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Zachstralkita · Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:15 pm

In post 3675, EchoVision wrote:
In post 3666, Zachstralkita wrote:You'll note I haven't even given any reasons for why I voted Kyouko. I just put my vote there to see how he would react to the wagon.

What's disconcerting is I don't think anyone really pointed out that I provided dick shit in the way of reasoning.

His reaction was okay. And for the record all talk about the "blue" situation is total bullshit for a scumread. You don't scumread people for colors lol, let alone the color that's normally opposite to red.

Now for the.. main course

VOTE: Creature
also you haven't provided dick shit in the way of reasoning for this vote

yeah i caught that. sup hoe.

Let me work

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:22 am

Bringing it back

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:34 am

Real talk tho I just made some ramen but put bacon and egg in it this shit bout to be fire

Alisae wrote:YAY HANYU IS BACK!
I wub my HS more tho.

You know what fuck you too

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:18 am

In post 3717, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 3714, Alisae wrote:I wub my HS more tho.
Using possessive pronouns to refer to me is probably a very bad idea unless you really know what you're doing.

@zach I was at a coworkers house the other night, we're all chefs and we all work in the kitchen. He's indonesian and he's a fucking legend tbh. But he was like 'No no no don't worry my friends I will cook you all dinner' and he spent four minutes in the kitchen and came out with four bowls of fucking packaged mi goreng (cooked of course).
We all started rolling on the floor laughing, we weren't offended but it was just so absolutely unthought of, even though it makes absolute sense for that person in particular to do it.

how often do you see giant spiders when you go outside

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:26 am

aren't your local flora/fauna extremely dangerous and scary

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:29 am

I am im lynching scum but will talk about it later

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:50 am

Unlike Dunn I actually go in other boards of this site

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:44 pm

Severa wrote:Titus why are you ignoring the Wraith wagon.
Wraith is obvious scum and he needs his head chopped off TODAY. PRONTO.
I'm going to be PRETTY ANGRY if you guys don't start voting him.

Maybe elaborate, cause I haven't seen one person who's voted Wraith do that.

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 20, 2017 4:49 pm

...I originally thought Creature was joking when he said Severa was RC

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:45 am

If you think Creature has been game solving this game, quote this post and say I.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:46 am

am i counting that as one or no

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:51 am

OH I GRT IT NOW

Sorry, long day.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 7:56 am

Why not vote creature, dreal.

I'm convinced Dunn's fake guilty is only indicative of him being Dunn.

I haven't seen a whole lot from Ircher so that's possible... and you know how I feel about Alisae

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:02 am

You can't do that without outlining it.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:14 am

LMFAOOO

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 10:50 am

I have actually developed that skill quite well. I know when I won't be able to though. It's been awhile since we played, and I have been changing.

Look at Wake's Role Madness for me at my best, stubbornness at all.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:16 am

I find Creature's natural response of insisting on attacking his pushers disconcerting

Though to be entirely fair, he's been "scumreading" most of them since before.

But that's part of my issue, he has scum reads that to my knowledge aren't backed up with anything I can see or in my case, respond against. Like, the last thing I got was it was because of my activity being less than it normally is.

He was an avid fan of the Slick lynch as a number one choice because Slick had "a fairly decent chance of flipping scum" uh, maybe do it on the board for me?

I don't know if being intentionally enigmatic in his thought processes correlates to town or scum Creature, because I've always had a difficult time reading Creature and have only seen scum Creature once, and even then I never really SAW him. I'm not going to give him the benefit of the doubt though, and I don't see why that's unacceptable. As it stands, all he's doing is blunt forcing in response.

"the way I want" to gamesolve consists of explanations that can be backed up. What exactly is the problem with that ?

And MY explanation for this read is condensed above.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:22 am

Someone, one of you, should sell me Echo. Actually when something's on the menu they normally put words next to it. Here there's blank space. I didn't find his consistent cursing and xdjjdjfhjei AI, and I asked him to elaborate on the Dunn read that he didn't before and though I don't agree with his conclusion, it's something I can see him coming to based on my image of him.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:25 am

ffs no ones said ANYTHING about wraith either and he's a main wagon

Like his catch up post wall things do read kind of robotic, but I think he's been deliberating things.

What is your read on All Alone and Debislot?

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:30 am

Do you think no ones witnessed that your posts today are only slightly more decent than the small amount of fluff we had?

Also the new edition Titus meme is going into circulation for the 2017, you guys need to do your part

We must also see a resurgence of Wake88 memes

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:59 am

Titus wrote:
In post 3789, Zachstralkita wrote:Do you think no ones witnessed that your posts today are only slightly more decent than the small amount of fluff we had?

