Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[Dunnstral]

I wonder what vecna and twie think of all this. I've certainly got nothing more to say until they get back into the thread.

[Dunnstral]

Does vecna and grey make sense as scum together? That's kind of what I'm thinking now

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: -Grey-

[Dunnstral]

I have to be the second lynch of the day or we lose it.

That's you?

Rather, we have 2 lynches today?

Fine,
VOTE: Vecna

[Dunnstral]

Vecna isn't an easy lynch

[Dunnstral]

I think you've bee banking on that town-cred this whole time and now are just waiting it out)

how am I waiting anything out

[Dunnstral]

I said it feels like you're "fishing for the easiest"

that makes the "ease" s relative thing, and not meaning "easy" at all

I think you get my meaning...

Not really, why wouldn't I be trying to get someone else lynched

You realize you're next

if

I flip town?

Lol, you still think I slip as scum?

[Dunnstral]

I know what you mean, but we cannot draw conclusions from it yet. The same reasoning could be applied to Grey's alignment if you know what I mean - But lets not discuss this any further

Do you guys intend to reveal your super secret alignment info before or after these lynches go through

[Dunnstral]

I know what you mean, but we cannot draw conclusions from it yet. The same reasoning could be applied to Grey's alignment if you know what I mean - But lets not discuss this any further

Do you guys intend to reveal your super secret alignment info before or after these lynches go through

Stop fishing

It's pretty much lylo

[Dunnstral]

Scum is in Gerry/Grey/TWIE/Dreal

Like if you think there's 3 or so people who can't be scum, you're not giving scum a nightkill, you're helping town get itself together

UNVOTE:

You should reveal that information so I know what I'm doing

[Dunnstral]

Because I'm pretty lost

[Dunnstral]

and I should be the most blatant town out there by now, but scum wouldnt do it after townreading me all game long.

I was getting town feels on drealmerz but maybe I'm wrong. Other people have said drealmerz is town from secret neighborhood stuff and you seem to disagree

[Dunnstral]

Grey I'd like you to explain how I "scummed it up" and so you stopped responding in hearts neighborhood

[Dunnstral]

so either they hadn't realized that or they didn't feel the need to confirm me as town, even post-death since I don't flip right away

VOTE: Gerry

I'm done trying to work with these guys

[Dunnstral]

Oh ya, better unvote me guys

[Dunnstral]

Oh its happening, just not the first lynch

?

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Drealmerz7

This is what I want most actually, If nobodies going to explain anything I'll assume it's dumb and I was right to begin with.

[Dunnstral]

Maxous you need to rethink your read on me

[Dunnstral]

They made LUV kill Spyrex of all people lol.

-I'm very lynchable

-Gerry is too, but could also be scum. I've thought this through

with that said, I'd have just shot gerry in his position if gerry were indeed town

[Dunnstral]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Dunnstral]

Theres some other reason for it as well.

We're basically in lylo already

[Dunnstral]

The part where I die anyway instead of people getting off me

but yes, there's no benefit to lynching me over letting scum kill someone to lynch me



until we run out of time

[Dunnstral]

I want to hear agreement that drealmerz gets lynched at some point, preferrably NOW or after me

[Dunnstral]

I don't even know why people are voting me, unless they still think I slipped

Grey, what's the reasoning behind your scumread?

[Dunnstral]

77 - -Grey- - Kd, 8h, 10h
5 - gerryoat KH, KC, 3D
5 - Fishythefish 4c, Js (gone), 2c (gone)
13 - Maxous - Ah, 3h, 5h
17 - drealmerz7 - 9h, 3h
2 - Vecna - Ad, 6d
2 - Dunnstral - 2d, 4s, 7h
12 - TWIE 5c, 9c (missed 8s)

@fishy:

i don't see your cards argument...who is left in the game that has pro-scum cards?

drealmerz is lynchproof on hearts...

[Dunnstral]

AND HIS OTHER CARD HAS STRONGMAN

[Dunnstral]

I was just about to say - scum team might be drealmerz and maxous.

If you guys lynch maxous after me, get drealmerz after. Or vice versa. I think I'ms ettled on that now

[Dunnstral]

Scum is in Gerry/Grey/TWIE/Dreal

Do you have reasons to townread maxous

I have no desire to go after twie - In fact if there's 3 town on me right now I'd probably prefer to lose.

