Does the clique meta affect games?
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Ill worded but there's definitely a similar effect
I'm categorically less likely to townread a capable player who I haven't played with much (lack of a 'feel' for their playstyle / idea of their ability as scum) honestly.
Fmpov I don't think it's an issue of specifically wanting to play within cliques--probably more so lower level of confidence in playing to wincon with unknown factors around
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Yeah I'd say cliques play a lot into things. First time I played a normal with Boonskiies and his "boon babes" I had no idea wtf was going on. I had fun with it though. And now I enjoy playing games with some of those people.
I think there are some games i shy away from because of the group's that are in there, cause I feel like their relations with Each other would over power my Game play/experience.GTKAS
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this is something i was going to talk about in the how to be good town thread but never got round to posting
it was mentioned a lot that charisma is essential to leading town to success
however, ive noticed player reputation seems to trump that because player X thinks player y is amazing town, ill just sheep or tunnel at the slightest sign of scum
when that happens, there is no telling them-
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Yeah there's definitely a ~dark side~ to sheeping. I'll be the first one to sheep when it's called for but just following the most charismatic player or the player-who-is-best-at-town off a cliff is bad as...-
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I have literally seen things like "I don't want to argue with them because it will ruin my friendship" and "I don't want to lynch them since I like them" of course that could also just be things that scum say....
Being likable and friendly are good ways to not get lynched. We are only human so a players status with another player will affect how we read/interact said slot. Of course, there's the hubris effect where one says they can read a slot b/c they know the person. But I think if you are not lynching players just b/c they are your friends then its playing against your wincon (if you are town)Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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that is because you are the worstIn post 13, Ranmaru wrote:i'm totally fine with lynching my friends if i scum read them
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In post 6, the worst wrote:Ill worded but there's definitely a similar effect
I'm categorically less likely to townread a capable player who I haven't played with much (lack of a 'feel' for their playstyle / idea of their ability as scum) honestly.
Fmpov I don't think it's an issue of specifically wanting to play within cliques--probably more so lower level of confidence in playing to wincon with unknown factors around
Happy for people to shoot me down here. just doin some stimulatin
well done.
Can you tell me a story about a "capable player" who you played with? What made them stand out in your mind as capable?-
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Yeah I totally agree. I would add that there is also hubris about the idea of "status" itself.In post 12, Nero Cain wrote:I have literally seen things like "I don't want to argue with them because it will ruin my friendship" and "I don't want to lynch them since I like them" of course that could also just be things that scum say....
Being likable and friendly are good ways to not get lynched. We are only human so a players status with another player will affect how we read/interact said slot. Of course, there's the hubris effect where one says they can read a slot b/c they know the person. But I think if you are not lynching players just b/c they are your friends then its playing against your wincon (if you are town)
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