drealmerz7's Mini Normal Review

[drealmerz7]

It's a cold night in October, 1923. The streets of Boston are a dark and dangerous place to be this time of night, but a group of "care-free" types roam the streets unaware of the night ahead about to unfold.

What started as soft rain just minutes ago has turned into a whipping, stinging rain, and a violent storm approaches fast. The care-free types are caught out in it and scurry fast down an alley and seek out the closest establishment with light in the window. When they burst in the energy of the group grows immediately tense. The newcomers stare at those already here, and those already here stare back.
Suddenly, a simultaneous flash of lightning and crash of thunder and veil of darkness is upon them all. Quickly someone lights a match and then a lantern with the match. They move light a few others across the room and before long the room is re-illuminated.
There is a scream from someone as they notice a dead hooker laying on the floor, a bullet through her chest. A man speaks in a loud voice.

"Which of you here did this?! You will pay with your life! She was a top trick! You must figure out who among you did this and tell me your decision. You have one hour!" He goes up a set of stairs and enters a room and shuts the door. You all hear it lock.

[drealmerz7]

1hour will be 1Day (:

he will come out of his room at varying times and be like "wtf is going on?!" with some flavor bits - that's okay ya? in the VCs maybe?

[drealmerz7]

oh, also wondering what everyone uses for randomizing roles

[Firebringer]

random.org

[drealmerz7]

yepyep

[drealmerz7]

TOWN:

Jailer
1-shot BulletProof 3-shot Doctor
1-shot Vigilante
BodyGuard
Compulsive BodyGuard
VT
VT
VT
VT

MAFIA:

2-shot Strongman Mafia Roleblocker - can't use strongman+RB on same Night
1-shot Strongman Mafia Doctor - can't use strongman+doc on same Night
Mafia Goon

2-shot Strongman Serial Killer

[drealmerz7]

how does strongman work against doctor if he is BP+BodyGuarded? still kill or just removes the BP+kills BG?

[drealmerz7]

or is it up to me?

[mhsmith0]

TOWN:

Jailer
1-shot BulletProof 3-shot Doctor
1-shot Vigilante
BodyGuard
Compulsive BodyGuard
VT
VT
VT
VT

MAFIA:

2-shot Strongman Mafia Roleblocker - can't use strongman+RB on same Night
1-shot Strongman Mafia Doctor - can't use strongman+doc on same Night
Mafia Goon

2-shot Strongman Serial Killer

GroupScumsided.
1) Make the sk 2-shot bp

2) scum get ONE role not multiple, so you get
Goon
Mafia doctor
Mafia 1-shot strongman (they do NOT need a Roleblocker here)

3) town needs a boost
Jailer
Bodyguard (low utility)
Compulsive bodyguard (debatably NU role)
3-shot doctor (combined roles that aren't JOATS are weird and possibly non-normal)
JOAT (cop / vig / commuter)
4x vt

Off the cuff, that seems closer to balanced.

[mhsmith0]

I'm also fine with cutting scum to two players and substantially nerfing town power; 10/2/1 is relatively common.

I'll look up 9/3/1 setups that have run and try and get better comparisons over the weekend.

[drealmerz7]

it's not about scum needing a roleblocker, it's about options and interesting interaction potentials, and fun for the players, without really affecting how it helps either team too much - it's main function will be adding to the increased chances that the vigilante or serial killer fail

[drealmerz7]

with some modwifom for kill fails mixed with the BGs, jail, doc, etc.

mixed with modwifom kill succeeds with strongmans

funfun I think

[drealmerz7]

if they focus on the mechanics, town will fail

that is also how I think my setups will always be inherently

they need to scumhunt, first and foremost

I know smith and I talked about this and I know you think then I should just remove PRs and make them focus on it

but hey, 4VTs should be pullinig that weight no problem, with BGs who are supposed to put themselves out there a bit, soo, that is 6 villagers on the "front lines" getting hackedtopieces

[drealmerz7]

I do think I had a bulletproof on the SK before, not sure where it went

[drealmerz7]

maybe I just figured bgs and doc and jailer were enough for him

[drealmerz7]

and giving the SK BPs also makes it a good amount harder for town

if anything give it 1, but still considering 0

[drealmerz7]

to make it more lean towards town I was also considering making one of the BGs +BP !!

