Micro 839: Two-in-One (its over)

[Persivul]

1) Why did you claim an investigative in C14, unprovoked? Nobody was even talking about C14.

That's absolute bullshit. In the immediately preceding post, I talked about C14, and I gave the pros for PRs to claim.

[Taly]

Why would you

Pers

? I don't understand what the pros are?

And do you not have an opinion on

Pine/xyzzy

in C14?

[Taly]

Give me one really good reason why any CC should happen right now.

[Pine]

Wow, there’s just...a whole bunch of strawman from Taly that I don’t have the ability to unpack in a phonepost. That said, the vast majority of the explanations demanded I’ve already given

[Taly]

oh, so we're using buzzwords to belittle any actual arguments I make now?

VOTE: C14 Pine

[Taly]

If someone actually looked an inch into any C14-oriented posts I've made this dayphase so far; if you don't think I'm confscum for some misconstrued reason, then it's not hard to figure me out here.

[Pine]

“Strawman” is not a buzzword when it describes a fallacious argument that you then attack. It’s a descriptor.

Also, I think there’s a solid chance Town is going to lose, because I have a hard time seeing scum!Taly justifying this blitz.

Taly

We are in LYLO

Please be careful with your vote

I am a non-counterclaimed PR in an Open game

[Pine]

If someone actually looked an inch into any C14-oriented posts I've made this dayphase so far; if you don't think I'm confscum for some misconstrued reason, then it's not hard to figure me out here.

Wait, so are you countering Seer?

I’ll go 1v1 with you any time you want

[Taly]

Then tell me who you think the other two scum are.

p-edit

If someone actually looked an inch into any C14-oriented posts I've made this dayphase so far; if you don't think I'm confscum for some misconstrued reason, then it's not hard to figure me out here.

Wait, so are you countering Seer?

I’ll go 1v1 with you any time you want

Ugh god... this is becoming stupid.

[Pine]

I *don’t know yet* who the scum are. That’s the point of being uninformed majority.

[Taly]

That's the point of being scum in lylo when you know there's a valid argument against you and you realize that it's going to be very hard to mislynch me in C14.

[Pine]

imo irrelephant is lying

Calling it.

xyzzy is bussing Irrelephant here.

This remains my best guess, by the way.

[Taly]

Me/Elsa/Maki - The three Maria's sipping tea

[Pine]

Taly, please claim. We’re in LYLO, and xyzzy says you claimed Cop, while you just softed Seer.

Pick a position. You’re otherwise just muddying the waters.

[Taly]

imo irrelephant is lying

Calling it.

xyzzy is bussing Irrelephant here.

This remains my best guess, by the way.

Remind me of your individual reason of thinking

Irrelephant

is scum, again? I don't think you've ever pushed that.

And also, we BOTH agree

xyzzy

is very likely scum/scum.

Where's your vote on him? And beckon call for me to L-1?

[Pine]

My vote isn’t on him because - again - it’s LYLO. I don’t make votes I’m not 100% on in a LYLO.

I don’t have an individual reason on Irre. This is a read on xyzzy, which appears to incriminate Irre

[Pine]

Seriously, Taly. Unvote and commit to a claim. I can’t take you seriously until you commit to a claim.

[Pine]

If you’re countering me, then I will mercilessly lynch you.

If you’re countering Irre, you and I need to get on the same page and lynch Irre.

If you’re a VT, as I suspect, you need to clear the air.

[Taly]

Taly, please claim. We’re in LYLO, and xyzzy says you claimed Cop, while you just softed Seer.

I never said

"seer"

in my post or alluded to a CC on you at all. So I don't know why you automatically thought I was softing anything, or CC'ed you.

The

"I'll 1v1 you right now"

seems both forced and weak considering you haven't even read my case yet.

I'd like

Ire/Pers/you/xyzzy

to ALL give me a reason why all claims should happen WHEN 2 mafia are left?

There's 2 invest roles in C14 if I understand the setup correctly, but there's no guarantee both invest roles are functional.

[Pine]

If someone actually looked an inch into any C14-oriented posts I've made this dayphase so far; if you don't think I'm confscum for some misconstrued reason, then it's not hard to figure me out here.

This is a pretty strong soft towards a Seer CC.

Confirm it and we gladiate. Deny it and I apologize for misunderstanding.

[Pine]

Claims happen in LYLO. I don’t need a stronger reason than that, and neither do they. Stop deflecting.

[Taly]

You misunderstood that post, alongside literally any other post I've made this dayphase.

[Taly]

I don't trust any L-1 vote until

Elsa/Maki

weigh in.

[Pine]

Then deny Seer.

[Taly]

So you can have a reason to NK me tonight?

Don't think so.