Large Normal 200 - Big Round Numbers - Game Over

Human Sequencer · Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:26 am

I'm going to bed, it's 7:20 AM. I'm cobbled up with thoughts right now, I'll take a clean look at the game and rethink the Severa/Wraith situation.
I've been flip-flopping on Wraith all game, just having the slot gone sounds good for peace of mind lmao.

I don't remember where my vote is, but I'm gonna UNVOTE: .

Human Sequencer · Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:29 am

I don't know. I'm not thinking straight right now, so I'll get back to you when I am.

I was joking.

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:52 am

11 roles zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
skimmed the thread, will read more deeply in a sec

basic thoughts:
there's no such thing as a lynchable offense, i agree with the metric that severa may have taken questionable actions but in the end she didn't break any rules nor was she even incorrect. it would have taken a lot of effort to get me back on the wraith wagon after that cop claim, and if more people saw through her lies we'd probably have a really low chance of victory, especially after such a horrid night phase.
regardless of all that, i'd really much rather lynch scum, which severa isn't

creature sk i never considered, but it makes a lot of sense. still not lynching today.

idk about dreal, maybe i was stuck in a massive tunnel all along.
echo reads fucking rancidly today.

uzi, mort, titus, severa, where should i vote and why? first dibs!

i forgot AA was even in this game lmao

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:52 am

11 pages zzzzzzzzzzzzz*

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 4:56 am

maybe severa will fakeclaim 11 roles before the game is over :^)

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:35 am

uuggggggggghhhhhhhhhh
is echo at l-1?

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:38 am

uuuuuuuuuuugh
is creature at l-1

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:32 am

echovision is just taking shit out of context in the shallowest way possible
every point he raises has an easy logical step to the next one he just chooses not to take
i don't think he's an idiot, i think he's not putting the logical effort in because he doesn't have to. he's scum

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:03 am

echo: mort, alisae, dunn, titus, uzi
creature: severa, zach
dreal: creature
titus: echo
severa: dreal

current vc, idk how many to lynch though
somebody who is good at vca (i'm looking at you titus) should look into echo and dreal, they jumped around a lot on really shoddy reasoning
surely 5 isn't l-1 with 13 alive
VOTE: echo

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:05 am

mort i am so happy those slots are iffy to you
so happy

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:15 am

@d7
i'm not trying to paint you bad tho
you were a hard tr at one point
unless you're talking about our spat, in which case, i was probably wrong.

Human Sequencer · Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:18 am

eat me with maple syrup

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:50 pm

In post 5583, Alisae wrote:inb4 HS is having a "really good scum game" again if he knows what I mean
TB probably does as well.

i dont get it, looks hilarious so plz link me :V

so echo flipped town, and severa flipped scum
ok well i'm obviously fucking useless this game with trash reads so idek what to do
sec readlist

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:52 pm

Alisae - ?
Lil Uzi Vert - Town
Zachstralkita - Town
Creature - ?
drealmerz7 - Probably town
MortFeld - Town
ThinkBig - Town
All Alone - ?

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:52 pm

oops i fucked that up

Alisae - ?
Lil Uzi Vert - Town
Zachstralkita - ?
Creature - Town
drealmerz7 - Probably town
MortFeld - Town
ThinkBig - Town
All Alone - ?

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:53 pm

wait im shit at this i fucked it up again

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:54 pm

Alisae - ?
Lil Uzi Vert - Town
Zachstralkita - ?
Creature - ?
drealmerz7 - Probably town
MortFeld - Town
ThinkBig - Town
All Alone - ?

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:54 pm

Explain to me how uzi is locked scum because all I see is PoE which doesn't align with your confidence.

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:56 pm

Don't forget we have two vig shots tonight.
Wait a second, vigs claim your kills the nightkills don't make much sense.
Severa went to bluescum (unless vigs went rouge), which means Dunn probably went to redscum, which means Titus was a vig shot?

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:56 pm

Uuuhhh I'm forgetting how many shots we had last night
Still vigs claim your kills plz

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:58 pm

I'm willing to believe that Alisae is town based on todays posts tbh.