Also the new edition Titus meme is going into circulation for the 2017, you guys need to do your part

We must also see a resurgence of Wake88 memes
I want to see this meme.

Basically the gist of it is:

(PREAMBLE) User must respond to posts by user TITUS with;

(1)

I have actually developed that skill quite well. I know when I won't be able to though. It's been awhile since we played, and I have been changing.

Look at Wake's Role Madness for me at my best, stubbornness at all.

or

(2) anything that TITUS posts 4-5 times in a row

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:21 pm

Alisae, scum reads?

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:22 pm

Your other ones. And possibly explain Wraith or direct me to where if you have.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:18 pm

I'm quite sure dreal is town.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:22 pm

I'm not doubitng that drealmerz is more than capable as scum, I just don't believe he's rolled scum here.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:24 pm

Severa wrote:If I'm still alive we can have this fight later. Wraith needs dead.

I know you're RC and everything, but you didn't say why.

I know RC doesn't say why, but it would probably help to say why.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:27 pm

Severa wrote:Zach, you are the kind of player who I would never try to convince because I don't think anyone is capable of changing your reads.

I will provide a more solid case at some point if it becomes required but it's certainly not for your benefit.

Well that's a catch-all statement. It's happened before, though I doubt the bias between us would enable you to see that.

Do you want to just get our beef out of the way?

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:48 pm

In post 3825, Severa wrote:I am not the one continuing to engage with you because I have no desire to engage with you and feel it is entirely unproductive towards winning this game.

I get you being a good player makes it okay for you to be egotistical as fuck, but I don't get why it means you don't have to explain anything.

I suppose to clarify, you do have to explain things, but you don't have to or want to explain them to me, because I lost us an open game once upon a time and that is how I am as a player forever. That or some other concrete determination you've made about my play that makes every game I'm in exactly the same.

I've asked for reasons from everybody, and very few have provided me them, but you seem to think I'm making you my central focus. I'm really not, you just happen to be here, posting and you also happen to be a player in the game, something I, you know, had no influence on and don't enjoy.

You seem deliberately oblivious to this though, as if players not interacting with each other can be conducive to producing information. But you don't need information, because you yourself are just going to win the game for us, I'm assuming. rb drealmerz and Titus are already in this game, and now you've arrived, making it a fucking ego fest. rb hasn't really been posting and I don't know his current reads and dreal's posts are very bare. Titus isn't bad, except for the slick lynch. So I've sort of had breathing room, but that's going to change pretty soon.

No one on the lynch you're on wants to explain jack shit and they didn't earlier in the day, and somehow I'm in the wrong for expecting clarification. Everyone expects me not only to go into their minds and pull out the information, but also see things the exact same way they do.

When pressed you dismiss me on the basis of being me, then mention the word "unproductive" in the same sentence.

You said you disagree with every single one of my reads, which isn't entirely true because I'm one of the main people who opposed Slick's lynch yesterday and today. I can no longer defend his lack of content and low activity in any meaningful way, but I still think he's town. He just has to actually begin playing and realize what he's done so far is counterproductive.

drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 3823, Alisae wrote:Where did you get that read from?
his buddying of me among other things that I never wrote down /made marks to note where it was

I actually highkey saved you yesterday.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 1:52 pm

drealmerz7 wrote:you mean the wagon that was on me? thanks! totes towncred forsure, but, I still have a scumlean on you :\

We have a mutual sr tho, so I can't say your head is completely screwed off.

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:29 pm

Naw do your thing

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:14 am

Did I say I never played with town Creature?

Also, I don't usually put 100% of my stock into meta. Why is Creature's default response just to tell me I'm scum then also not explain things? Why am I the only one who cares?

Where's the opportunism in valuing the investigative process?

If I wanted to be opportunistic I had plenty of chances to hop on a wagon with no reasoning, ie Wraith and Echo.

Yet I'm just being portrayed in a negative light and my town reads aren't taking action, so I'm trying to do stuff. If they're on Wraith, they haven't said why yet.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:23 am

In post 3891, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 3616, Zachstralkita wrote:Yall really got this man at L2. Come on folks

In post 3617, Zachstralkita wrote:Let's display some initiative and critical thinking skills
Why aren't you scum reading Slick?

All of his posts and tone day one. Also his whole approach to this. He doesn't even appear distraught or look like he wants to save himself.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:35 am

Did I say how piff that Uzi avatar was already

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:02 am

Debislot has been replaced

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:04 am

How did Wraith slip multiball, HS?

