thoughts and reasoning behind the town read are more likely AI.

I half questioned if I should actually bring this into my quote of my "case against texcat" but I decided to throw it in anyway. This is like a explanation on how to play without getting into what is actually going on with the game. I know I do it too, where I talk about strategy/theory/howtoplay but you need STANCES. And you need to say more than information. This is all information.

It was odd that Hark called him town off one or two posts. But even odder to me that Fancy didn't question it.

first of all - no, it wasnt odd that he didnt question my townread
second of all - do u think that odd = scum?

Perhaps odd is a rather inexact word. I meant that it was not normally what I would expect a town person to do. And I do note that does not mean that it is what I would expect a scum to do.

Backtracking. At least now that called on a position in which they called someone odd without going into detail has to now give some actual stance, but not a real one. You can see "not what a town would do, I don't think that is what a scum would do either" is saying NAI.

I would say prod dodge, but there isn't alot of content for me to dodge.

First off.
Fancy Pants is town.
Eager Snake is town.

Small scum leans on Texcat and Yuria.

Would you care to explain any of these?

If you are town, it is your responsibility to scum hunt. I think that questioning town reads is a good way to do that.

why didnt

you

question my townread then? following ur own logic, wouldn't town!texcat do that?

Yep. But Alban had already asked you about it, and I didn't repeat the question, but I might have if you had town read me on one post.

89 was me sheeping Texcat, plain and simple.

Yuck. Why would you sheep me???

VOTE: Fire Assassin
His second post wasn't any better than his first.

Not really scummy, there is a bit of hypocrisy here. The big issues are that none of Texcat reads are explained or even shown. I have explained what my stances are on players. Texcat has not explained a single stance she has had. For instance, does she townread Fancypants? I have no clue. Theres huge lack of meaningful interaction with players and it shows here.

What's the hurry? Are you worried that with a little more time everyone will recognize you for the scum that you are?

This is one of the most scummiest post to date.
Theres a level of self assuredness in here that should be completely absent in a player who is actually trying to make reads here.

Its that level of how sure should I present my reads. Texcat feigns that she is sure about her read on me, while giving no other reason to scumread me beyond the fact I was pushing her. She doesn't dive into any of my posts and explain what she sees is wrong with them or what she thinks is scummy (she does do fail questions a few times) but if she is as confident as she would appear here, it would show in other areas, which it doesn't.

Its a fake read.

[Harkonnen97]

are u familiar with texcat's meta?

[Fire Assassin]

are u familiar with texcat's meta?

I have played a game with texcat a very long time ago, but none of what she has done has ever stuck out to me.
You can explain it for me if you like.

I am not interested in looking up a game that is probably over 6 month old.

[Harkonnen97]

texcat is a VI
it looks like ur case on her doesnt take that into consideration

[Harkonnen97]

48 hours left ffs

what are you people doing???

if njas is a PR we will end up in a nolynch.