Mini 2097 - Make Me Regret This Game Over


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Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:29 am

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I can't be the only one who assumed D4 was gonna be massclaim after we flipped a second scum
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Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:29 am

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I mean my first thought when he flipped but no one else did was “huh, guess mastina or chem doc’d me then”
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Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:29 am

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I thought D4 was massclaim
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Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:31 am

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Right, yeah, so him being locked in to claiming the role he claimed to you would seriously disadvantage him when all the options I can conceive of would then point to scum!Eth0s
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Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:33 am

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Wait didn't you say he claimed disloyal as well lmao
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Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:34 am

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Fuck me I think that's a literally impossible situation for him to get out of without killing you so he can claim something else
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Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:35 am

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In post 2452, Menalque wrote:I thought D4 was massclaim
So did I. Ended up not being needed, butstill.
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Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:45 am

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Where's a scumbutt when you need one I wanna know why they killed deb
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Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:45 am

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In post 2454, jjh927 wrote:Wait didn't you say he claimed disloyal as well lmao
P sure yeah
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Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:47 am

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eth0s wrote:I'm a town disloyal jailkeeper. I submitted 3 items. Keys, badge, and a wanted poster. It was implied in my role PM that my jailkeeping abilities might block all actions against my target, not just kills.
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Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:02 am

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You could probably work on detecting fakeclaims better, considering.

Like, I'd put that firmly outside of the strength ceiling for reasonable roles to exist; it's a roleblocker, but with no risk of blocking a town PR, and also it can hard guilty scum even when it's not actually blocking them from killing.

Compare with your own role PM for context regarding the expected power level of the setup. You also have a roleblocker but it's waaay weaker. Setup spec could well have indicated that if Eth0s did have a roleblocking ability of some sort then he would be scum, especially after TL claimed.


There are other cues to this being a lie that are just clumsy, such as the same thing I noticed with TL's claim. If you look at your role PM, where it gives you the name of your role, it doesn't say "Town X". It just says "X." So that's not someone taking the name of their role off of their role PM.
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Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:04 am

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Great game, all.

Thanks for subbing in for me, suji. I loved the toast/vig crumbs you left :D. And nice shot on eth0s at the end.

@mena, you were right about my meta being off. My schedule got too busy and I had to step back from mafia until things balanced out again.

@Gamma, I loved the theme btw!
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Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:57 am

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In post 2429, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2427, Menalque wrote:
In post 2424, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2362, jjh927 wrote:Also who successfully protected against the final scumkill?
That actually didn't happen but schadd only posted the relevant kill so lol
Yeah schadd was a help but I need to leave better instructions for my backup mod next time
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Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 9:58 am

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In post 2436, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2434, jjh927 wrote:
In post 2429, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2427, Menalque wrote:
In post 2424, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2362, jjh927 wrote:Also who successfully protected against the final scumkill?
That actually didn't happen but schadd only posted the relevant kill so lol
Yeah schadd was a help but I need to leave better instructions for my backup mod next time
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Does that mean Eth0s roleblocked Chemist?
Yes
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Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:04 am

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I scum read Elements correctly. It was pretty obvious I was the Motivator and I was starting to suspect Menalque and Elbirn. Menalque asking me who did I think motivated TL looked like he was fishing for the Motivator which made me wary and Elbirn asking who would want to motivate TL I thought he was also scum who wanted to throw shade on the Motivator.
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Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:26 am

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nope, I'm just that bad with roles that I genuinely didn't know. I was wondering if it was you vaguely by last night (that's partly why I role blocked you for tomorrow) but I really wasn't sure
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Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:36 am

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In post 2431, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2387, Menalque wrote:I’m kinda disappointed not to have seen the power ups tbh, especially if they came with new flavour
Yeah everything had some good flavor ideas behind it
That was the main point of this game, testing my skill at role writing. That was the meaning of "make me regret" but Korina submitting what he did shooked me
Hey, you said to make you regret it. I did just that by submitting gay pride flag. However, I was debating on submitting a bunch of other random things that'd make you really regret this.

Like, tide pods, a concrete brick, picture of my gay roommate and his boyfriend or my personal favorite literal garbage.
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Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:37 am

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Btw Menalque and Adorable would have cancelled each other if they targeted the same person, never noted this but they have inverted effects (they are essentially - or +1 action the next night)
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Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:31 am

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if we could do this over again I would have submitted vanilla ice cream, vanilla yogurt, and vanilla extract
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Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:40 pm

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In post 2401, jjh927 wrote:Did anyone who scumread me at any point in this game actually meta me at all?
In post 2464, Adorable wrote:I scum read Elements correctly. It was pretty obvious I was the Motivator and I was starting to suspect Menalque and Elbirn. Menalque asking me who did I think motivated TL looked like he was fishing for the Motivator which made me wary and Elbirn asking who would want to motivate TL I thought he was also scum who wanted to throw shade on the Motivator.
No I honestly thought no town player could have motivated TL because no one in this game townread him. I'm curious why you chose TL as your motivate target?
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Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:42 pm

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I submitted a d20, a gachapon capsule, and a neutron star
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Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:37 pm

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I submitted:

1. Scuba suit;
2. A toaster that only toasts one side of your bread; and
3. The backspace key on a keyboard.
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Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:55 pm

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In post 2469, Elbirn wrote:
In post 2401, jjh927 wrote:Did anyone who scumread me at any point in this game actually meta me at all?
In post 2464, Adorable wrote:I scum read Elements correctly. It was pretty obvious I was the Motivator and I was starting to suspect Menalque and Elbirn. Menalque asking me who did I think motivated TL looked like he was fishing for the Motivator which made me wary and Elbirn asking who would want to motivate TL I thought he was also scum who wanted to throw shade on the Motivator.
No I honestly thought no town player could have motivated TL because no one in this game townread him. I'm curious why you chose TL as your motivate target?
This was my second game playing with TL. My first game I played with him he was town who was flip flopping alot and TL was also flip flopping alot on d1 in this game and I thought he was a confused townie on d1. TL, eth0s, and Elements are the only players I have previously played with and funnily, they all turned out to be scum in this game.
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Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:35 pm

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In post 2361, Chemist1422 wrote:I roleblocked suji last night tho? so um

oops
And I roleblocked you >.>
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Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:43 pm

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In post 2412, jjh927 wrote:I need to know why they killed my dude deb
Honestly the main reason I wanted to is that anyone comfortable enough to play a game mode like this (more complicated than what I normally play) on a shitposting alt scares me. You reaffirmed my thoughts in D1 twilight I believe when you said he was being quite helpful in your pt or something along those lines. Maybe the timeline doesnt add up bc it has been awhile but I thought you and son would be the two least likely to be lynched and most likely to catch us
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