Mini 1869- camn's revenge GAME OVER!

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Also going under the pretense that you're town.

Nacho lynched D1 revealed town
Mastin killed N1 (WIFOM for not killing defacto mislynch)
Now we're at D2 and we can magically trust that fate is town because you two died?

The theory doesn't make sense at all and I don't see why playing the game normal would be less beneficial than this crackpot theory you got going on.

[mastina]

So mastin, what you propose is to not actually scum hunt but bob for apples?

What can I say, I'm

Pining

for more info.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

[Prism]

I know 0 about Pine or camn but even if I did I'm not playing based off speculation. Scum has a clear advantage in the WIFOM game. I'm sure Pine drafted a subjective allstar, who we'll nail easily after mislynching the other two or three. Speculate if you think it helps but I'm playing this as I would any other game. Chances are, however many times it'd take you to guess the team is about the same number it'd take RNG on average to get the team.

First instinct is that drealm is town based off his reason to not be picked, but I'll doublecheck the meta in a day or two. This isn't really a read question but more out of curiosity:

pine made a huge mistake letting nacho and prism team up I think

Why? This is funny because me/Nacho are about to start a game as a hydra but first I don't know if you knew that and second I'm not sure how you came to any conclusion about me/camn or me/Nacho as I've played with neither before. Your game with me was my second ever game; this is my third.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

pine made a huge mistake letting nacho and prism team up I think

Did you just say these two were on the same team?

[mastina]

I don't see why playing the game normal would be less beneficial than this crackpot theory you got going on.

Because this game is explicitly not normal.

Pine got to control his scumteam.

Assuming he just used random.org to roll the die for his scumteam is an inherently flawed and faulty assumption.

Maybe for a third pick, I can see him POSSIBLY doing that. He'd have two players he really wanted scum and/or two players he really didn't want camn making town, so after that it becomes possible in theory for his last, third, pick to be random. But even there I'm being extra-generous. The most likely thing for Pine to do is to pick each member individually, most likely because he knows of them from past experience.

He had three chances to pick me; he did not.
That tells me a lot about the setup he'd go for right then and there. (Keeping in mind camn wouldn't have picked me as town because she doesn't know me.)

So yes.
I am playing non-randomly. I am making non-random assumptions. Because this game is, explicitly, non-random. As a result, I am assuming Pine picked players he is familiar with and would trust to carry the game. I also assumed he would pick players he'd want to deny the town from having in their grasp. Yet I also know that camn has at least vaguely similar experiences to Pine in regards to the most major of the players here: Fate and Nacho.

Ergo, one is scum because Pine got first dibs on the draft and would have selected one of them...
...And the other is town because camn would have selected one of them as her first pick for town.
And the rest of the scumteam is made up of other such players Pine knows of and would trust.

Aeronaut pinged as a possibility, and so did you. Your actions thusfar in the game have only served to solidify this.

[Secret Agent Jin]

Golden Rule Reiterated
Again, remember to have fun! =D Don’t get personal. I will modkill you.

*gets personal*

You arent going to mod kill me right Camn? Right?

[Prism]

pine made a huge mistake letting nacho and prism team up I think

Did you just say these two were on the same team?

I question the intent of this post. I didn't give the post link in my quote. You found the original post, where it clearly speculates a possible draft.

VOTE: Gin N Tonic

[mastina]

Like, I've never played a game with TheRealGin-N-Tonic before.

But.
He looks like obvscum.
So I'm pretty sure. He's just actually scum, and that this isn't merely a playstyle thingy here.

[mastina]

ONE OF: Fate/Nachomamma (Fate?)
Btd6_maker
Prism
pisskop
SirCakez
Vaxkiller

drealmerz
Monokuma
Secret Agent Jin

Aeronaut
The RealGin-N-Tonic

THE OTHER OF: Nachomamma/Fate (Nacho?)

[Prism]

Can you explain why he is obvscum, without using the point I just made?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I don't see why playing the game normal would be less beneficial than this crackpot theory you got going on.

Because this game is explicitly not normal.

Pine got to control his scumteam.