Zach, Creature, All Alone
^One of these have to go today. I don't want to lynch Creature. Alisae, can we compromise on Zach?

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:05 pm

In post 5608, Alisae wrote:I think the Zach compromise will happen today.
I think scum is leave AA out on the table because of their playstyle.

Also HS the reason why I'm hesitant on doing Zach right now is because I really want to find red scum and I think he's mostly bluescum.

So Uzi is confirmed bluescum and zach is probably bluescum?
A scumteam of 4?

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:09 pm

@Alisae That makes sense, I thought we had two blue flips already for some reason.
I don't think she was desperate to fakeclaim, I thought she was VT desperate to get her scumreads lynched and was willing to do anything necessary to do so.

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:16 pm

In post 5622, MortFeld wrote:
In post 5620, Alisae wrote:but is being paranoid bad?
yes

double yes

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:16 pm

we aren't even in lylo yet alisae, your scheduled paranoia freakout doesn't happen for at least one more day phase

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:30 pm

In post 5626, Alisae wrote:HS, why did you attempt to discredit all of Severa's fakeclaims by saying Severa was just a VT?

where did you even pull this from
this is as loaded as a question can possibly get
i thought severa was a vt fakeclaiming so i shared that opinion with everybody else
would you look at that, severa was fakeclaiming and i was right all along, they just weren't vt

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:37 pm

i've never understood why people omgus but i do now

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:42 pm

my play d3 being lazy was just me feeling apathetic towards the game because of shit reads.
i'm really bad at large games.

what does dreal being potentially scum and me being scum do to your super strong poe read on uzi?

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:44 pm

that makes perfect sense

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:44 pm

wait no it doesnt

Human Sequencer · Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:44 pm

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:54 am

VOTE: Zach
Slick clearly wasn't paying attention to this game to any real degree, and you're smart enough to know that. You're reaching.

I'm VT if anybody cares.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:55 am

TB who did you shoot?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:57 am

In post 5640, All Alone wrote:drealmerz7, I have an investigation result that suggests you're scum. please claim

(don't run him up yet. trust me, it is
imperative
that I get to chance to claim in full today)

Let's not lynch Zach before this resolves please

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:00 am

Well everybody who isn't you or like two other slots are town, so there's gotta be scum somewhere. I'm betting it's in my null slots.

Nice shade you have there, though.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:02 am

Please do, creats. I would love to be told that you're town right now, and they don't cripple sks.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:07 am

In post 5602, Human Sequencer wrote:Alisae - ?
Lil Uzi Vert - Town
Zachstralkita - ?
Creature - Town
drealmerz7 - ?
MortFeld - Town
ThinkBig - Town
All Alone - ?

AA+Dreal will resolve
I'm only comfortable lynching Alisae or Zach, along with one out of AA/Dreal
Feeling really good about this game suddenly

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:08 am

I edited that readslist in the quote by itself

Creature, Mort: what do you think about Uzi?
I haven't actually given them any analysis at all, my read is like 80% 'eh they look town'

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:10 am

Not that I'm aware of.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:11 am

Starting to sour on uzi actually. Wouldn't mind more from that slot, a lot more. Their interactions with me before were favourable, but I need more than that.
brb, checking out some associations

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:17 am

Zach complain less help us find scum plz (if you are town that is)

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:17 am

Even if you're scum help us find the scum on the other team

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:18 am

The correct response there was 'Thanks Obama.'

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:34 am

Zach, Verbatim
'HS is scum for having no read progression! This is an OMGUS vote that makes no progressive sense!'

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:40 am

@Zach
Yes.
I was using it to point out how obviously contradictory your perspective is right now, even if I wasn't using it entirely correctly.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:41 am

In post 5715, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:AA is probably town. I don't see a reason for him to gambit here as scum. Especially on someone like D7.

I don't agree with any part of this except 'AA is probably town.'

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:44 am

Both vigilantes are town, get with the times.