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:09 am

It looks like he just made an assumption. Also that weird Debinometry.

I dont think assuming multi ball in a large by default is a scumclaim.

Is your position that he didn't assume, he made a concrete statement?

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:20 am

What in particular makes u TR me? In your catch ups only one of my posts is mentioned.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:29 am

In post 3945, MortFeld wrote:
In post 3943, Zachstralkita wrote:What in particular makes u TR me? In your catch ups only one of my posts is mentioned.
That post. I liked it, and you also TR Ali when it's the hip and cool thing to scumread her.

Oh dear

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:33 am

That makes more sense now.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:26 am

That's a cop out. You have just as much power as any of us to change whatever "energies" there are.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:10 am

drealmerz7 wrote:does everyone believe that mort did a true town tell or do some think it was an intentional fake derp?

You can't read that as a tell imo. It's a replacement thing

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:20 am

drealmerz7 wrote:yes you can, you get your PM and it says "red mafia" you are pretty clued in, and then you read scumchat...

ping for you, zach

I mean assuming one way or the other just off the "wait it's multiball???l"already biases you, so I didn't care to waste my time. There's still his actual play to get into.

I don't really think you can give me pings, you've literally made a shitstorm about lynchbait Alisae and you're fine with lynching him if he's not scum, which is really lazy. If his play was that bad that it makes the game unplayable for you, like you or someone else said on day 1, you wouldn't be here. Your response is to paint us all as the reason for your attitude and make Alisae the wide-reaching reason you have an attitude with everyone and you to take very little responsibility. Did you think ahead to after Alisae flips green? Cause I'm pretty sure that's what he's going to flip.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:31 am

Human Sequencer wrote:I've refocused a little.

Wraith, Kyouko and Echo is my scumpool. All three have done very towny things and I recognize that, but they're the only ones I really have basis for scumreading. I should trust myself more and not get as paranoid.

What does this mean.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:38 am

So... Wraith is accusing everyone who FOS's him of being opposite team scum without knowing how overt it looks?

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 9:20 am

Shame on not me

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:59 am

Alisae why are you letting people dictate your vote?

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:02 pm

In post 4144, Creature wrote:Nah, I don't get lynched in games I obvtown unless town's pretty bad to the point there's no faith anymore.

Your play here's been far from obvtown tho.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:04 pm

And, you called my push on you opportunistic when I explained the thoughts behind it. You did nothing to respond to those, you just went in low energy defense mode.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:19 pm

Yea I only remember vaguely your play late game and I vaguely remember that game mini 1787, plus I'm pretty sure you subbed in after I got NK'd so I didn't keep up with it like that that's why I said I never saw your scum game.

But yet, if we're really following this thought process then your conclusion should be different.

If town, it should be entirely feasible to you that I've simply read you way incorrectly. Instead I have to be scum, which is an expansion of the ghost scumread you've had on me this game. I don't believe you're attempting to read this game genuinely, so I'm going to say you're scum.

There's no real reason for me to give you BOTD. In my experience, you're not someone I read easily, and with your responses I feel comfortable making the conclusion I have.

I can't remember if you were scum in Wake's Role Madness or not, but I stopped reading that game after I died.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:28 pm

Oh shit u were scum in that?

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:28 pm

OH THE GLADIATe

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:30 pm

I forgot about hunger games.

But it's not like I remember what he did there LmAO I'm assuming the implication is that he's different

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:32 pm

649 I played like I slammed Ritalin up my neck vein. No way you read me the same and honestly believe it.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:35 pm

Like, I'm actually going hard this game. Gin just fucked me up

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:03 pm

lmfao

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:23 pm

In post 4011, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 3937, Zachstralkita wrote:It looks like he just made an assumption. Also that weird Debinometry.

I dont think assuming multi ball in a large by default is a scumclaim.

Is your position that he didn't assume, he made a concrete statement?
Zach this isn't rocket science. Wraith has spent the whole game assuming multiball and freaking out that anyone who FOSes him is opposite faction scum who genuinely scumreads him.
That does not come from town.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:23 pm

In post 4040, Severa wrote:The point is it's not a question of multiball. It's a question of how he was clearly aware that it was multiball and searching to scumread people for it, and him assuming that the people that mutually FOS him are members of the opposite faction who genuinely think he's scum (which is possible but not at all a town thought process.)

