Micro 679: Double Day Unlimited Hydra Blitz! ~ Endgame

[KittyMo]

No.

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

So this is my strongest read right now.
VOTE: Sword
It is seriously telling that they hammered Penguinos > Mantis.
-Alter Ego

[Elsa and Anna]

Chi I really feel like you knew that the slot was flipping town and did a poor job of covering it up. How were you so sure that the guy was town because I *really* do not see it.

[Elsa and Anna]

Why was SoD supposed to have hammered Mantis?

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

I don't think that make a whole lot of sense considering we were scumreading them way earlier.
-Alter Ego

pedit: If I was scum I would hammer my scumbuddy there.

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69969
In this game AJ was the clear mislynch. Before lylo the wagons that were at L-1 were trans and AJ.
Cloudie hammered the AJ wagon.
Scum in this case was Trans and Cloudie
-Alter Ego

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

So I've been thinking that no scumteam with us in it actually makes sense if Penguinos is town.

Chihi/E&A is laughable at this stage
Chihi/Mantis might be possible, but RC claims to townread Mantis now, and idunno how it came across when I voted them but I definitely had intent to lynch and if they flipped town lynch E&A, which is a stupid sentiment to bother putting out there if it were Chihi/Mantis because A) Mantis would flip scum and therefore I'd have to hard townread E&A, and B) it clearly antagonized them, which is a dumb move to do as scum with E&A town fullstop.
Chihi/Sword would have been possible before Ari's slimy ass flip on his read of my slot.
Chihi/L&R would then be the only possibility I think? Which at least in L&R's case they know it's wrong.

In any case, when two slots are deathtunneling each other you don't just go and vote elsewhere nor do you hammer someone outside of the 1v1. There's too much scum motivation there for it to have come from town ever.

--Jae

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

Chi I really feel like you knew that the slot was flipping town and did a poor job of covering it up. How were you so sure that the guy was town because I *really* do not see it.

I already gave my reasoning for this and now it just feels like you're posturing.

Honestly, I feel like you wanted me to change my opinion of you being scum before we were mislynched so that you wouldn't get lynched upon our townflip. FA's "you're better than this" back at me is also pretty telling as she of all people knows that I am indeed not a scumhunting god. I blew lylo in her game and I also blew it in Shadowrun in a pretty major way. Her experience with me is in no way "better than this" in the case of a town!E&A, but I just don't think E&A is town.

[Sword of Damocles]

We have 20 hours and RC has said he will selfvote soon.
Whether true or not, I'd rather it not occur.

*fingers crossed this is scum*

VOTE: Penguinos

Sorry for not consulting you, Smart!

- Ari

Apology accepted. It was a completely reasonable choice, and in addition it produced the obvscum 1549.

Even before Alter Ego turned on us, I thought it was Mantis/C&AE. I guess we'll see if there's a quickhammer. If there isn't by morning, I'll definitely be around to cross.
-smart

[Sword of Damocles]

Chihi/Mantis might be possible, but RC claims to townread Mantis now, and idunno how it came across when I voted them but I definitely had intent to lynch and if they flipped town lynch E&A, which is a stupid sentiment to bother putting out there if it were Chihi/Mantis because A) Mantis would flip scum and therefore I'd have to hard townread E&A, and B) it clearly antagonized them, which is a dumb move to do as scum with E&A town fullstop.

Scum tend to talk too much about their partners.
-smart

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

We have 20 hours and RC has said he will selfvote soon.
Whether true or not, I'd rather it not occur.

*fingers crossed this is scum*

VOTE: Penguinos

Sorry for not consulting you, Smart!

- Ari

Apology accepted. It was a completely reasonable choice, and in addition it produced the obvscum 1549.

Even before Alter Ego turned on us

, I thought it was Mantis/C&AE. I guess we'll see if there's a quickhammer. If there isn't by morning, I'll definitely be around to cross.
-smart

Few things that is wrong and scummy with this post.
A. Really comes off as the reason they hammered Penguinos: to line up the Mantis mislynch.
B. Fake feeling of betrayal in the bold.

-Alter Ego

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

Chihi/Mantis might be possible, but RC claims to townread Mantis now, and idunno how it came across when I voted them but I definitely had intent to lynch and if they flipped town lynch E&A, which is a stupid sentiment to bother putting out there if it were Chihi/Mantis because A) Mantis would flip scum and therefore I'd have to hard townread E&A, and B) it clearly antagonized them, which is a dumb move to do as scum with E&A town fullstop.

Scum tend to talk too much about their partners.
-smart

"Oh look, I'm scum, so let's throw some shade at these guys."
-Alter Ego

[Sword of Damocles]

A. Right so that's why the other head, who was gone all day, cited a post that came after the hammer in order to execute that plan.
B. Who said it was betrayal? I've been scumreading you for a while. All it implied was a sharp read change, which it certainly was.
-smart

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

Also you should always be crossing here anyway. The fact that you're not, yet not appealing to us to unvote, shows you're actually not scared of a quickhammer.

[Sword of Damocles]

It doesn't seem like you're likely to unvote. So,
VOTE: Chihiro and Alter Ego
Praying for no quickhammer.
-smart

[Sword of Damocles]

Lol.
-smart

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

A. Bruuuuuuuuuuuuh. It feels like you and E&A have been trying to plant a target on Mantis all fucking day.
B. Tone. Saying that I turned on you implies betrayal.
-Alter Ego

[Elsa and Anna]

I sincerely don't see Mantis/L&R so I guess I'm fine with this 1v1.

Mantis, I could use your thoughts.

[Sword of Damocles]

A. So you feel like my play was geared more toward mislynching Mantis than you?
B. It actually doesn't; it's just the best phrase I could come up with quickly to accurately describe the situation. But even if it did imply betrayal, what about said betrayal would be considered fake?
Honestly after all the derp this game has been through, I'm okay just fixating on what I believe to be the highest-probability scumteam and refusing to second-guess myself. And although it is very hard to put absolute trust in RC as he pointed out, it's probably better that I do it.
-smart

[Elsa and Anna]

I will be really pissed if this is L&R and SoD and they won just by not putting themselves out there at all.

[Chihiro and Alter Ego]

Chihi/Mantis might be possible, but RC claims to townread Mantis now, and idunno how it came across when I voted them but I definitely had intent to lynch and if they flipped town lynch E&A, which is a stupid sentiment to bother putting out there if it were Chihi/Mantis because A) Mantis would flip scum and therefore I'd have to hard townread E&A, and B) it clearly antagonized them, which is a dumb move to do as scum with E&A town fullstop.

Scum tend to talk too much about their partners.
-smart

A quick point on this though, this was a comment on me musing whether anyone could actually see us teamed with anyone in the game. Instead of addressing any of the actual content it was a blind shadethrow at the amount.

Also, I believe I'm predisposed to talk less about my partners directly? Dunn might have a better idea on that point.

Jae

[Elsa and Anna]

Actually either way I think it's one of you and the lurkfuck hydra.

[Elsa and Anna]

FA is up. we're dealing with this now.

[RadiantCowbells]

So Chihiro: you said that you thought that we were scum breaking up the townblock when we pushed on Mantis.

What was our motivation in doing so, with two lynches to go and no one scumreading us whatsoever at that point?

[RadiantCowbells]

So Chihiro: you said that you thought that we were scum breaking up the townblock when we pushed on Mantis.

What was our motivation in doing so, with two lynches to go and no one scumreading us whatsoever at that point?