[drealmerz7]

so, my issue with the phrasing of the ability use...any input?

should I just go ahead and say "at Night you may target a player and attempt to Jail them" ?

the word "attempt" is okay?

[drealmerz7]

attempt to kill

attempt to heal

[Firebringer]

attempt is fine

[drealmerz7]

okay tell me how much you hate the balance of this:

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #Player#!

you are a

1-shot

BulletProof

Town

JailKeeper

- at Night you may select one player and attempt to jailkeep them.

- you also have the power of a vote! Use it wisely.

- you win when all threats to town have been eliminated and at least 1 town player lives

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are a

2-shot Town

Doctor

- two times during the game, at Night, you may select a player to try and protect from a kill.

- you also have the power of a vote! Use it wisely.

- you win when all threats to town have been eliminated and at least 1 town player lives

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are a

1-shot Town

Vigilante

- once during the game, at Night, you may select a player to try and kill.

- you also have the power of a vote! Use it wisely.

- you win when all threats to town have been eliminated and at least 1 town player lives

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are a

1-shot

BulletProof

Town

Compulsive

BodyGuard

- at Night, you

MUST

select a player to try and guard

- you also have the power of a vote. Use it wisely.

- you win when all threats to town have been eliminated and at least 1 town player lives

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are a

Town

BodyGuard

- at Night you may select a player to try and guard

- you also have the power of a vote! Use it wisely.

- you win when all threats to town have been eliminated and at least 1 town player lives

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

3x:

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are

Vanilla Town

- your power is your vote, use it wisely!

- you win when all threats to town have been eliminated and at least 1 town player lives

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are a

1-shot

Strongman Mafia 2-shot

Doctor

- you MAY NOT use the Strongman modifier on a Night you use the Doctor ability

- your teammates are:

#player#2

,

#player#3

,

#player#4

- your team has acces to #Night-Chat#

- you also have the power of a vote! Use it wisely.

- you win when nothing can stop Mafia from being in control

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are a

1-shot

Strongman

Mafia 2-shot

RoleBlocker

- you MAY NOT use the Strongman modifier on a Night you use the Roleblock ability

- your teammates are:

#player#1

,

#player#3

,

#player#4

- your team has acces to #Night-Chat#

- you also have the power of a vote! Use it wisely.

- you win when nothing can stop Mafia from being in control

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

2x:

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are

Mafia

- your teammates are:

#player#1

,

#player#2

,

#player#4

- your team has acces to #Night-Chat#

- you also have the power of a vote! Use it wisely.

- you win when nothing can stop Mafia from being in control

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are a

Serial Killer

with a 2x strongman modifier to apply to two NightKills

- you also have the power of a vote! Use it wisely.

- you win when all other players are dead

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

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ROLE PM

Welcome to mini-normal ####, #player#!

you are

Vanilla Town

- your power is your vote, use it wisely!

- you win when all threats to town have been eliminated and at least 1 town player lives

ENJOY!!!

please respond with confirmation that you understand your role and alignment, or with questions if not

[Nexus]

bleh. all the BPs and RBing flying around is going to be super unfun for players, I think.

Yes, you have the strongman to bust through, but the BP Bodyguard is quite an overpowered role.

[drealmerz7]

well with it being 8v4v1, I was trying to give town a bit more weight with the BP BG

I think it could be very fun, players just have to learn not to rely on mechanics giving them the answers. I would find it fun

[mhsmith0]

Isn't it 8/3/1 or 9/3/1? I didn't see the fourth scum.