[Dunnstral]

Dunnstral, what do you think of the possibility of Vecna plus one of {Maxous/drealmerz}?

UNVOTE:

I want to think that vecna is town - so the other two being lynched would be nice

drealmerz is prob best lynch, look at his cards. People townreading him because he has inventory and neighborizor - what good does inventory do, really? Neighborizor is great on scum. The other 2 parts are lynchproof on hearts and strongman on hearts which is plenty scum motivated, especially when his cards have something "towny" attached to it

[Dunnstral]

who cares if he considers twie as scum? And it's good that he's considering it

[Dunnstral]

If vecna is scum i don't see why he needs to cast doubt on twie at this point in order to win

[Dunnstral]

Yeah I have pretty good reasons to townread him, and also a pretty good way of detecting if he's scum or not.

oh, maxous?



Then it's drealmerz and someone else

[Dunnstral]

not considering the possibility of a bus is very short sighted. Like the rest of your play in general

[Dunnstral]

But that's not true, and I explained how it's not true

[Dunnstral]

Well, good luck guys. I'm done posting I think

[Dunnstral]

(expired on 2017-02-01 07:27:00)

[Dunnstral]

Hey maxous, should I self vote?

[Dunnstral]

Dreal - absolutely not.

why

[Dunnstral]

Well, I don't care anymore. He's scum though

[Dunnstral]

he's my preferred speedlynch tomorrow if it comes to that.

Who? Vecna?

It's not him dude

[Dunnstral]

Yeah luckily you guys are better at not slipping than me; the secret is actually not to post any content at all

[Dunnstral]

...?

[Dunnstral]

Somebody needs to unvote me

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I figure they knew

whoever is mafia is not dumb

drealmerz is scummmm

[Dunnstral]

scum just tried to get me lynched. same people who killed spyrex.

[Dunnstral]

seriously though unvote me, if nothing else to let fishy and vecana come out with their info

[Dunnstral]

I wonder if another scum fake claimed cards and they were afraid of drawing a 9.
Or they were afraid of drawing a 5 i.e. a watcher.
..Actually the 9 seems more likely.
Who has cards that haven't been proven?

Hey; why are you still voting me?

[Dunnstral]

I don't know why scum knowing of it and having some master plan is more likely than them not knowing, slipping up by trying to hammer me in, and not wanting to lose their mislynch

I gaurantee the last 2 mafia are voting me. It's probably drealmerz and max.

[Dunnstral]

The kill makes me feel a little better about Fishy because the reality is if Fishy or I are scum then Vecna would likely be dead.
We couldn't of known who Vecna targeted.

The only scenario where I can think of is that its Fish + dunnstral and they dont want to get rid of me because im defending dunn.

Maybe they knew of rule 13 and hoped for unvotes by making it look like scum tried to lynch dunn?

Or kill someone you "obviously wouldn't watch"

[Dunnstral]

To elaborate a little more: if fishy or I are scum then we could of easily just waited until the night period to make the kill.
Because why not?

Because you wanted to hammer me.

[Dunnstral]

Still waiting for someone to tell me I'm wrong about drealmerz holding scum cards

[Dunnstral]

Why would scum bother to frame you, Dunn?

When? I'm not saying the kill on TWIE was framing me. They straight up tried to kill me. I don't know how I'd have known about rule 13 as scum since I've been clueless about mechanics all game. People aren't even bothering to reevaluate

[Dunnstral]

What's your view on 4 people not reconsidering their read on me after scum killed someone

[Dunnstral]

and they killed someone right after you said it was an option, too

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like, I wasn't getting lynched when the threshhold was 5. it's getting lowered to 4 now. But somehow I'm scum

[Dunnstral]

Why would scum bother to frame you, Dunn?

When? I'm not saying the kill on TWIE was framing me. They straight up tried to kill me. I don't know how I'd have known about rule 13 as scum since I've been clueless about mechanics all game. People aren't even bothering to reevaluate

Even I wasnt aware of this rule but if scum were using the kill to either frame or save you they probably wouldve asked the gm about it before doing so

I don't think so. all you need to do is look at post kills and see that votes weren't reset

[Dunnstral]

Hey guys

hello?