Assuming he just used random.org to roll the die for his scumteam is an inherently flawed and faulty assumption.

Maybe for a third pick, I can see him POSSIBLY doing that. He'd have two players he really wanted scum and/or two players he really didn't want camn making town, so after that it becomes possible in theory for his last, third, pick to be random. But even there I'm being extra-generous. The most likely thing for Pine to do is to pick each member individually, most likely because he knows of them from past experience.

He had three chances to pick me; he did not.
That tells me a lot about the setup he'd go for right then and there. (Keeping in mind camn wouldn't have picked me as town because she doesn't know me.)

So yes.
I am playing non-randomly. I am making non-random assumptions. Because this game is, explicitly, non-random. As a result, I am assuming Pine picked players he is familiar with and would trust to carry the game. I also assumed he would pick players he'd want to deny the town from having in their grasp. Yet I also know that camn has at least vaguely similar experiences to Pine in regards to the most major of the players here: Fate and Nacho.

Ergo, one is scum because Pine got first dibs on the draft and would have selected one of them...
...And the other is town because camn would have selected one of them as her first pick for town.
And the rest of the scumteam is made up of other such players Pine knows of and would trust.

Aeronaut pinged as a possibility, and so did you. Your actions thusfar in the game have only served to solidify this.

So you're telling me you scum read me for not having any knowledge of the history between Pine and his other compatriots and then also not agreeing with your theory when:

1) From my perspective, by doing this PoE from the start, you allow easy mislynches and disallow people to form reads on players which isn't helpful later game
2) Pine is manipulative and if I can think to make all the player's he's gone way back with as town so they WIFOM lynch each other, I'd do it and I don't doubt he would either.

I just don't think you're thinking clearly here. It doesn't matter who Pine talks to because it's NAI. You have to realize that if Pine could pick the scum team, that means he's picking the players who he thinks could work together as their own unit, regardless if Pine himself was in the game or not.

[Pine]

ONE OF: Fate/Nachomamma (Fate?)
Btd6_maker
Prism
pisskop
SirCakez
Vaxkiller

drealmerz
Monokuma
Secret Agent Jin

Aeronaut
The RealGin-N-Tonic

THE OTHER OF: Nachomamma/Fate (Nacho?)

I have absolutely no idea what the formatting is of these posts. Can you label them, here or in the main thread, so I can respond to them appropriately?

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Like, I've never played a game with TheRealGin-N-Tonic before.

But.
He looks like obvscum.
So I'm pretty sure. He's just actually scum, and that this isn't merely a playstyle thingy here.

Not going to lie (that's what I'd be saying if I was lying lmao)

What you just said is my town tell

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

pine made a huge mistake letting nacho and prism team up I think

Did you just say these two were on the same team?

I question the intent of this post. I didn't give the post link in my quote. You found the original post, where it clearly speculates a possible draft.

VOTE: Gin N Tonic

Twas a question, not a declaration, simply asking for confirmation before I possibly cast damnation.

[Pine]

Clever.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

If I had a post-restriction of talking in poetry I would die of happiness because oh my god can I write some badass lines

[Prism]

I take it back, sometimes the WIFOM game is worth playing. If this guy keeps posting at this rate I might get the scumteam without reading a single other person.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

Prism are you talking about me?

[Prism]

If you're worrying that you've already ratted out the whole team, have no fear, I'm talking about Pine.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I was really confused because you said I was scum.

[Pine]

I take it back, sometimes the WIFOM game is worth playing. If this guy keeps posting at this rate I might get the scumteam without reading a single other person.

Yeah, good luck with that. There's a reason I'm in this position.

So, Miss* Magic Reads, what do you think so far?

*Presuming due to feminine avatar, no pronoun listed.

[Prism]

I still fail to see how you quote the post, by actually using the button, without seeing the speculative draft immediately above it.

Yeah, good luck with that. There's a reason I'm in this position.

So, Miss* Magic Reads, what do you think so far?

*Presuming due to feminine avatar, no pronoun listed.

I think I'm going to crush you.

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

I'll be honest I don't care about speculation at all

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

ALSO