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I'm Toto, Dorothy's dog. I have the least scummy avatar now. Remove your vote immediately!
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In post 6, mlmooney89 wrote:I've played mafia on atheistforums.org so I know the general game but this is my first one here. Should be fun to see the differences.Shannon when you are back explain how you read this guy as:
Take your time.In post 71, shannon wrote:Like it's newbie Fear of Missing Out (or fear of being scum read) for not doing the popular thing.-
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Never been to Africa... Whats the point of this question?
Also your explanation of your mooney read doesn't make sense. He was not agreeing with anyone and he said a few times he has experience offsite so why would you read him as a nervous newbie trying to blend in?
One hard part of being mafia is faking the fact that you don't know who is town and who is mafia. So your reads end up looking fake, like yours.-
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Do you find his read genuine then?In post 93, krylea wrote:Nice OMGUS.-
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I'm sorry.In post 97, shannon wrote:I'm a girl.
I'm sorryIn post 95, mlmooney89 wrote:I am a girl-
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I guess the joke is on me then. Still don't buy your read.In post 97, shannon wrote:Also, the Africa thing - I assume you're familiar with the song? And with the general concept of sometimes making lighthearted comments, call them 'jokes', in a thread? For no reason other than to make the game a bit friendlier and more amusing to play?-
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Im pretty sure Im town and therefore the wagon is quite informative to me. You can also take a leap of faith and assume Im town while holding your breath for a few seconds and try to draw some conclusions based on that. It is not very hard
I would like to hear Shannons opinion on arrow. Im very curious about that.-
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I think you are town.In post 114, Srceenplay wrote:Toto can you give us your read list?
What would you like to have seen happen by the time you have came back?
If we include arrow that leaves {arrow, shannon, mandy, elhabe, krylea}
I figure out who is scum from those. Or figure out who is town and lynch the remaining one.
P-edit you may want to start with krylea-
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In post 184, Arrowscum wrote:Also, D1 discussions lead to lot of confusion. I prefer staying out of them unless I find something very scummy on D1.
This means you find Krylea very scummy.In post 183, Arrowscum wrote:Krylea is trying to distract us, and that is working. Come on people, we need her out of the way.-
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I'm reading this over and over because I have a weird feeling about this, and I think I finally get why.In post 237, Titus wrote:Last reads. Where do you think I went wrong reading you?
Why would you ask someone how you misread them at this particular moment when you are about to learn their alignment? how does that help you find scum or town from the remaining players depending on her flip?
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But it seems you are asking her to help you clarify your read on HER. Which is useless given that she is about to flip and you will know anyway.In post 263, Titus wrote:Because if she's town that helps recalibrate my reads and if she's scum sets up investigation.
In any case, you now seemed convinced she is town, even before you asked for her clarification because you said her self vote was townie. Can you explain how her self vote is townie? and do you remain convinced of this fact after she clarified why you were misreading her for you?-
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We are not mass claiming. And from now on we only claim on we we reach l-1 and someone ELSE declaresintent to hammer.
Only postintent to hammerif you are really scum reading the L-1 target, and really willing to kill that person. If the claim is a VT we kill them.
If they target is scum they will need to gamble with a PR claim to stay alive. This is how it works.
I propose we start with Titus.-
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I agree with you here. But it was Titus who said that, not Shannon. Shannon's willingness to die is anti-town. Not sure if that makes her scum.In post 324, Srceenplay wrote:I don't think "accidentally" voting yourself automatically makes you town.-
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(SE hat)In post 335, fruitsman wrote:-Shannon as Town - Because she has been addinganalytical reasoningsto her reads and posts
This could actually be a red flag by the way, but it depends on the way she is presenting them. Scum are more likely to provide analysis, instead of information about their state of mind.
Normally this applies as a town tell and is called IIoA (information instead of analysis) but can be used as a scumtell (AIoI)
It is hard to scum to 'feel' things and 'develop reads' because they have a really good view of what is happening and they already have all information they need. Because they have pressure to generate content they will usually spend more time explaining why things are logical or not, whereas town will spend more time telling you what they think it's happening in their confused minds.-
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I may have the terminology wrong. But this part is definitely true in my experience.
Also I say the same thing here in a game I was town (and this guy was scum).In post 338, Toto wrote:It is hard to scum to 'feel' things and 'develop reads' because they have a really good view of what is happening and they already have all information they need. Because they have pressure to generate content they will usually spend more time explaining why things are logical or not, whereas town will spend more time telling you what they think it's happening in their confused minds.
For the record I don't think this applies to Shannon, though. I was just pointing out that the reasons for believing her town are wrong.In post 400, Toto wrote:This is actually the worst part. You see. When you are scum the first time you realize it is hard to develop 'reads' and cases that look genuine because psychologically you know the truth. At the same time you are pressured to contribute to the game to avoid looking scummy. Thats why talking about game theory is a very good excuse to look like you are participating in the discussion when in fact you are not sharing any information about your state of mind. This tell is documented in the wiki. Its called information instead of analysis. Town are more likely to share information about their state of mind (like alisae) instead of analysis which is easier for scum to do. And the problem with 8nny is that this is the only thing he did.-
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The iron kneeIn post 376, Titus wrote:
What you're referring to is whiteknighting. Townreading someone without a reason to do so is quite scummy actually. :/In post 375, Toto wrote:I think the way she townread me seemed genuine. And I was under fire and she did not have to do that.-
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Err that was supposed to answer 406In post 414, -Grey- wrote:
406 please.In post 410, Toto wrote:First time I read it I got the impression she was only posting about game theory. Second time I didn't get such an impression. She posted some non game theory stuff too.
Pedit. I hope you understand our dilemma here-
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Its anti town if she is town. It makes our numbers smaller tooIn post 401, -Grey- wrote:
Actually it's indicative of town.In post 325, Toto wrote:
I agree with you here. But it was Titus who said that, not Shannon. Shannon's willingness to die is anti-town. Not sure if that makes her scum.In post 324, Srceenplay wrote:I don't think "accidentally" voting yourself automatically makes you town.
Death is anti-scum more than it is anti-town because scum would lose half their team upon the death of a member.
Do math.-
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I agree with gray on not lynching anti town. Then point is that anti town posting doesn't mean town either.
In this case the scum motivation is to pretend you don't care anymore about life hard enough we all believe you. And thats the gut feeling I get from Shannon's attitude.
Im not sure I buy the case on elhabe. But I want to see them scumhunting.-
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