[Dunnstral]

drealmerz and maxous? yes, I can

[Dunnstral]

i'm eating seaweed

[Dunnstral]

Vecna, what if I told you I think grey and gerry really are just that bad and town? I'm not sure I want to lynch either of them, except through rage

[Dunnstral]

My drealmerz meta is that, like mathblade, he's annoying and usually wrong. Sorry guys but it's objectively true, if I compared people's attitudes to you towards a control it would show that you're annoying. Now, going into

why

drealmerz is annoying:

-he's usually dead wrong in his reads
-he goes on and on about something he's wrong about (in terms of what town should be doing)
-He's usually in your face and obnoxious about the above two
-he's usually town; and that's annoying.

(these apply to mathblade as well)

And so, when you look at drealmerz this game, you'll see he's been pretty reasonable and hasn't really stood out.

that means he's scum

seriously, if you have doubts meta him and look through his town games. I had doubts that he was maybe town when he started talking earlier but now I'm pretty set on this being his scum play

Looking at his cards: 9h, 3h

the 9h is Inventory, Lynchproof. Hmm, lynchproof is pretty scum-motivated. (Somebody said his cards were really towny) the inventory isn't useful. Other people will argue it is: it's not. It was a waste of time spending resources on that earlier I think.

the 3h is Neighborize, strongman. Scum thrive in neighborhoods. Town usually townread their neighbors in a 1 on 1 environment. I don't need to explain strongman

Does anybody know what drealmerz 3rd card pick was?

[Dunnstral]

Who else do you see as scum, vecna?

[Dunnstral]

Vecna do you remember how the claim stuff went about? Did drealmerz claim that card after 2 people already claimed to have it? Or did he claim it before, increasing his chances of having went for it

[Dunnstral]

hmm

[Dunnstral]

This is why I don't explain my reads btw

[Dunnstral]

no they wouldn't

[Dunnstral]

It doesn't matter. You guys are really taking advantage of giga's death; lynching me and then grey

[Dunnstral]

How fascinating that Dunn is still here now.

In what way

[Dunnstral]

I really don't think we're at a point in the game where discourse should be this sparse

Nobody really wants to talk about anything except me. I've initiated almsot every conversation this day phase

[Dunnstral]

You're dumb, I'm already dead

[Dunnstral]

...what if I told you I think grey and gerry really are just that bad and town? I'm not sure I want to lynch either of them, except through rage

so, now you're accepting that gerry is bad town, finally...after what? it started to become too suspicious that you were still pushing him is the answer

My drealmerz meta is that, like mathblade, he's annoying and usually wrong. Sorry guys but it's objectively true, if I compared people's attitudes to you towards a control it would show that you're annoying.

And so, when you look at drealmerz this game, you'll see he's been pretty reasonable and hasn't really stood out.

that means he's scum

seriously, if you have doubts meta him and look through his town games. I had doubts that he was maybe town when he started talking earlier but now I'm pretty set on this being his scum play

So your case on me being scum is that I'm annoying as town and reasonable as scum? are you serious??? I'm scum because I haven't stood out?!?!

I just deleted a huge rant at you because it was not-good (well it was a good rant, but, was not helpful here)

all anyone needs to do if they are actually concerned about this is look at my WHOPPING TOTAL OF TWO SCUMGAMES and ISO me and see that I get annoyed as scum, too (if you need help finding the parts where I rage at people, let me know!) - like, I don't get your case at all, there's nothing there and it's a desperate attempt - if I'm missing something or you think I'm misrepping what you're getting at, let me know

I suppose I'll address your "drealmer has scum cards" portion too

Nothing here really goes against what I said, saying "I'm annoying as scum too" doesn't really help and without looking at those games I just feel like you'd act different

nobody here is going to listen to me, even if I write an essay on it. Just like we're completely ignoring that giga was hard defending me and grey's slot, and now that giga's dead time to double lynch me and grey's slot

[Dunnstral]

You're dumb, I'm already dead

mafia kill (that tried to autohammer me) is also setting the lynch threshhold lower after a delay

[Dunnstral]

I thought the powers and setup were all fine and you should run it again - agree that maybe daykills aren't needed