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:23 pm

Im with Titus on that one tbh, think its a reach

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:25 pm

Severa wrote:
In post 4193, Zachstralkita wrote:Im with Titus on that one tbh, think its a reach
I don't think that you're a bad player because you were wrong in one game. I think you're a bad player because your reads are consistently poor and you constantly reject solid reasoning.

They are going to flip scum.

You're of the opinion that we've played enough for you to label anything I've done as consistent?

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:27 pm

Severa, that reasoning is not solid. There's merit to it but not lock scum like you're declaring.

And certainly not.. whatever it is you feel about Echo, which you haven't said and I'm not really expecting you to today. I don't know how you linked them together.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:29 pm

Severa wrote: I've read several other games that you've been in and came to the same conclusion. This game is just the latest in a line of games where you were scum's MVP.

Which ones are those, by chance?

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:30 pm

You can't wholly attribute this response to my stupidity if even Titus has said you're walking on the moon. That means your ego is a factor.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:32 pm

How does the conclusion change if you're wrong on Wraith/Echo?

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:38 pm

Slick what are your strong reads

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:40 pm

Dunn put your sig back lol

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:54 pm

Not true, though. I blamed you initally because I thought you were an asshole but after all of that I said it was my fault. It was, my fault. I didn't maintain that it was your fault.

Coincidentally every game that we're in I'm opposed to you, but it's not like this intentionally. Where are the multiple excuses that I've found to account for my actions? The situation you're talking about is one of them. I can't name another off the top of my head and I don't think you can because it doesn't exist. We haven't had another game like that, nor do we have another completed. I don't even think I've had another game where I was responsible for as costly a mistake like that. You can correct me here if I'm wrong, as the issue would be my memory and not my sense of pride.

So, a lot of what you're insinuating is false based on what you think you know of me and I'm not simply covering up for myself. Putting my ego aside, to say that how you've depicted me in the rest of that paragraph is truthful would be a lie.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:57 pm

Okay I didn't admit it well at all, but my last two posts in that thread are conceding to that fact. I insisted on feeling the way I felt because of my emotions and opinion of you, but that doesn't change the fact which you were right about and I knew you were correct about afterward.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:03 pm

That just means that I'll be proven wrong with results or I won't be. I disagree with the lynch but we both know you don't need me at all for it to happen.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:03 pm

My original intention was to get an explanation when there was zero explanation from any of Wraith's wagoners before your case, so I succeeded in obtaining what I wanted to.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:10 pm

In post 4216, Severa wrote:Which, as you may have realized by now, does absolutely nothing for me. So in the future when I am not bothering to explain you my reads you will understand why, yes?

I don't go VS you because you're RC. I doubt every single read you propose would be opposed by me. But that's just literally how it's happened by circumstance.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:38 pm

I think by "led" he's indicating that he was the first vote on it. Which he was, if I remember correctly.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:56 pm

I want to hear his reasons for AA, cause AA has been p town.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:00 pm

Alisae's.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:23 pm

He's Pine slot.

Zachstralkita · Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:25 pm

Severa is RC.

Zachstralkita · Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:55 am

Uzi Vert, anyone can ask questions.

Zachstralkita · Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:09 am

From the reads he presented I don't feel he used that information to an extent that could be constructive, save for a few of them.

I feel like he's the sort of player who can manipulate you because of how enigmatic his play is.

Zachstralkita · Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:07 am

How am I confusing, HS?

Zachstralkita · Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:19 am

In post 4314, Human Sequencer wrote:
Zach idk how to read you and it's mildly annoying me but I'm getting better w/ it.

How do you get better at something you don't know how to do?

Zachstralkita · Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:13 pm

In post 4321, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Wait no that doesn't make sense, because the red kill is the one that failed I'm an idiot

Zachstralkita · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:27 pm

Rebbe say hi to me when you catch up

Zachstralkita · Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:29 pm

Thanks ur predecessor avoided me like ducks avoid lava but was always sneak dissin

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:17 am

Anything SBM KYOK is hiding cannot hide from the light, no worries.

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:16 am

You need to start putting effort in dude, start defending yourself

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:36 am

In post 4425, Alisae wrote:Then he looks defensive and he gets scumread even more for defending himself?

Aren't you scumreading him? Cause this would be a really bad post if you were.

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:39 am

What did you intend to get across with that?

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:44 am

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

All things considered, I'd rather vote here than remain on my vanity wagon.

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:46 am

UNVOTE:

Actually, that's dumb. I want to see something first

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:05 am

Why designate the flipped scum as red mafia then? That doesn't make sense

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:03 pm

In post 4571, Creature wrote:From Dunn and Zach, Dunn looks town and Zach looks scum.