@Creature
D7 is an easy target because a lot of people just don't like him and wouldn't mind him gone, so it's easier for people to get in the mindset of 'Oh ok he's just scum' without questioning it any deeper.
I'm not saying that's what's happening here, I'm just saying I don't agree with that particular part of Uzi's analysis.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:45 am

oops that was @uzi, w/e doesn't matter

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:53 am

Well it would make sense for scumAA to be done out of desperation.
Anyway like I said I don't really think this is likely and we agree so there's no real point talking about it.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:01 am

Alisae's play today confirms her as town to me.
Check out the game in TB's sig.
Also, your stabs at be are so empty, petty and baseless I doubt they actually come from somebody who wants to solve the game.

@Uzi
AA is in policy lynch territory for his lurkaderping all game.

The way Rebbe (who is TB) entered was spectacularly town, particularly the way they claimed the texcat kill.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:04 am

pls stab me senpai

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:09 am

You're not lock scum, you're just the least towny here.
As the game progresses and the slots I scumread start dying, my nullreads start turning into scumreads. Is that something you don't buy?

Going into D4 I had no strong scumreads. But the more I look at your slot and talk to you, the worse you look. Especially with Creature being town.

Also how the fuck could this even be faked considering its multiball and as scum or town I don't know your alignment. As either scumteam it'd be in my best interests to find and lynch the other scumteam right now. This kills the 'read progression'.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:18 am

Creature is one shot novice, remember?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:19 am

In post 5684, Creature wrote:1-shot Strongman Novice Vigilante.

Novice = Can't shot N1

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:25 am

So why do you think he's scum?
Still going for the sk route?
Or did you just slip hard?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 3:37 am

In post 5740, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 5737, Human Sequencer wrote:Creature is one shot novice, remember?
Right, but if you recall he was very guarded and a little twitchy about vigilantes when the topic first came up.
I think he was this way to make scum think the game has an even and odd night vigilantes.

You mentioned that you scumread Creats.
The bolded is something I don't see coming from scumCreats at all, and if I thought that's what he was doing I'd have a pretty strong tr on him regardless of multiball.
So why do you still sr Creats?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:12 am

In post 5697, Human Sequencer wrote:Starting to sour on uzi actually. Wouldn't mind more from that slot, a lot more. Their interactions with me before were favourable, but I need more than that.
brb, checking out some associations

I didn't get much from uzi+wraith nor uzi+severa, but I'm fucking exhausted so.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:12 am

In fact I pretty much just gave uzi+severa the quick skim. It was horrible and I should do it again.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:59 am

In post 5757, Alisae wrote:And to those people who really don't think HS is scum answer this:
In post 5632, Alisae wrote:[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p8770117]snip

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch![/color][/b]
[/area]
Mort. Who here A. Discredited Severa's fakeclaims by saying Several was just VT fakeclaiming and B. Is not on the Wraith wagon?

Oh wait, the answer IS human sequencer, because HS knew Severa was fake claim AFTER HE SAID WRAITH WAS A ROLEBLOCKER.[/quote]
Or maybe I just knew she was fakeclaiming like I knew Gin was?
I mean sure I got both their alignments wrong, but w/e.
If this turns into a lynch, don't lynch Alisae for it plz.

@Dreal
No, shut up, claim.
You have a literal guilty on you.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:00 am

VOTE: Dreal

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:03 am

Or maybe people just wanted to PL you because you've made fucking 916 posts.
I don't care, nor do I want you lynched anymore, but to say everybody who did was scum-motivated is ignoring your play all game.

DONT PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:04 am

Or maybe I just knew she was fakeclaiming like I knew Gin was?
I mean sure I got both their alignments wrong, but w/e.
If this turns into a lynch, don't lynch Alisae for it plz.

This is me not wanting to get rid of Alisae.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:06 am

Holyfuck.
Thanks Dreal.
(Also, Thanks Obama)

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:07 am

Nah, you just played like a fool.
So you're town?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:09 am

OR MAYBE
JUST MAYBE
AA WAS GAMBITING SOMEHOW AND WANTED YOU TO COMPLY TO FURTHER THE GAMESTATE

AA ain't no fool, Alisae can attest to that, he has a very solid towngame and though it's not sure he's town here, we was probably working towards something very pro-town if he was.
Ugh. Piles of ugh.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:10 am

If there's doc, it should be on Mort or TB. Don't announce it if you are, keep it between those two so scum don't know where to shoot.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:12 am

Dreal was already hammered.
@Creats
What do you mean what about the redscum?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:12 am

Please link your ISO is very long.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:13 am

Seriously please link so we can vig shot AA if it's incriminating

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:14 am

In post 5799, Creature wrote:
In post 5794, Human Sequencer wrote:What do you mean what about the redscum?
According to drealmerz7, you and All Alone are scum together (aka bluescum). What about redscum?

