Mafia 78: Meta Breaking Mafia 1 - Game over!

[Ectomancer]

You and Elias really crawled out the woodwork this time, eh ?

uh...I usually am playing in 3-4 games at one time. I got NKed N1 in 3 games in a row recently.

vote: ABR

Bandwagon to Victory!

Were you town in all 3 games?

[Guardian]

Vote Count #1

pickemgenius[3] (Albert, Machiavellian-Mafia, Ectomancer)
Albert[3] (pickemgenius, Adel, Elias_the_thief)
Ectomancer[1] (Kison)
Rosso Carne[1] (Tarhalindur)
shaft.ed[1] (farside22)
Elias_the_thief[1] (the silent speaker)
CoolBot[1] (Surye)

Not Voting[4]: (CoolBot, Rosso Carne, camisade, shaft.ed)

[Surye]

oh wow, another San Diego scummer. Howdy! Are you attending college here or in the military?

Currently attending Grossmont College (now all my stalkers know!), nice to see another SD scummer

[CoolBot]

Whoops, must remember to preview.

vote: Albert B. Rampage

[Elias_the_thief]

You and Elias really crawled out the woodwork this time, eh ?

uh...I usually am playing in 3-4 games at one time. I got NKed N1 in 3 games in a row recently.

vote: ABR

Bandwagon to Victory!

Were you town in all 3 games?

yes, though I dont see how thats relevant.

[Surye]

Only interesting datapoint I see in Page1-votes, is the cross vote between PEG and ABR. Ho-hum.

[pickemgenius]

Only interesting datapoint I see in Page1-votes, is the cross vote between PEG and ABR. Ho-hum.

yeah. we love each other. it shows huh?

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's just a little crush
Not like I faint every time we touch
It's just some little thing (crush)
Not like everything I do depends on you

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj5S1RCUDvM

[Albert B. Rampage]

yeah. we love each other. it shows huh?

...so don't get crazy over you and me

[Surye]

Very sweet. ;P

Anyways, back to the game,

Unvote

. Since the only thing I've noticed so far seems to just be meta-history, I'm back to watching and prodding. Though is it pretty interesting PEG and ABR also both have 3 votes each... Why are they so wagonable?

[Ectomancer]

You and Elias really crawled out the woodwork this time, eh ?

uh...I usually am playing in 3-4 games at one time. I got NKed N1 in 3 games in a row recently.

vote: ABR

Bandwagon to Victory!

Were you town in all 3 games?

yes, though I dont see how thats relevant.

What is the longest stretch you've gone without getting a scum role? (the longest townie streak)

[Adel]

i don't see how that could be relevant. See Gambler's Fallacy.

[CoolBot]

Though is it pretty interesting PEG and ABR also both have 3 votes each... Why are they so wagonable?

What's wrong with a good wagon to start out the game?

[Ectomancer]

i don't see how that could be relevant. See Gambler's Fallacy.

I know how to flip a penny a hundred times Adel.

What I'm getting at is whether Elias took an opportunity with ABR's comments about Elias crawling out of the woodwork. Its a perfectly acceptable response on the face of it, and may be completely innocent, but I cant help at wonder at the perception generated by it.
He says he was NK'd N1 3 games in a row. Usually (though not always), if you are NK'd it is going to be by scum. It meant that in 3 games, scum found him to be the biggest threat for one reason or another. Extrapolate on that and it means that Elias is probably a good player to keep around for scum hunting.
So following your Gambler's Fallacy, yes, he has proven to be town and apparently threatening to scum for 3 recent games, but that doesn't mean that he is town again in this game. I dont believe I've ever played with Elias, so I wonder (again) whether he is as subtle a player to casually influence town's desire to keep him around.

Why do you think you got NK'd those 3 games Elias, with 20/20 hindsight? Were your speculations close to the mark and they were forced to kill you, or was it because the general perception of you was that you were town? Or was it sheer dumb luck?

[Surye]

Though is it pretty interesting PEG and ABR also both have 3 votes each... Why are they so wagonable?

What's wrong with a good wagon to start out the game?

Nothing at all, I didn't question the existence of the wagon, simply the choice of targets. Trying to use the wagon to stimulate a little activity and information, which is what a wagon is good for, no?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Ecto my man, you're overthinking. Elias gets off'ed because he's the most annoying player in the game.

[farside22]

i don't see how that could be relevant. See Gambler's Fallacy.

I know how to flip a penny a hundred times Adel.

What I'm getting at is whether Elias took an opportunity with ABR's comments about Elias crawling out of the woodwork. Its a perfectly acceptable response on the face of it, and may be completely innocent, but I cant help at wonder at the perception generated by it.
He says he was NK'd N1 3 games in a row. Usually (though not always), if you are NK'd it is going to be by scum. It meant that in 3 games, scum found him to be the biggest threat for one reason or another. Extrapolate on that and it means that Elias is probably a good player to keep around for scum hunting.
So following your Gambler's Fallacy, yes, he has proven to be town and apparently threatening to scum for 3 recent games, but that doesn't mean that he is town again in this game. I dont believe I've ever played with Elias, so I wonder (again) whether he is as subtle a player to casually influence town's desire to keep him around.

Why do you think you got NK'd those 3 games Elias, with 20/20 hindsight? Were your speculations close to the mark and they were forced to kill you, or was it because the general perception of you was that you were town? Or was it sheer dumb luck?

A bit of a strength don't you think? You can't really base NK1 in other games. I was in a game with Elias where he is still alive and I can't say much more since it's on going, but you can't buy pass him with the thought he is good.
@Surye: With this group that seem to know each other the BW are not unexpected.

[shaft.ed]

Elias are those games ongoing?

vote: Elias

for maybe talking about ongoing games

[Surye]

Elias are those games ongoing?

vote: Elias

for maybe talking about ongoing games

And here I thought votes were for scum, not rule breakers.

[Adel]

Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?

Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.

[Rosso Carne]

Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?

Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.

nah, nothing really to vote on IMHO.

[Adel]

Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?

Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.

nah, nothing really to vote on IMHO.

Ecto has a Depeshe Mode quote in his sig... IRL that is enough for me to put machine oil in his coffee.

[Surye]

Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?

Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.

nah, nothing really to vote on IMHO.

Ecto has a Depeshe Mode quote in his sig... IRL that is enough for me to put machine oil in his coffee.

I thought you're done with the random voting stage? This sounds like you're just egging it on.

[shaft.ed]

Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?

Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.

nah, nothing really to vote on IMHO.

Ecto has a Depeshe Mode quote in his sig... IRL that is enough for me to put machine oil in his coffee.

But how do you know it is Depesche Mode unless you're a closet listener. Case closed!

[Ectomancer]

Mod: camisade has not posted in this thread yet. Prod?

Rosso Carne has not voted yet... I'd like to get out of the random stage, thank you very much nicely.

nah, nothing really to vote on IMHO.

Ecto has a Depeshe Mode quote in his sig... IRL that is enough for me to put machine oil in his coffee.

But how do you know it is Depesche Mode unless you're a closet listener. Case closed!

pwned