Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:59 pm
Soc managed to in every coinflip we had pick right. Nacho, jae? Him. Soc for victory 2017
Well, the only thing that made it implausible was the fact that you had 3 scum members. When I originally made this, I had considered making 2 scum with a traitor and a (sorta) SK. The SK would have really just been some special self-aligned role, but I couldn't really find a good way to fit a 3P into this small a game.In post 1798, Socrates wrote:I'm fine with the scum topic being revealed. The only thing I'm really embarrassed to be seen is when I drunkenly speculated that Kraska was a traitor. I was less than sober when I said that.
You did the right thing, to be honest, and literally everyone in the town should have picked up on it converged on you. Camn did, props to her, but both Uzi and pisskop himself should have wanted to use their protection on you, but then Uzi got lynched and Pisskop didn't submit any action. You copped good in the context of this setup, it was really the rest of the town that let you down.In post 1796, JaeReed wrote:Honestly, I half knew pisskop was town because I was playing with him and dunn as scum in another game at the same time.In post 1789, Socrates wrote:And Jae, yes, your cop breadcrumb was incredibly obvious, and is more or less the only reason you got killed. The way you expanded your argument to not lynch any of the robots threw me for a bit about whether you were more than just a cop, but the fact that you were an information role was undeniable.
But I knew I wasn't likely to stop a lynch on pisskop without having the inno result, and I don't lie as town. It gave him enough time to get conftowned by Dunn and I was hoping he'd do a little more because I have seen him pull off some good plays. It just wasn't meant to be
So, I won't say strictly "never lie as an innocent". However, be a bit smarter with your role.In post 1803, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Didn't really suspect Spy much at all but I knew Soc was scum, I just couldn't put a good argument together outside of him making a big deal about Jae.
Oh and sorry for lying.
haha i was checking in to listen to/vote on the songcontest stuff but then saw the gameover PMIn post 1792, DiamondSentinel wrote:WAIT A SECOND!
You're not gone! That's cool!
Just taking a break from games?
lol......well considering how terrible my play was thats not really an outrageous idea to haveIn post 1798, Socrates wrote:I'm fine with the scum topic being revealed. The only thing I'm really embarrassed to be seen is when I drunkenly speculated that Kraska was a traitor. I was less than sober when I said that.
I don’t care that Town was “fucked” the way you handled (or specifically didn’t handle) your incorrect statement made a tangible effect on the game. And saying “What would you have done differently to pisskop” is a poor response.In post 1756, DiamondSentinel wrote:Ok, so here's the issue that came up.
Originally, when I said that pisskop would know he was shot at, I forgot that MagnaofIllusion had a permanent bulletproof. pisskop was originally supposed to be the only bulletproof that would be aware of being shot.
However, I will just say. Town was already thoroughly fucked by the time that came around.
The number of times lying as a Town player works out to Town’s benefit are overwhelmingly outnumbered by the number of times it hurts Town.In post 1804, DiamondSentinel wrote:So, I won't say strictly "never lie as an innocent". However, be a bit smarter with your role.
Sorry … I guess …
Mafia 101 – provable role does not equal provable alignment.In post 1789, Socrates wrote:Camn was so super-duper-mega town that it boggles my mind that we were able to get her lynched. And she had a provable ability! And was about to shoot scum! And we had no way to stop her!
And Uzi was provable as well! And he got lynched too!
This explains in a nutshell why despite all the “Oh self-voting is a Town tell” it absolutely is Anti-Town play.In post 87, JaeReed wrote:But if camn thinks MoI is scum then she should never self on account of him. Because it's the kind of move that a hypothetical scum!MoI would delight in having caused.
Disagree and you can see why with my comments on Jae’s Day 1 readslists. Without detailed explanations of what each tier signifies and why players move between tiers then they are just effective fluff and a good way for scum to hide and pretending to give content. And I have yet to see anyone actually do a readslist with all that accompanying it.In post 94, pirate mollie wrote:and yeah pple don't seem to be fans about doing readslists anymore. I find it hugely beneficial tho.
My objections were sheerly based on his poor setup design. He advertised the game as non-bastard, yet we had an alignment change, unknown wincon, and we were only immune to one of the 13(?) kills in the entire game.In post 1806, MagnaofIllusion wrote:I don’t care that Town was “fucked” the way you handled (or specifically didn’t handle) your incorrect statement made a tangible effect on the game. And saying “What would you have done differently to pisskop” is a poor response.In post 1756, DiamondSentinel wrote:Ok, so here's the issue that came up.
Originally, when I said that pisskop would know he was shot at, I forgot that MagnaofIllusion had a permanent bulletproof. pisskop was originally supposed to be the only bulletproof that would be aware of being shot.
However, I will just say. Town was already thoroughly fucked by the time that came around.
Frankly having observed the objections you threw at Shos after his GTA game I expected for you to have a better handle on your game and mechanics than you did.
THANKS MAGNAOFILLUSIONIn post 1789, Socrates wrote:Camn was so super-duper-mega town that it boggles my mind that we were able to get her lynched. And she had a provable ability! And was about to shoot scum! And we had no way to stop her!
WAIT A SECOND!In post 1807, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Also camn I fully return your </3.
All good man! I hope you get your groove back!In post 1801, I Am Innocent wrote:Well played soc and spy. Sorry my play was so bad. aristo, I left you in a really crappy spot. It's like I've forgotten how to play as scum or something...
I honestly don't know what is wrong with me when I roll scum. I really have to work on this, because my meta has been glaringly obvious. With very few exceptions my scumgame is weak AF!In post 1806, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Again congrats to the scum team. Those not named Aristo did a great job of basically staying out of the way as Town slugged itself to death. Which, basically, is the goal of a Mafia team.
In post 1815, camn wrote:It's cute.
XDIn post 1816, camn wrote:Everyone's like, "ha ha look at Aristo he rolled scum".
Ah, memories.In post 1818, Fate wrote:glad I didn't replace in
still don't have the heart to get SpyreX
but I owe Socrates revenge from 6 years ago PYP
I'm sorry, if I had known that you struggle with playing scum I would have made more effort to give you support in the PT. Spy and I weren't talking to each other much because there was little need, but I can see how that might feel a bit intimidating to a fresh replacement.In post 1814, Aristophanes wrote:All good man! I hope you get your groove back!In post 1801, I Am Innocent wrote:Well played soc and spy. Sorry my play was so bad. aristo, I left you in a really crappy spot. It's like I've forgotten how to play as scum or something...
I didn't do the slot any good anyway, so that's on me too!
I honestly don't know what is wrong with me when I roll scum. I really have to work on this, because my meta has been glaringly obvious. With very few exceptions my scumgame is weak AF!In post 1806, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Again congrats to the scum team. Those not named Aristo did a great job of basically staying out of the way as Town slugged itself to death. Which, basically, is the goal of a Mafia team.
You cleared a town, pk. It didn't hurt you. If anything, it helped town.In post 1822, pisskop wrote:jswac
im not counting this game because i based my reads on what the mod directly said.
he lied
therefore this game is bastard.
i would not have cleared kuroi had the mod not.lied, and there's every chance we could have vcaed out kuroi or even i.could have read.
so, no real offense, but this mod error fuckered the game.