I thought that was a comment towards my doc protect post, sorry

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:14 am

Fuck you creats you do this every fucking time >_>

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:16 am

It wasn't town being dumb it was creature being too smart :V

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:19 am

Nice quad post there, Dreal. Is that fundamental too?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:22 am

Screw off Dreal.

AA, explain yourself plz.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:34 am

Dreal cut this crap. It really looks like you're scum trying to obfuscate the thread with your pointless semantic talk at this point.
On mafiascum, we use the definition kindly defined by Creature. Deal with it.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:37 am

We're all on the same page.
You're the outlier.

That said, I feel like your claimed doc targets check out. Curious as to why somebody would shoot Wraith N1, maybe redscum caught on to him D1?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:37 am

I've already claimed, I'm VT.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:38 am

Wait just a second guys

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:38 am

Severa KNEW that wraith was scum
Redscum caught on to Wraith being scummy D1 and tried to shoot him N1, failed because of Dreal's doc protect

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:39 am

Severa knew that Wraith was scum probably because it was already said in redscum PT
Who caught on to wraith D1 apart from me?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:41 am

Wraith was the killer!
They tried to kill him and roleblocked him!
N1 makes sense now!

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:46 am

Holy fucking shit dreal can you calm your ego for like one second please.
VOTE: Zach

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:53 am

Dreal. Creature.
Stop this noise.
Please.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:57 am

It doesn't feel like post-game talk, it feels like useless noise that's shitting up the thread and making it harder to find scum.

Mort, what do you think about Zach?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:58 am

In post 5909, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:What?

Is this some sort of reaction test?

So here Uzi doubts All Alone's results, writing it off as a reaction test...

In post 5913, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah, AA is for real. Just reread.

I'll spill. I'm a 1-Shot Friendly Neighbor.

...and here he outs his 'role'.

In post 5934, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 5933, Creature wrote:
In post 5929, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I didn't crumb.
Why Dunnstral? Why N3?
Read my 5922.

Night 3 because due it only being one shot, I felt it shouldn't be used N1 or N2 because of how careful you have to be to ensure you don't waste it.

This is also very weak.

What's the vc?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:01 am

I agree, I thought my claiming VT twice was in support of that but apparently not.

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:05 am

By who?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:06 am

@Uzi
By AA? Because if so, it's pretty convenient that he faked a guilty on you, which you also backed up with a claim.
Do you doubt AA's claim?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:12 am

So whose framing you?

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:25 am

In post 5960, Alisae wrote:I think you're wrong with HS.

I think you're wrong with me :V

Human Sequencer · Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:38 am

He said we're vigging the other one.

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:43 am

In post 6111, Creature wrote:All Alone is confirmed town.

drealmerz7 is very likely town.

both are conftown in my eyes

In post 6120, MortFeld wrote:D7 is basically conftown barring scum no-kill shenanigans (hehe HS hehe) which I've learned to ignore. Leaves Creature, Ali, HS, and Mort as unconfirmed.

idgi, did this happen in 1848? my memory is atrocious
i highly doubt scum wouldn't try and go for the doc kill, i think no kill is more likely to avoid the tracker shot

In post 6126, Creature wrote:Scum giving up?

Alisae: No
Creature: Not scum
Human Sequencer:Not scum
MortFeld: Not scum

fixed that for you

In post 6135, Creature wrote:Human already disappeared from the playerlist.

wot

In post 6157, Creature wrote:Oh look, HS is on the playerlist. Making a giant analysis post? Thinking of giving up? Analysing if he still could win as scum?

wot

In post 0, mhsmith0 wrote:
Spoiler: Living Players
Alisae

Creature

drealmerz7

MortFeld (replaces Ircher)

Human Sequencer

ThinkBig (replaces The Rebbe replaces Debi)

All Alone

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:47 am

o ok
i'm in like twenty million games rn, and am on rural australian internet, cut me a break

doesn't really matter i guess, unless dreal is godscum game is won.

