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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:37 am
by Alisae
Scum do it to discredit.
And ignoring is also signs of scum.
Town likes to fight against their mislynch.
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:39 am
by bangthemafia
In post 501, bangthemafia wrote: In post 486, Hawk wrote:@Bang
Are you caught up? What are your feelings about this Spade wagon. I was looking over votes and realized your vote is still from RVS stage so I want to here your thoughts.
Hawk, I had a bad day, so not yet read page 12-16. But when I logged in again just now, there were 3 more pages after yesterday. SO started reading after my summaries and Alissae's reply.
I am very uncomfortable with the way Spade's wagon built.
What do people have against Spade? Inactivity? Some answers which some people found weird? Reply instantly after someone (Sorry, but who? I dont remember. Wait, was it Alissae?) voted for him?
In my opinion all these are NAI. On the contrary, Alissae is majorly suspicious to me. Even her reply to me when I asked why a town!Alissae would push contradictory things and make a lynchbait was a question- why scum!Alissae would do that. This is a major scumtell for me.
By the way, Alissae, the answer to your "why scum would do that", is that scum wont do that deliberately. In most cases, it is a scum slip- trying to look extremely pro town by fake scumhunting, in that process making some slips or fast voteshifts, and then post-justifying it as reaction testing or whatever.
So, yes, here I go-
VOTE: Alissae
Voting second time to clarify that this is my serious vote!
And dont you worry. Give me a satisfactory response and I may change. Also, I am gonna read the rest of page 12 upto 17 at leaisure.
On page 13,
Aelin's observations on Spade in #318 and
IV's thought process in #320 looked like quite genuine scum hunting
Page 14 was mostly Spade responding to questions asked to him earlier.
On page 15, nothing much.
Page 16 was just about a video game and avatars and Aelin asking few questions
That brings me to Page 17- where I started posting. After that I am gonna comment postwise
On page 19, KT's 453 looks like a town trying to see point in another town's faulty logic. Thats townie to me. Scum!KT would hav used the erratic logic Alissae presented to throw shade on him. Unless KT and Alissae are scum buddies, of course!
My Summary-
End of page 11-
Aubrey, Kop, CD (mainly due to Jin) strong town lean
Hawk, Mala, LUV, IV, KT Null to slight town lean
Alissae, Aelin scum lean
Spade Null to slight scum lean (reason in a separate post below)
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:40 am
by KainTepes
anyway, if anyone is too tired to read everything,, this is a summary
my vote is not moving from alisae, evidence is:
1. fake "lynchbait" reaction test smelt like scum justifying scummy behavior by "ITS A REACTION TEST, GAIZ"
2. scumslip about knowing rolecops (when the only role cop is a mafia role cop, and when I questioned it he said "There's a backup role cop", but backup role cop for town doesn't count because the backup is just a normal townie until the scum role cop is dead)
3. trying to push my mislynch
4. role fishing
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:41 am
by KainTepes
also,
6. Alisae trying to make me claim when i explicitly said i'm not claiming until I reach L1, which isn't townie behavior
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:42 am
by KainTepes
In post 626, bangthemafia wrote:On page 19, KT's 453 looks like a town trying to see point in another town's faulty logic. Thats townie to me. Scum!KT would hav used the erratic logic Alissae presented to throw shade on him. Unless KT and Alissae are scum buddies, of course!
I'm not townreading that anymore...... look at the last game i played, the last time I tried to see a towny motive in a "reaction test" he turend out to be scum
that and all the subesquent alisae scumdrops
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:42 am
by KainTepes
like, nothing personal Alisae but you're scum caught in the headlights
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:43 am
by KainTepes
I know i can be weird and difficult to understand but my scumdar has not failed me,, just ask the people who have played finished games with me
when i get SERIOUS i find REAL SCUM,,
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:45 am
by bangthemafia
In post 611, KainTepes wrote: In post 609, Hawk wrote: In post 596, KainTepes wrote:last game pissed me off SO MUCH because nobody listened to me, but from that i found out something SPECIAL,,
which is that ONLY SCUM EVER VOTES FOR ME,, because they find me an EASY LYNCH........ see AELIN, remember the VANILLISH game, only SCUM voted for me (the only town who voted for me was the IC who was mentally challenged and got tricked by scum),,
that is why i am SO SURE that it is HAWK and KOP...... vote them with me, AELIN. I am TOWN and i can prove it
One you can't "prove" your town unless you're claiming PR. Second my vote was not that Oppurtunistic. If anything your votes are oppurtunistic and very sporadic.
401 You vote for Mala here cause she is posturing? Which by your definition I don't think she is I think she is just not choosing to vote because while what she is questioning is suspicious it's not nesscarily scummy and I can see her playing her vote more reserved here.
448 yay let's wagon Spade cause Spade is always scum and isn't playing different from his other games /s. No each game is different while you can from game to game find people's meta people's metas also change as they develop as a player. This is an oppurtunistic vote.
578 This post is most concerning. Spade points out breadcrumbs. Mala responds. Most of us are fine with null or town leaning Mala but you call scum scum scum and lay up pressure off Spade now? why??
