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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:40 am

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meh now i have to read the spoilers
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:41 am

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yay im wrong about kuroi again
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:01 am

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Spoiler:
I'm not unahppy with how my reads were

I do have to wonder though why the hell N_M didn't claim ascetic

honestly, he probably forgot about it :/
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:43 am

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Before I read this, calling Titus as scum. Partner undecided.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:45 am

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So NM was ascetic and Kyurem was blocked?
Damn! Lol He still should have claimed it tho.

Bp-maker is cool!

And I totally called Titus!
*pats self on back*
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:55 pm

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My TR on the Maria slot was solely based off Jae's play. She's been compeletely useless.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:03 pm

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BP townies will become unlynchable after they claim, Dav will become unlynchable as well. Kuror was Ckd's counter wagon on day 1. Should not be Lynched earlier than many other people. NM is the moonstone.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:08 pm

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Why did I get no result when I tracked Titus?
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:08 pm

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probably because you died
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:13 pm

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It clearly stated I would have got a no result if I had remained alive. So idk.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:33 pm

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I honestly think town need more power in this setup. Scum have a counter to all town's PRs. A strong willed two shot cop/GS and an IC would probably be closer to balance.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:03 pm

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Jk is negative utility because of the strongman. It can prevent bp maker by targeting cleafairy or mess with our tracker.
In favour of rolestopper > JK

Radja please get a better reviewer next time :P someone like mastin2
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:08 pm

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I mean, the Strongman is only 2 shot. With the likelihood of other BPs and the JK, I think that's reasonable.

Moonstone is cool, and the Tracker,had it not had to claim, could have been quite helpful.

Also, NM being Ascetic is good for overall balance. I think it's a pretty decent setup tbh.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:14 pm

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In post 87, Aristophanes wrote:
Spoiler:
I mean, the Strongman is only 2 shot. With the likelihood of other BPs and the JK, I think that's reasonable.

Moonstone is cool, and the Tracker,had it not had to claim, could have been quite helpful.

Also, NM being Ascetic is good for overall balance. I think it's a pretty decent setup tbh.
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This is where you are wrong about "balance", I was doing the same mistake before. Have you modded a mini normal before? Balance is that town need viable ways of finding scum at night. In this setup there is no way town can do that. Smoker causes investigative failure and jk even if it targets the right player cannot stop the kill because of the strongman. Basically town can go 3 nights without any useful info from night. Which is terrible.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:01 pm

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Holy shit, I forgot Snarky was still in this game!
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:19 am

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In post 82, Shadow_step wrote:Why did I get no result when I tracked Titus?
because Titus was targeted by the jailkeeper
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:20 am

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In post 90, Radja wrote:
In post 82, Shadow_step wrote:Why did I get no result when I tracked Titus?
because Titus was targeted by the jailkeeper
Hmm maybe you should have gotten a result actually.

Well I suppose it doesn't matter since you're dead... :shifty:
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:25 am

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In post 86, Shadow_step wrote:Jk is negative utility because of the strongman. It can prevent bp maker by targeting cleafairy or mess with our tracker.
In favour of rolestopper > JK

Radja please get a better reviewer next time :P someone like mastin2
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He could block kills, the tracker or the smoker. 2 out of 3 of those are scum roles. So I disagree :P

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What if the Moonstone dies on day 1. What if the strongman dies on day 1. Both roles have a huge effect for scum/town. In the end, it's all about who plays the better game. So I don't mind having a game not right in the middle.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:30 am

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In post 80, Shadow_step wrote:My TR on the Maria slot was solely based off Jae's play. She's been compeletely useless.
<3 I wish I didn't have to replace out. But it is what it is I guess.

Spoiler:
I was actually terrified the whole time. It was my first time really rolling scum. BBT was really nice about my freaking out though. I'm glad I didn't screw the slot over because I was almost certain that I was being really obvious about it! So thanks for the compliment :)
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:35 am

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In post 92, Radja wrote:
In post 86, Shadow_step wrote:Jk is negative utility because of the strongman. It can prevent bp maker by targeting cleafairy or mess with our tracker.
In favour of rolestopper > JK

Radja please get a better reviewer next time :P someone like mastin2
The jailkeeper can't prevent the evolving, because the Moonstone is ascetic.
He could block kills, the tracker or the smoker. 2 out of 3 of those are scum roles. So I disagree :P

Either way, my first priority is a fun game, which I think it is. There's too many variables to balance a game.
What if the Moonstone dies on day 1. What if the strongman dies on day 1. Both roles have a huge effect for scum/town. In the end, it's all about who plays the better game. So I don't mind having a game not right in the middle.
I mean that's par for the course I think with certain roles being in the game. There's just a lot of swing potential here that it's really hard to balance around. I think the main part is that the players have fun in the moment they're playing, regardless of the actual balance.

Like, even if the setup is unbalanced, I think so long as the players while they're in the game don't feel that way, then it's fine.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:38 am

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you did great, Jae, i also townread you
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:42 am

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In post 92, Radja wrote:
In post 86, Shadow_step wrote:Jk is negative utility because of the strongman. It can prevent bp maker by targeting cleafairy or mess with our tracker.
In favour of rolestopper > JK

Radja please get a better reviewer next time :P someone like mastin2
The jailkeeper can't prevent the evolving, because the Moonstone is ascetic.
He could block kills, the tracker or the smoker. 2 out of 3 of those are scum roles. So I disagree :P

Either way, my first priority is a fun game, which I think it is. There's too many variables to balance a game.
What if the Moonstone dies on day 1. What if the strongman dies on day 1. Both roles have a huge effect for scum/town. In the end, it's all about who plays the better game. So I don't mind having a game not right in the middle.
Yes but when balancing you don't take into account what happens if scum fuck up day 1 and lose their strongman then they absolutely deserve to be destroyed by town. Vice versa if the tracker/jk get lynched day 1 then it's town's fault.

Jk can block kills but in a mini where games can be over by day 4-5, and a 2 shot strongman. The JK needs to target the right scum and needs to be alive for too long atleast day 4 which is asking too much imo.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:47 am

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RK is the only one playing properly so I'm guessing they get killed tonight.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:15 am

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Radja what would happen if RK was targeted for the kill and also for the evolution the same night? She'd evolve and lose the 1 shot bp?
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:18 am

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Yes I think. Because of how the actions are resolved.
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