VOTE: alisae
id rather this so we don't have to wait the night for you to vig her.
mort, if alisae flips town, vig is better considering the lynch list is literally 0 apart from this and scum will probably keep no-killing

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:48 am

In post 6161, MortFeld wrote:
In post 6158, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 6120, MortFeld wrote:D7 is basically conftown barring scum no-kill shenanigans (hehe HS hehe)
idgi, did this happen in 1848? my memory is atrocious
No, but I pissed everyone off by playing to make sure we still won if it did.

oh yeah that was fucking hilarious, the whole time in the dead thread we were just like 'just fucking lynch nero holy shit'

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:49 am

i'm gonna be really fucking annoyed if i lose to dreal scum here, and i know severa will be too.

dreal, don't be scum kthx

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:50 am

idk what mort looks like as scum but whatever it is it's probably godscum
sk is out of the question based on setup (i think?) so creats is safe. losing to creats here would be horrible too.
man i just really wannna win this game, i don't want to lose to anyone tbh

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:52 am

this whole game has just been burnout tbh.

creats, uzi, mort, everybody, never let me play a large game again. dunn you should know this

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:52 am

In post 6172, MortFeld wrote:I don't know what Mortscum looks like either. Will be interesting to see.

fuck mort stop making me paranoid ;-;

alisae i dont care if you wanna lynch me i need tacklehugz

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:58 am

nothing makes fuggin sense any day

i wish rb were still here

thx i needed that you can lynch me now

TOWN: creats/mort will give you very specific information tomorrow that you MUST FOLLOW to win this game, don't be an edjit plz

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:01 am

vig ends the game quicker

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:02 am

what if the last goon has roleblocker?

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:02 am

directed at mort and creature because i am useless \o/

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:05 am

if last mafia has roleblocker, last mafia 100% would have made a kill last night if they can use both abilities at once

unless zach took a shot n1 and both tb and mafia shot zach

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:07 am

tbh i doubt mafia shot zach last night

yeah, aa plz post

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:37 am

dreal we literally win here

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:38 am

In post 6182, Human Sequencer wrote: TOWN: creats/mort will give you very specific information tomorrow that you MUST FOLLOW to win this game, don't be an edjit plz

dont throw the game plz

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:47 am

In post 6240, Alisae wrote:AA can track me.
TB can shoot Creature.
Or it can be the otherway around.
Either way town wins.

unless scumAli chooses not to nk, ofc

both ali and i have to die in this coming day/night cycle, but it's mighty suspicious that the only configuration alisae puts forward is one that lets her survive one more day

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:50 am

o ok
sorry i have difficulties with basic comprehension

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:08 am

note to townies who are still alive tomorrow: be very careful of scum carrying dreal to endgame

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:55 am

In post 6238, All Alone wrote:I tracked zach. he did not go anywhere obviously

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:56 am

Unless you want him to announce his target which would be silly because that just makes the whole situation wifom

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:56 am

Unless I'm missing something

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:13 am

Regardless of roleblocker/not roleblocker, I still don't see the point of AA claiming his target
Walk me through it?

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:13 am

In post 1, mhsmith0 wrote: A single player may potentially perform up to two actions per night phase. This means that, for instance, a scum player may use an active ability AND kill a target player on the same night.

This is here btw don't remember if it was before

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:20 am

Roleblocker:
1. Scum blocks Dreal and kills AA
2. Scum blocks AA and kills Dreal/TB
AA's track is useless regardless

Non-roleblocker:
1. AA claims to search HS
->HS is town
-->Scum can choose to kill, or no kill to incriminate HS
~
->HS is scum
-->HS no kills and town has to figure out whether they were incriminated or not

You may say that's a pointless waste of time and you should just lynch HS anyway in no kill because we have so many conftowns but that's exactly my point, what pro-town agenda are you pushing here and how does AA claiming his target help town in any way?
I can see a pro-skCreature agenda, fwiw.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:26 am

Is sk impossible w/ two scumteams? I keep forgetting.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:46 am

Did you even read my post.