582 584 and now we're to gut lynch turn votes because me and Kop think youre acting pretty scummy. This is a very panic'd scum reaction to meat, your exasperated use of caps lock aside.
Pedit: There is nothing you can post that will tell you that I am scum because I know my PM is green -_-;;
PpEdit: God damn Kain calm the fuck down and stop flip flopping your vote lol
if your "role PM is green" then join me in voting ALISAE who has just scumslipped
Please explain how. Hawk is right. You are coming across as a panicked scum
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:46 am
by Hawk
In post 627, KainTepes wrote:anyway, if anyone is too tired to read everything,, this is a summary
my vote is not moving from alisae, evidence is:
1. fake "lynchbait" reaction test smelt like scum justifying scummy behavior by "ITS A REACTION TEST, GAIZ"
2. scumslip about knowing rolecops (when the only role cop is a mafia role cop, and when I questioned it he said "There's a backup role cop", but backup role cop for town doesn't count because the backup is just a normal townie until the scum role cop is dead)
3. trying to push my mislynch
4. role fishing
Important information left out of this post.
KT switches to Mala first after Spades read.
KT then switches vote to me and Kop respectively for voting him because of the oppurtunistic vote on Mala.
KT then states he can prove I am scum but won't post.
KT then responds to Alisae about Role cops and creates a fake scum slip because of open information.
It is known that role cop and backup role cop exist. KT makes an and sumptuous of Alisae's questioning and creates a fake scum slip to hide any real scumslip. Also still has not presented information pertaining to how he knows I'm Scum. (Hint: There is none cause I'm Town)
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:47 am
by bangthemafia
In post 612, KainTepes wrote:Though I dont think Hawk is town,, he is voting me (so he must scumread me) but he's talking to me like he's sure I'm town,, and of course he's sure i'm town because he is scum and I'm not
Hawk+Alisae scumteam confirmed
Where did Hawk talk as if he knew you are town? Please quote that post
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:50 am
by bangthemafia
In post 616, KainTepes wrote:
yeah and we're in day 1 so backup rolecop can't investigate yet because nobody is dead
are you an idiot
Isnt same true for mafia rolecop? On day 1, all PRs dont have any info- mafia or town
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:52 am
by bangthemafia
In post 619, KainTepes wrote: In post 614, Alisae wrote:No Kain...That wasn't a slip.
In fact, I am so happy with my vote right now.
You just dropped my biggest scumtell
Because for some reason you thought rolecop.
But you were wrong becuase
A. Backup Rolecop for town exists
B. I just asked you why you thought Hawk was scum
But you dropped my biggest scumtell instead
ALISAE:
1. says i dropped "biggest scumtell"
2. does not explain what it is
3. scumreads me for not explaining why i know Hawk is scum
can we LYNCH THIS PLEASE,,
Yes, Alisaae, please explain what scum tell KT demonstrated.
And KT, you said you wanted to show something at L-1. I will remember that. You are suddenly behaving very suspiciously and agitated
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:53 am
by KainTepes
yeah but mafia rolecop is the only one with a guaranteed investigate tonight. The reason why alisae can SAY IT WITH CONFIDENCE is because she knows that rolecop,, in the scum PT
i'm far from panicked scum..... i just know i can easily prove my role if push comes to shove so i dont care if the scum are trying to push a mislynch on me because they will not succeed
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:55 am
by KainTepes
and i'm not sure why you are all playing dumb now about what i'm trying to "SHOW", isn't it obvious i'm a PR by this point?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:56 am
by KainTepes
and that's what i'm doing
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:57 am
by KainTepes
look at this game that just ended
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69768
tell me you don't understand why i'm pissed off
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:59 am
by Crystalline Dagger
I am confident that KAIN TEPES is scumlean. The reason is he says that he is confident that he knows Hawk is scum on the last page and then says to Hawk "if you are town then help me lynch Alisae". That is both a quick wishy washy turn in logic AND shows that he is actually not sure what Hawk is. He also seems super panicked. I will confer with Gamma and give our collective thought on KAIN TEPES.
~Jin~
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:59 am
by KainTepes
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:00 am
by bangthemafia
In post 621, Alisae wrote:Okay I'll explain it.
Scum like to push slips that aren't actually slips because they like having a justified vote.
What if its a town who genuinely feels he has caught a scumslip?
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:01 am
by KainTepes
THANK YOU for being inquisitive, bangthemafia
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:01 am
by KainTepes
Alisae's posts are full of holes
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:01 am
by Alisae
In post 643, bangthemafia wrote: In post 621, Alisae wrote:Okay I'll explain it.
Scum like to push slips that aren't actually slips because they like having a justified vote.
What if its a town who genuinely feels he has caught a scumslip?
It's a tell Bang...
And it can happen, but usually it comes moreso from a scum mindset because scum really like having a justified vote.
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:02 am
by Alisae
If they are full of holes, poke at them and come at me bro.
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:02 am
by Alisae
Oh wait, you don't want to because your scum.
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:02 am
by Aubrey
I get the feeling KT is town.
