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In post 1719, SpyreX wrote:I dont trust the first real heat coming from you in lylo. You've been fairly chill and that smells fake but gdi pisskop.

If I can't get fed up with ridiculous bullshit at LYLO, then when CAN I get fed up with it?

And also this is NOT the first time I have lost my cool this game. Did you forget how mad I got at MOI on day 3?

Can't tell if Socrates is legitimately pissed or grandstanding.

Is there another missing nightkill?

KuroiXHF wrote:Can't tell if Socrates is legitimately pissed or grandstanding.

Oh, I assure you, it is the former. I'm going to now walk away from my computer to go cool off.

Titus wrote:Is there another missing nightkill?

No.

Actually, before I leave, the thought just occurred to me that there might, in fact, actually be a serial killer in our midst, and between all of the protective roles in this game we might have just fluked our way into 1 kill a night the whole game!

Thats odd from a mechanics perspective and a flavor perspective

In post 1728, Socrates wrote:

KuroiXHF wrote:Can't tell if Socrates is legitimately pissed or grandstanding.

Oh, I assure you, it is the former. I'm going to now walk away from my computer to go cool off.

Titus wrote:Is there another missing nightkill?

No.

The fact that you responded did not reassure me. If anything, it may have worked in the other direction.

In post 1719, SpyreX wrote:I dont trust the first real heat coming from you in lylo. You've been fairly chill and that smells fake but gdi pisskop

However i reaaaly dont get mois questions yesterday and i think this is gonna come down to what happened the last two nights

@mod:
Does a bp know when theyve lost their bp?

I cannot answer this question.

errr socrates

you got some splainin to do

DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1719, SpyreX wrote:I dont trust the first real heat coming from you in lylo. You've been fairly chill and that smells fake but gdi pisskop

However i reaaaly dont get mois questions yesterday and i think this is gonna come down to what happened the last two nights

@mod:
Does a bp know when theyve lost their bp?

I cannot answer this question.

Uhhhhh.....

In post 1090, DiamondSentinel wrote:

In post 1087, Socrates wrote:And maybe you DID try to use it.

Do bulletproofs get notified when their BP is used up?

I'm assuming this is directed at me.

Yes.

I was about to write this big apology post about how I let myself vent my frustration about real life issues in the game thread and how I was sorry I acted so childish, but am I about to have a whole reason to be pissed off?

Like, if the mod forgot that he already answered this question in the affirmative and then, further, changed his policy mid-game and didn't tell pisskop, that would completely explain pisskop's behavior yesterday and be the biggest mod-fuckup I've ever seen.

Please tell me this isn't what happened.

So we need to get DS’s conflicting treatment of BP status out of the way ASAP.

– Please clarify the status of BP being used is informed of the BP holder (1090 versus 1732). If Pisskop was operating under the assumption he would be informed when his 1Shot was used given the first statement then I have an issue with how things potentially resolved (not knowing what actually happened).

I also agree Socrates’s outrage looks manufactured.

Also pretty much once DS clears up the BP issue I’m likely plopping my vote down on Titus and never moving it if the game continues.

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In post 1718, Socrates wrote:If Pisskop falseclears a member of the scum team on shit logic, then we're done! That's game over! Trying to make sure he had actually thought things through before declaring Kuroi as town is the MOST Pro-town thing to do.

No, it wasn’t the MOST Pro-Town thing to do. Pisskop may be a player who does kooky stuff as Town but he’s not incompetent enough to fake-clear Kuroi (at least from the understanding he was operating under). Poking and prodding his claim when he went out of his way to be as obscuring as possible was not Pro-Town.

If anything I get the sense you are trying to undermine Kuroi’s status as cleared via Pisskop. Now if the Mod screwed up and didn’t give Pisskop the information he previously said he did – that’s a game compromising Mod error that I don’t think can be overcome and that will come out in due course.

In post 1729, Socrates wrote:Actually, before I leave, the thought just occurred to me that there might, in fact, actually be a serial killer in our midst, and between all of the protective roles in this game we might have just fluked our way into 1 kill a night the whole game!

If that is the case they are literally the worst Serial Killer in history. A more sane conclusion is that likely DS screwed things up on BP communications.

In post 1737, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So we need to get DS’s conflicting treatment of BP status out of the way ASAP.

@Mod

– Please clarify the status of BP being used is informed of the BP holder (1090 versus 1732). If Pisskop was operating under the assumption he would be informed when his 1Shot was used given the first statement then I have an issue with how things potentially resolved (not knowing what actually happened).

I also agree Socrates’s outrage looks manufactured.

Also pretty much once DS clears up the BP issue I’m likely plopping my vote down on Titus and never moving it if the game continues.

I cannot clarify it at this time. I apologize about this, but I will admit, the discrepancy is a mod error. Its nature and reasoning will be explained post-game.

In post 1738, DiamondSentinel wrote:I cannot clarify it at this time. I apologize about this, but I will admit, the discrepancy is a mod error. Its nature and reasoning will be explained post-game.

Can't say as I'm thrilled with this response as it could have an absolutely material effect on the game.

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VOTE: Titus

There. Done. Now we can wait.

I'm fairly certain that Titus is scum. I've mentioned before that LLD's Neighborhood behavior (specifically saying she was using it to 'sort me' but not trying to really interact with me / get a sense of my alignment at all) doesn't make sense as Town. Shadow played as I expected scum Shadow to play. And Titus's "Oh, I don't re-read it is against how I play" stance is pretty ludicrous given the entire LLD / me PT is literally a page long. Spyrex can speak to his experience with LLD himself. I'm guessing that there have been no further Neighborizations because after Camn's Town flip with a limited Neighborization power Scum Titus doesn't want it further examined by any other Town players.