If I'm wrong in my analysis, tell me how plz?

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:55 am

In post 6292, Creature wrote:idk, Town 1-shot Bulletproof at this setup is like a named townie.

In post 6304, Creature wrote:I doubt a reviewer would let an SK into this setup at this point.

Spot the issue here.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:16 am

Ok.

So what do you make of this?
[quote="In post 6302
Non-roleblocker:
1. AA claims to search HS
->HS is town
-->Scum can choose to kill, or no kill to incriminate HS
~
->HS is scum
-->HS no kills and town has to figure out whether they were incriminated or not[/quote]

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:24 am

Yes.
That is the same steps as if AA does not claim his target.
So what is your town motivation for asking AA to claim his target? I don't see it.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:26 am

Ok you never actually did that, but if that wasn't why you were curious to see why AA was outside of the thread, what was?

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:31 am

Why only tell me this now instead of here? 6298

I was expecting you to tell me that 'I just missed that post' which would check out as you never displayed knowledge of it. Instead you've come out with this now instead of when I started asking you. That doesn't make sense to me.

Your logic is sound fwiw, I forgot about TB, AA should claim his target.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:32 am

And then Creats DOES tell me he missed it.
You can't sell me the bullshit that you missed this.

In post 6295, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 6238, All Alone wrote:I tracked zach. he did not go anywhere obviously

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:32 am

I understand you missing the first, but my quote of it just doesn't make sense. You were here, actively talking to me, in thread.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:44 am

I'm not sure if I misunderstood you earlier and can't get to what you actually meant or if I was right to begin with and you're scum (sk) changing the meaning behind your older posts to give yourself wriggle room.

PEDIT: Probably Dreal tbh. That's not enough, though.
Why do you ask?

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:47 am

With the possibility for sk on the table, both scum could potentially win in this situation. It breaks the town confwin theory.

You asked me who looks most like defeated scum and I answered. Like I said, that's not a read I trust in this climate.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:55 am

You.
Claiming one-shot makes a whole lot of sense because then everybody forgets about your potential kill which you can use to snatch the game back in a final nightphase or something.
You could also be just full on bulletproof (as an aside, this gives dreal's doctor role more weight) which would explain your skyrocketed skill as scum this game.

Creature knows how to be unlynchable, and he knows how to find scum. As sk, he can scumhunt his heart out (doesnt know mafia alignment) in the day phase and not worry about getting picked at night. It offers him a fresh challenge in Mafia, actually improving his scumgame. This explains why he's not quite as obvious as he usually is.

This is me deep in a tunnel, fwiw, and note I said 'possibility'.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:57 am

That doesn't explain creats not shooting N1 though.
Maybe he was blocked, or hit ircher?
Novice claim is weird and needs thinking I'm just incapable of at this point.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:01 am

idk, haven't considered it.

Are you saying TB is likely?

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:01 am

I've just waived the slot as town all game since Rebbe took control of it.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:04 am

ok guys read over debi and see how she talked wrt '3rd faction'

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:07 am

rebbe comes in hardclaims vig, because they know how suss this can look later on in the game and they want to establish themselves as a town power early on for survival.
this is starting to make sense to me.

creats, had you thought of this before? how long have you been onto it?

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:08 am

>start trying again
>almost instantly find reason to question every single read I have
mafia is hard

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:30 am

idk everybody seems pretty on ball to be honest
probs me tbh

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:31 am

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Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:13 am

I'm pretty sure this game is over \o/
VOTE: Human Sequencer
gg everybody, this was my first game as scum and I think I did pretty well all things considered.

I was gonna fight it out, but I don't want to make everybody wait for AA to confirm his target and all that noise.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:37 am

zach I didn't get you until the night you were dead .-.
rc y u hate me -.-
i even said in maf pt i'm sorry for the nk .-.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:37 am

I will never stop saying it

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:39 am

No, I 100% thought you were town.