Is your money being long worth yo lifespan being shorter

EchoVision wrote:
In post 4572, Alisae wrote:I decided to ISO Texcat and see if I could find anything
When Gin faked Vig Tex said that she didn't want Zach shot.
She also said she wanted Debi shot.
Maybe we should we look at Zach again?
I think I pointed that out in what I had said. If not, I definitely meant to point it out.

That's dumb. Not sure why you guys are taking flipped scum's "reads" at face value, considering half of scum's job is to misdirect. It shows surface level thinking or intentionally sloppy work.

Even before he mentioned me, as of late Alisae has either been derping hard or making scum posts.

I haven't said anything about Rebbe's claim, I'm still way back at why he felt it was necessary to do it in the first place.

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:10 pm

Kyouko do you want me shot

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:14 pm

In post 4584, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:No, I didn't yesterday and still don't. It's possible one of you or HS is blue blending in but more likely HS imo

I meant in real life

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:25 pm

Lmfao

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:44 pm

I mean, are you forgetting we already have a vig claim dreal?

We have two cut and dry options depending on this flip.

I've been opposed against this lynch, but I'm not

that

dumb. Either Wraith flips scum or he flips town and then Severa dies. Alternatively Wraith can be scum and Severa opp faction but I townread Pine's slot.

Plus, Severa seems like he would claim a guilty out of spite, but I don't think he's doing it here. Either Wraith or Slick were dying today as much as I hate to admit it.

motivation to claim gs on Wraith is???

- Is Dunnstral

- Kill the town pr with gun because rc is scum

rebbe, and i townread that slot. we dont have 2 fucking vigs

- Kill town wraith for whatever reason because rc is scum

rc dies next

- Kill town wraith because RC thinks his read is right

I'd be admittedly biased to come to this conclusion...

- Kill scum wraith because RC thinks his read is right

He doesn't need to expend his energy

- Kill scum wraith because RC has a real guilty

And I read Pine's posts come day start and he doesn't really mention Wraith slot. Possibly because he was unsure if the guilty was scum if that lines up

So am I missing something?

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:48 pm

I dunno if you're going to give town power why do it with the same role twice. And I don't think scum vigs are normal.

pedit.. so can you place motives behind the fake claim then?

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:57 pm

In post 4617, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4613, Zachstralkita wrote:- Kill town wraith because RC thinks his read is right
that's what I'm worried about

I mean, if he wanted to strong arm his lynch of choice he doesn't need a guilty to do it. His literal posts do that for him. All he'd have to do is post them some more.

drealmerz7 wrote:"pretends to be alisae"

was there anyone else who faked one besides you dunnstral? I forget...

LMFAO IM NOT GOING TO LET THIS ONE GET SLEPT ON

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:02 pm

EchoVision wrote:
In post 4577, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 4571, Creature wrote:From Dunn and Zach, Dunn looks town and Zach looks scum.
Is your money being long worth yo lifespan being shorter

EchoVision wrote:
In post 4572, Alisae wrote:I decided to ISO Texcat and see if I could find anything
When Gin faked Vig Tex said that she didn't want Zach shot.
She also said she wanted Debi shot.
Maybe we should we look at Zach again?
I think I pointed that out in what I had said. If not, I definitely meant to point it out.
That's dumb. Not sure why you guys are taking flipped scum's "reads" at face value, considering half of scum's job is to misdirect. It shows surface level thinking or intentionally sloppy work.

Even before he mentioned me, as of late Alisae has either been derping hard or making scum posts.

I haven't said anything about Rebbe's claim, I'm still way back at why he felt it was necessary to do it in the first place.
called us dumb. discredit. scum claim. fake ass mother fucker lynch this shit

*obvious sarcasm is obvious*

Your drealmerz impression could use some owrk. try CAPITALS

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:10 pm

drealmerz7 wrote:he's still scum though

@ me tho motherfucker

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:14 pm

In post 4624, EchoVision wrote:
FUCK YOU discredit again.

PLS HANG THIS SHIT FEST

Damn how they lettin u play twice in one game?

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:26 pm

I just attempted to make you make your posts more receptive so you don't run into everyone who disagrees with you or run the game off track which is extremely possible and happens for you you big DUMY it almost just happened last game with Titus.

It's ok Ima catch u lackin out there

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:28 pm

This is what happens when I put hard work into making cat puns

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:35 pm

drealmerz7 wrote:):

that does not bode well for my read on you, mortman!

