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[Creature]

Realize that you're using meta too early and it's looking like you're using it for opportunistic purposes, otherwise you would've let the game go on a bit more before actually showing your meta analysis on me.

[Creature]

"X does Y as town" "X doesn't do Z as town"

Using that early is a great way to make the tell uneffective.

[Creature]

rb - idk
Alisae - scummy af
ssbm_Kyouko - townlean, post moar
TheRealGin-N-Tonic - idk
Lil Uzi Vert - town
Gamma Emerald - post moar, likely flake slot tbh
Zachstralkita - literally nothing
Creature - scummy
drealmerz7 - lol
Ircher - towny
Pine - towny kinda
Human Sequencer - lol
-Grey- - idk
Wraith - scummy af
SlickDilinger - great post my dude
Debi - town af
EchoVision - scummy
Dunnstral - idk can't ever read dunn fuck you
All Alone - lol

Feel free to ask my reasoning on any of these, if I miss it, ask again.

Point one scumread here that doesn't fit the category of "lynchbait"

[Creature]

For anyone

What do you think about Human Sequencer?

[Human Sequencer]

Except I literally did that in Wave. I had only known of the existence of a player named Creature for one in real life day, and then came with a correct read of his alignment in about two hours.
Required reading: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8592390 and onward. Just iso HS/Creature.

You're saying I shouldn't post my scumread on you, because it's a trust tell. What motivation would I have for not posting my reads as I have them?
Literally all I've done is post that I scumread you. I've barely even said why (I will admit I had flaky, subjective reasoning, but that's becoming a lot less true the more I interact with you). townCreature would be interested in why I scumread him, and use it as leverage to try and understand my slot better. Creature isn't confrontational. scumCreature is scared. He's doing his best to discredit my read, because he's aware it's legitimate and scared of me pushing it into a lynch, which is why he's going against his confrontational personality to discredit my reads-- out of desperation.

He's dismissed my reads as sucky, called it a trust tell and implied that I'm scum with ulterior motive all one after the other. What's the town motivation for this? Creature doesn't have one, because he didn't do -any- of this to anybody else who scumread him. It's not like I was pushing him any harder than anybody else, either (although I am now), he was an aside in my wallpost and under 'scummy' in my readslist.

VOTE: Creature

PEDIT: I did not do that. I don't believe in that kind of meta read. I think understanding somebody's personality is the first step to understanding what drives them and motivates them as -both- factions. It's not about what you do as town or scum. It's about the kind of person you are and how you would react to this very situation as town or scum.

PEDIT2: Creature, Wraith, Echovision (has anybody else even scumread that slot?)
>implying lynchbait are always town

[Human Sequencer]

You can't claim that your reaction to my scumread over the ones put forth by {uzi, alisae, wraith} is town motivated because you think I'm scum, because I've only been in this game for one IRL day and that would be a trust tell :^)

[Creature]

Guess who's misinterpreting things.

[Creature]

lol if you could tell my alignment straight away from one real life day, it would be a trust tell.

"The only way to find out someone's scum straight away is if that someone is using a trust tell"

[Creature]

I bet your meta is off one or two town games.

[Human Sequencer]

So am I scum pushing a mislynch, or town misinterpreting things?

Why did you ask the question you asked in 528? It seems like you're looking for support in your scumread, and you imply in 525 that I may have scummy ulterior motives. That doesn't jive with a Human that's 'misinterpreting things'.

He's dismissed my reads as sucky, called it a trust tell and implied that I'm scum with ulterior motive all one after the other. What's the town motivation for this?

[Human Sequencer]

I bet your meta is off one or two town games.

M O R E D I S C R E D I T

[Creature]

I can call off your read on me because it looks opportunistic, so your read on Alisae, which I would expect you to take a deeper look, on Wraith, which you would also look at his playstyle, and EchoVision, the same as the other two.

[Creature]

So am I scum pushing a mislynch, or town misinterpreting things?

Scum making town misinterpret.

[-Grey-]

Before I do, do you think me not having a read on you at the moment is alignment indicative?

I'll answer you after you give me a read.

Don't worry, it'll make sense. I just don't want my answer to influence the read I asked for.

[Creature]

Why did you ask the question you asked in 528? It seems like you're looking for support in your scumread

Thought town's supposed to get scumreads and push them.

[Creature]

He's dismissed my reads as sucky, called it a trust tell and implied that I'm scum with ulterior motive all one after the other. What's the town motivation for this?

Say you're an unconfirmed town, the other two town are confirmed and they're both voting the other unconfirmed player that in your pov must be scum. Do you hammer or waste town time with more explanations?

[Human Sequencer]

Hammer? How is this relevant?

[Creature]

Yes. You could also try to explain why that player is scum, but you know it is scum and you're just picking its posts and incriminating them.

At this case, I'm not so confident on you being scum, but I already got that feeling when you posted your reads and I don't need to pick all your other posts and incriminate them.

[Human Sequencer]

ok lmao
nice irrelevant fact that doesn't explain your motivation for calling my reads shite and otherwise discrediting me fifteen thousand times at all

ok grey gimmie a sex things happened

[Human Sequencer]

^totally intentional trust me

[Creature]

nice irrelevant fact that doesn't explain your motivation for calling my reads shite and otherwise discrediting me fifteen thousand times at all

I think your reads come from scum.

[Creature]

Alisae: Never completed a game with me
LUV: Never completed a game with me (I think)
Grey: Never completed a game with me
Human Sequencer: Claims extra meta knowledge

[Creature]

Oh, there are also Gin and Pine, they claim they know I lurk a lot as scum, yet it looks like they're trying to find a good reason to still scumread me even if I'm not lurking.

[Creature]

Come with more walls, I only need one line to break each of them anyway.

[Creature]

Let's test:
If you know my meta very well, how do I play as town and how do I play as scum?