Bad kill fits a really bad player, I can't tackle the game with the same experience and finesse you have :v

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:40 am

o god everybodys gunna read the scum pt and see how bad i am ha ha

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:42 am

do you know what luck is

do you think love can bloom on the battlefield

i was scared of the tracker pick, i was hoping dreal would be dreal and not protect aa or something idek

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:43 am

Along with seeing how bad I am at mafia, you'll also see that I did actually put thought into everything, it just wasn't the right thought.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:43 am

Also lmao at dunn doing LITERALLY nothing this game.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:48 am

i also made this really shitty salt post in the mafia pt that i'm gonna have to ask smith to redact

smith, please edit out post 282 in the maf pt

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:49 am

I will quote this from it so it isn't lost to the aether

I actually feel horrible for stealing the game away from Severa. Redscum as a whole played incredibly well and deserved the victory far more than I, which makes me feel a little better that town took it in the end. Seriously, if Grey stayed in, Severa didn't die to me (I totally didn't know she was redscum) and Uzi didn't get an unlucky tracker pick, they would have sweeped.

Overall I think I did ok for my first game as scum. Need to focus more on pr hunting, I guess. I focused a lot on looking townie, at the expense of everything else scum needs to win.

This was me initially going to give up at the start of D5 before realizing at the very least it's good practice.

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:51 am

give up what?
the game?
nah i was just getting lynched no question and i didn't feel like i could really learn anything new from the last dp

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:54 am

all game zach was literally 'i have no idea how to read this slot' and uzi was 100% our traitor, zach never crossed our mind, i thought uzi would flip traitor up until i realized he wouldn't have night actions then

then i poed it down to zach in the night phase and then zach died

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:56 am

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Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:56 am

I don't think this is a sensibl e soft

Holy fuck zach I love you so goddamn much

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:57 am

Yeah lets pretend zach is the reason I lost

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:57 am

I cannot wait to read the zach pt holy shit

Human Sequencer · Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:03 am

this game is the scum equivalent of large dance so it's good i got it out of the way first huh

Human Sequencer · Sun Feb 05, 2017 12:25 am

hey here's the most important postgame analysis:

this game was really fun, I really enjoyed playing it, thanks everyone.

Human Sequencer · Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:10 am

AAAAAA losing my sides

Human Sequencer · Sun Feb 05, 2017 4:26 am

in hindsight a lot of 'wow, what the fuck is zach even doing, what a twat' changes to 'oh ok, i see what you were going for there, sorry for fucking everything up'

Human Sequencer · Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:59 am

In post 6490, Zachstralkita wrote:I knew how scummy my Gin push was cause I had to literally pull it out of my ass

this post would be so much better if 'scummy' were replaced with 'shitty'

Human Sequencer · Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:09 pm

'ya hs has absolutely caught on to me'

Human Sequencer · Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:11 pm

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Human Sequencer · Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:19 pm

In post 6511, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Your D1 play still sucks tbh

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Human Sequencer · Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:20 pm

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Human Sequencer · Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:21 pm

Zach tried to crumb his role as Blue traitor in one of his earlier posts, it wasn't very sensibl e

Human Sequencer · Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:23 pm

There's probably a fucking incredible title nomination in there somewhere that I'll leave somebody smarter than I to figure out.

Human Sequencer · Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:13 am

idk who it is but i miss the dude with the cigarette

Human Sequencer · Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:26 am

i think going back to cigarette dude would be a sensibl e decision

Human Sequencer · Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:56 pm

zach's new avi is spectacular
keep being cool my dude

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:02 am

In post 1288, rb wrote:
In post 1285, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
In post 1271, Human Sequencer wrote:See, that explanation checks out perfectly. Now try and understand why I'm scumreading you for not picking up on that earlier. If you posted that a few posts ago (as opposed to writing me off as confbiased), we wouldn't be at such an impasse.
This feels like a loaded statement from my perspective because it seems like you're asking me to say why people should think I'm scum.
HS is pretty good as town isn't he?

i like to think it's because of me but really it's because you're scum

HEHEHEHE

rb what do you think of this, do you think your read on me was sensibl e

Human Sequencer · Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:39 pm

ya i agree 100% tbh