^ That's exactly what I mean LMAO

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:33 am

I like how Severa acts like I'm ducking the guilty when my last posts were literally supporting it

He also makes everyone who questions it scum LMFAO

VOTE: Wraith

Dunn no way Creature is happening today he either has a weak read or is purposefully giving reads he can dismiss as gut

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:57 am

Oh really just a minor change in that HE CLAIMED A FUCKING GUNSMITH GUILTY WITH A VIG CLAIM ALREADY PRESENT

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:21 am

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4788, Zachstralkita wrote:I like how Severa acts like I'm ducking the guilty when my last posts were literally supporting it

He also makes everyone who questions it scum LMFAO

VOTE: Wraith

Dunn no way Creature is happening today he either has a weak read or is purposefully giving reads he can dismiss as gut
But what do you think of him slimeball

Still scum

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:28 am

In post 4800, Dunnstral wrote:Nah don't worry about it, I already know you're town =)

What else do you know

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:22 am

Wraith wrote:Well if I have no other choice

Claim Cop. Inno on Titus N1.

Creature likely the real Vig.

Explain your process on why you went on Titus then

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:25 am

I don't like the claim tho, those sorts of ones are admittedly easy for scum to make but on the flip side it would sort of explain Wraiths background play

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:08 am

What the fuck

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:35 am

Lmao the guy said "oh I'm L-1?"

Also the wagon switcheroos are very telling

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:42 am

I'm not a wide receiver don't throw me bullets

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:44 am

Rebbe > Creature

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:49 am

In post 4939, Wraith wrote:Frankly if I'm still alive tomorrow I'm perfectly fine letting myself get lynched just to confirm what I'm saying is true.

This is actually a scum post.

Zachstralkita · Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:52 am

Cops don't say they're ok with getting lynched tho lmfao

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:33 pm

nnnnnnngggghhhhh.

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:41 pm

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5179, Zachstralkita wrote:nnnnnnngggghhhhh.
told u ssbm town

but do u listen? no

My main gripe was I'm going to receive the brunt end of not lynching Wraith until wayyy later when the fake guilties were claimed

But it's ok because... I'm not going to concede on my read of Echoslot town

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:41 pm

In post 5181, Alisae wrote:Zach I miss Hanyu

Are we going to make a Higurashi hydra together

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:44 pm

In post 5192, Severa wrote:
In post 5188, Zachstralkita wrote:
Dunnstral wrote:
In post 5179, Zachstralkita wrote:nnnnnnngggghhhhh.
told u ssbm town

but do u listen? no

My main gripe was I'm going to receive the brunt end of not lynching Wraith until wayyy later when the fake guilties were claimed

But it's ok because... I'm not going to concede on my read of Echoslot town
Remember what I said yesterday?

Oh you're not clued in to my plan of carrying this town victory from halftime?

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:48 pm

My intention there was actually to rile you up. I'm not going in to the rest of that tho. My last two town games were p good so idk what strain of crack you got this week

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:49 pm

Yet you speak on all the other ones like you played them so don't do that? If we're in this game?

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:53 pm

fire avi there creature

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:56 pm

Hey let's point out that Slick was townnn

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:03 pm

Why is drealmerz sensible to u

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:10 pm

AA town

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:14 pm

It is up to drealmerz to defend himself with something other than his usual... attitude

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:43 pm

Yea u didnt notice the two fucking votes that just went on him

and not lynching echo if I can help it

Zachstralkita · Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:51 pm

he's in the same category as slick was to me in terms of read which is why i find them disheartening

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:54 am

VOTE: Creature

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:29 am

That's not the reasoning you held before drealmerz -- I'd be more into this game if I was more into this game

Zachstralkita · Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:38 pm

Echo forgive them they know not what they do

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:41 am

In post 5570, Alisae wrote:Okay, yeah, Zach is definitely scum. I get the feeling they really knew that Debi was town D1 and tried to pocket them.

pedit: VCA and NKA.

False

All I did was ask her questions and she never said shit to me despite maintaining a scumread

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:43 am

In post 5640, All Alone wrote:drealmerz7, I have an investigation result that suggests you're scum. please claim

(don't run him up yet. trust me, it is
imperative
that I get to chance to claim in full today)

Mmmmmmmmmmm

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:47 am

Why is Creature treated as real vig ?

Titus clearly SRd him secondary to Slick

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:53 am

In post 5665, ThinkBig wrote:Reading through now. There should only be three scums left. By PoE we narrowed it down to only 3 people. AA claimed that he has an investigative result on dreal that shows he is scum. The only three people remaining are dreal, uzi, and Zach. I will be happy to lynch and shoot between those three.