So I've cast a vote in LYLO. One of two things happen ...

1. Scum coordinate quickhammer. Which means Spyrex / Socrates.
2. No quickhammer comes. From which we can determine that one of (or at least one of but from my perspective it can only be one) us is scum and the rest of Town decides who they would rather lynch.

In post 1737, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So we need to get DS’s conflicting treatment of BP status out of the way ASAP.

@Mod

– Please clarify the status of BP being used is informed of the BP holder (1090 versus 1732). If Pisskop was operating under the assumption he would be informed when his 1Shot was used given the first statement then I have an issue with how things potentially resolved (not knowing what actually happened).

I also agree Socrates’s outrage looks manufactured.

Also pretty much once DS clears up the BP issue I’m likely plopping my vote down on Titus and never moving it if the game continues.

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In post 1718, Socrates wrote:If Pisskop falseclears a member of the scum team on shit logic, then we're done! That's game over! Trying to make sure he had actually thought things through before declaring Kuroi as town is the MOST Pro-town thing to do.

No, it wasn’t the MOST Pro-Town thing to do. Pisskop may be a player who does kooky stuff as Town but he’s not incompetent enough to fake-clear Kuroi (at least from the understanding he was operating under). Poking and prodding his claim when he went out of his way to be as obscuring as possible was not Pro-Town.

If anything I get the sense you are trying to undermine Kuroi’s status as cleared via Pisskop. Now if the Mod screwed up and didn’t give Pisskop the information he previously said he did – that’s a game compromising Mod error that I don’t think can be overcome and that will come out in due course.

In post 1729, Socrates wrote:Actually, before I leave, the thought just occurred to me that there might, in fact, actually be a serial killer in our midst, and between all of the protective roles in this game we might have just fluked our way into 1 kill a night the whole game!

If that is the case they are literally the worst Serial Killer in history. A more sane conclusion is that likely DS screwed things up on BP communications.

Voting me, regardless of the mod clarification while flinging shit is not a good look on you MoI.

VOTE: Moi

Just tell me which of Spyrex or Socrates is your partner.

VOTE: MoI

I agree with Titus on this. I think Socrates and MoI is the scum team, but I'm not quite sure I can get the Socrates push I'd like, and I'm more confident in MoI scum.

We can talk about this in the hood Kuroi if MoI's posts don't tell us.

I think Spyrex but I am not betting the farm on that one.

Reserved for VC. Until I can format it (since I'm currently on mobile), the count right now is

Titus [1] - MoI
MoI [2] - Titus, KuroiXHF

Hammer is 3 votes.

In post 1740, Titus wrote:

In post 1737, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So we need to get DS’s conflicting treatment of BP status out of the way ASAP.

@Mod

– Please clarify the status of BP being used is informed of the BP holder (1090 versus 1732). If Pisskop was operating under the assumption he would be informed when his 1Shot was used given the first statement then I have an issue with how things potentially resolved (not knowing what actually happened).

I also agree Socrates’s outrage looks manufactured.

Also pretty much once DS clears up the BP issue I’m likely plopping my vote down on Titus and never moving it if the game continues.

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In post 1718, Socrates wrote:If Pisskop falseclears a member of the scum team on shit logic, then we're done! That's game over! Trying to make sure he had actually thought things through before declaring Kuroi as town is the MOST Pro-town thing to do.

No, it wasn’t the MOST Pro-Town thing to do. Pisskop may be a player who does kooky stuff as Town but he’s not incompetent enough to fake-clear Kuroi (at least from the understanding he was operating under). Poking and prodding his claim when he went out of his way to be as obscuring as possible was not Pro-Town.

If anything I get the sense you are trying to undermine Kuroi’s status as cleared via Pisskop. Now if the Mod screwed up and didn’t give Pisskop the information he previously said he did – that’s a game compromising Mod error that I don’t think can be overcome and that will come out in due course.

In post 1729, Socrates wrote:Actually, before I leave, the thought just occurred to me that there might, in fact, actually be a serial killer in our midst, and between all of the protective roles in this game we might have just fluked our way into 1 kill a night the whole game!

If that is the case they are literally the worst Serial Killer in history. A more sane conclusion is that likely DS screwed things up on BP communications.

Voting me, regardless of the mod clarification while flinging shit is not a good look on you MoI.

VOTE: Moi

Just tell me which of Spyrex or Socrates is your partner.

In post 1741, KuroiXHF wrote:VOTE: MoI

I agree with Titus on this. I think Socrates and MoI is the scum team, but I'm not quite sure I can get the Socrates push I'd like, and I'm more confident in MoI scum.

So I'm pretty sure we have the scum team right here ...

But let's see if Spyrex or Socrates swoop in for the quickhammer. Frankly after the debacle with pisskop I'd welcome the game being over so post-game dissection can begin.

So you're claiming Pisskop lied about clearing Kuroi? Why would he?

Which of Spyrex or Socrates is scum if you could only pick one? Why?

In post 1745, Titus wrote:So you're claiming Pisskop lied about clearing Kuroi? Why would he?

Which of Spyrex or Socrates is scum if you could only pick one? Why?

Because Pisskop was operating under faulty assumptions - that he would be informed when his BP was used.

I mean you benefit from Kuroi being falsely cleared so you are going to stand on "why would he lie" when that's a false stance since it wasn't a lie. Pisskop simply had bad information and drew bad conclusions from it.

Given you and Kuroi benefit it makes sense you are trying to get me to finger a Townie here in LYLO.

So we're scum because we think you're scum?

This makes a ton of sense.

In post 1748, Socrates wrote:VOTE: Magna

Congrats to scum on the win ...

Words to follow regarding the Modding snafu ...