Your pool is too easy considering I am town

At most there's 1 in there

We have to assume one of the claims is lying

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:57 am

I'm implying scumreading Creature is why Titus died.

A push led by me has no credence but Titus and dreal probably could have got him lynched if they wanted to

Also, mind Alisae's opportunist pushes in view of his awful posting yesterday

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:59 am

1 of the vig claims is lying. And HS has suddenly found a way to scumread me when I was a null read for like 2 days with NO progression and no one says ANYTHING

You guys are dumb

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:03 am

Human Sequencer wrote:Well everybody who isn't you or like two other slots are town, so there's gotta be scum somewhere. I'm betting it's in my null slots.

Nice shade you have there, though.

No shade, that's exactly how your read went on me

Anyone that vaguely paid attn day 2 should be able to tell.

VOTE: Alisae

Did nothing but obstruct yesterday but will mount a push on myself and Uzi today because we are acceptable lunches to most.

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:15 am

2/3 of who died would have defended me

I'm being set up for this lynch, it's painstakingly obvious

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:23 am

Human Sequencer wrote:Zach complain less help us find scum plz (if you are town that is)

I told you who was most likely scum already

Join the wagon, you probably are too considering your lack of read progression

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:28 am

I'm not complaining, NKA makes a lot of sense now

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:38 am

Do you know what verbatim means

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:56 am

In post 5716, Human Sequencer wrote:@Zach
Yes.
I was using it to point out how obviously contradictory your perspective is right now, even if I wasn't using it entirely correctly.

My vote is nowhere near OMGUS, if you cared about solving you would notice the stark difference in Alisae's play and actions yesterday to his approach right out of the gates today

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:03 am

You'd know about it if I was stabbing at you

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:06 am

HS youve played like you've had no clue how to read me for the last few days

The random progression to lock scum is a little telling

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:10 am

THat said Alisae is obvscum

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:02 am

AA why did you not cc severa

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:15 am

Wtf none of you you let anyone explain shit

You realize AA explicitly said not to speed lynch so we can know the extent of his role

Oh

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:22 am

ru dumb

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:24 am

In post 5756, Alisae wrote:
In post 5733, Zachstralkita wrote:THat said Alisae is obvscum
No.
Stop.
You're getting distracted.

How am I distracted if I'm scum

drealmerz7 wrote:the rest of you are being if you think there's a cop in the game

Cop not only investigative

And cop doesn't have to be explained like aa says

I just want to know why he severa

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:26 am

That does not pertain to the question

Alisae wrote:Zach why did you even want someone to fakeclaim Severa?

What

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:27 am

Guilty in the figurative sense

Like a gunsmith getting a gun result can be referred to as a guilty

Alisae wrote:Why did you want someone to CC Severa?
2 investigatives in a game could be possible ya know.
No?

Yea just like the 2 fucking vigs we have?

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:28 am

Not the example I gave

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:30 am

In post 5640, All Alone wrote:drealmerz7, I have an investigation result that suggests you're scum. please claim

(don't run him up yet. trust me, it is
imperative
that I get to chance to claim in full today)

Why does cop say all of this

Alisae wrote:But Severa was on scum tho...

What are you suggesting with this statement?

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:35 am

Alisae wrote:
In post 5835, Zachstralkita wrote:What are you suggesting with this statement?
That you are blue scum that wanted a CC day 2 becuase you knew Severa was fakeclaiming so you can make an attempt to save your strongman.

I'm saying no one knew Wraith was scum save for blue scum before he flipped and considering that Severa faked it

But there was a point before Severa revealed that he faked it where most others thought it was real

Why then does AA not counterclaim what in his eyes would be another investigative if he's an investigative? I doubt that he thought there were multiple investigative

And I BELIEVED Severa's guilty after he claimed it -- it made sense to me that he was tunneling so hard if he had a guilty

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:37 am

I AsKED AA FOR A REASON

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:41 am

Wow look at this exclamation point to indicate my genuine surprise!

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:16 am

I was PoE Day 1, too?

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:32 am

Yeah Zach is all 3 scum

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:36 am

1 of the current claims is lying

I'm VT tho

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:36 am

More like 2 actually

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:38 am

why is aa on uzi if he thinks dreal is a scum rolecop

it seems like they're not equally substantiated reads

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:41 am

What sort of vigilante is thinkbig

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:43 am

In post 5982, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 5981, Zachstralkita wrote:What sort of vigilante is thinkbig
One that murders scum

Full or modifiers is what I meant

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:46 am

Then Crwature is probably faking

VOTE: Creature

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:49 am

In post 5992, All Alone wrote:
In post 5979, Zachstralkita wrote:why is aa on uzi if he thinks dreal is a scum rolecop

it seems like they're not equally substantiated reads
you're asking me why am I voting the guy I tracked to a kill?

good question! it's because I tracked him to a kill

Ok don't flame me I skipped that 1 part

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:05 am

Creature wrote:Hey, Zach. Let's not setup spec by saying "I doubt there are two vigs" and blah blah blah.

I have a reason to believe there's a role like All Alone, Wraith's role.
What's your reason to not believe there can have one full vig and one 1-shot strongman vig?

I feel like you'd be a one-shot something else.

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:07 am

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:08 am

Zachstralkita wrote:no

there has to be something that gives that role some sort of credence and i don't believe there is

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:38 am

You guys actually find Alisaes posting townie

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:41 am

In post 6062, MortFeld wrote:
In post 6059, Zachstralkita wrote:You guys actually find Alisaes posting townie
Definitely not today.

Y no lynch dat

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:43 am

VOTE: Alisae

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:47 am

In post 6070, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Zach, did you even what I said about Ali and VCA?

Yeah but I didn't vote him for his statements on me and VCA

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:52 am

Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Again, I'm town, lets lynch Zach.

VOTE: Zach

Lynch in Alisae/Creature/HS tomorrow and my time will not have been wasted

Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 6075, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 6070, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Zach, did you even what I said about Ali and VCA?

Yeah but I didn't vote him for his statements on me and VCA
You do realize that is a big part of how he got to his conclusion?

I do realize in comparison to today Alisae was blatantly scumposting yesterday. The only thing worse is probably HS' magical teleporting reads

Zachstralkita · Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:35 pm

NKA Titus and Funnstral

Zachstralkita · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:12 am

Actually Uzis role being fake makes sense

Zachstralkita · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:13 am

If I'm wrong about Creature

Zachstralkita · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:25 am

In post 5712, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 5607, Human Sequencer wrote:I'm willing to believe that Alisae is town based on todays posts tbh.

Zach, Creature, All Alone
^One of these have to go today. I don't want to lynch Creature. Alisae, can we compromise on Zach?
Am I the only one that doesn't think Zach is scum? What's pinging the rest of you? I know he was against every lynch this game other than Gin and his reads have been a bit too spot on but the way he defended or vouched for those players feels like it's genuinely coming from town.

Yep then I get mystically PoEd later

ITH

Zachstralkita · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:30 am

I forgot to mention I intended to hammer in 5 minutes

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Zachstralkita · Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:57 am

if he thought Creature was faking y would he vote me LMFAO

Zachstralkita · Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:08 am

Lmfao gg

Zachstralkita · Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:10 am

In post 6431, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 653, Zachstralkita wrote: I dont think this is a sensibl e statement.
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Listen don't make fun of my soft I learned cryptography from the KGB

Zachstralkita · Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:16 am

In post 6437, mhsmith0 wrote:only 3 pages, and only about half of the posts were shit posts. But some of the shit posts were good

hey motherfucker don't make me out our private drinking pt

Zachstralkita · Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:17 am

Creature was like my worst problem this game I had no way to counteract his scumread on me from Day 1

Zachstralkita · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:44 am

I knew how scummy my Gin push was cause I had to literally pull it out of my ass

Zachstralkita · Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:31 am

hey can we get the rest of the PTs now

Zachstralkita · Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:46 am

In post 6497, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Nice diary zach, i like the gin puns

Xoxoxxxx

Zachstralkita · Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:18 am

I don't either tbh

Idk when Ima go back to it

Zachstralkita · Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:28 am

Yep go ahead

One day you'll know the power of my crumb

Zachstralkita · Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:07 am

In post 6538, Human Sequencer wrote:zach's new avi is spectacular
keep being cool my dude

My man

Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 1288, rb wrote:
In post 1285, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1271, Human Sequencer wrote:See, that explanation checks out perfectly. Now try and understand why I'm scumreading you for not picking up on that earlier. If you posted that a few posts ago (as opposed to writing me off as confbiased), we wouldn't be at such an impasse.
This feels like a loaded statement from my perspective because it seems like you're asking me to say why people should think I'm scum.
HS is pretty good as town isn't he?

i like to think it's because of me but really it's because you're scum

HEHEHEHE
rb what do you think of this, do you think your read on me was sensibl e

LMAO I felt good about us winning early on because rb had a hard town read on you before