mini #585 - A Tempest Has Formed (Over), Thanks Patrick!!

[Skruffs]

I am probably going to vote Porochaz.

[Porochaz]

If the mafia can kill the jailkeeper whilst they are jailed then why is skruffs not dead?

[Cream147]

If the mafia can kill the jailkeeper whilst they are jailed then why is skruffs not dead?

What on earth makes you think that the mafia have such powers?

[Skruffs]

Okay.
If the mafia can kill the jailkeeper while jailed, then I should be dead.
I jalkept you.
Since you infer that you think I should be dead, that means the person I jailkept should be mafia.

Which means your misunderstanding of my endgame scenario led to you outing of yourself as mafia.


Right?

[Porochaz]

No. You've jailkept both of us now. So it stands to reason that you should of been dead either last night or two nights ago. I have never been in an endgame scenario with a JK before so I assumed that the mafia could kill the JK if he was jailed. Maybe I should of looked up the wiki before now...

[Skruffs]

What makes you sure that I was targetted one of those nights though? I JK'd Cream147 the first night - which means I protected him from you or protected myself from him. And I jailkept you last night, which means I kept you from killing or that cream147 didn't kill last night.

I am going to vote you after my SHOWA/

[Porochaz]

I dont understand. Im glad Im handing scum a win through my inability to understand the mechanics of the jailkeeper and by the way Im not sure that both nights you were targetted that was my point in the first place.

[Skruffs]

If I had been targetted both nights, I'd be dead. One night, the mafia no-killed. I am trying to figure out which night.

[Porochaz]

Cream, I notice your being quite quiet at the moment, why did your opinion of xtoxm suddenly change a while back?

[Patrick]

Don't force me to deadline this one guys.

[Porochaz]

Im waiting for Cream to answer or Skruffs to vote, I dont really have much to do at the moment unless you still want me to go through Creams posts and pick away at the bones? (Im assuming Skruffs wil be in here before Cream)

[Skruffs]

Yes, I am here... have been posting to another LYLO game I am in, and didni't realize you had posted to Cream147 in this one.

Let's look at the voting history of trhe known scum (Alvinz and Matt_S) in regards to the both of you:

For example, ALvinz basically ignored evilgorillaz, voting him once when evilgorillas said that "Scum can determine who we think is town" And thinking that the "We" meant scum. That might have been a slip on his part.

Cream147 and Alvinz were pretty much slapping each other around all day.

So Alvinz treated both players very differently - EG he ignored and Cram147 he attacked and talked with.

Compare that with how he acts towards Matt_S - he completely ignored Matt_S, even to the point of when I was attacking Matt_S, he said he was going to let it play itself out.

That means that according to the way Alvinz acted towards the two possible scum adn the one confirmed scum, Porochaz is the most likely to be scum. Now I will look at Matt_S's interactions between the two, and Alvinz.

[Cream147]

Cream, I notice your being quite quiet at the moment, why did your opinion of xtoxm suddenly change a while back?

Hmm, I believe it was to do in a sudden increase in xtoxm's reasoning, along with my sudden realisation that Alabaska probably was SK. I believe I did mention how I realised I was too tunnel visioned on xtoxm...

Sorry I didn't answer quicker, I've been on unforseen VLA

[Skruffs]

Matt_S replaced into the game, and was very mild to both Alvinz and EG and Cream147. He pointed out EG's "Alvinz isn't scummy, he's likely town or a power role" quote", bu didn't follow up on it. He bantered with Alvinz a goood bit, as well as with Cream147, in regards to Cream147's focus solely on Alvinz.

Then there is this bit:

I have a concern about you Matt. My concern is that you are trying to forge some link between you and I. Maybe you are trying to make me look like your scumbuddy? First you defend me, then you question me and ask me lots of questions. This is all common scum behaviour towards their scumbuddy. Don't think I don't notice.

K, whatever. I looked at your attack on alvinz in a new way.

shortly after this, Matt_S switched his attention to Me and Coheed.
When I voted Cream147, he asked me why I was voting Cream instead of MM.
After Elias was lynched he basically ignores both Cream147 and Porochaz until yesterday and the day before, but even then, he was more pushing cream147 than porochaz, even while sayign porochaz was mostly useless.

I think that his initial push on Cream147 as Alvinz's scumbuddy (even before Alvinz was lynched) was perhaps designed to *look* like distancing, I could be wrong.

Regardless, there is no reason to keep this going.

I hope I'm right! If I'm not, good game Cream147. The jailkeeping last night is going to finalize my suspicions of Porochaz.

Vote: Porochaz

[Cream147]

Phew...well done Skruffs. Allow me to reassure you in twilight, where I have no need to lie. You've made the right decision. If you're scum by the way, I hate you

[iamausername]

OMG FINALLY

[Xtoxm]

OMG FINALLY

QFT

WHY did that take so fucking long???

[Skruffs]

>.>
<.<
sorry
I just wanted to force porochaz to respond first.. I know he's a tricky devil.

[populartajo]

Cream is a good person. He wouldnt lie.
WE WIN.
Cant believe how wrong I was in this game.
Good game, guys.

[Porochaz]

Sorry for the long absense I was genuinely homeless and even when things settled I was LA, in the end I decided the best course of action was to go with the "Im not going to make a case I dont believe in" way to go, in the hope that skruffs would consider me more townie for that than making up a case that would of been onbvious I didnt believe. However I know Skruffs and knew it was likely to fail. Good Game all.

[Skruffs]

I think the best option would have been to say that I was a mafia roleblocker and that I wasn't killing because I couldn't kill myself.. that would be my guess

[Patrick]

Final Votecount

Porochaz (2) -- Cream147, Skruffs
Cream147 (1) -- Porochaz

Not voting: Nobody
3 alive, 2 to lynch.

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Porochaz - Mafia - lynched day 5

Town wins! I'll wrap up the postgame later this evening.

[Patrick]

Role PMs

You are the Mafia Godfather. Your subordinates are Hypatia and Evilgorrilaz. You are immune to investigation. Together, you must deceive the town during the day and kill a town member during each night in order to collect more food supplies for yourselves. You win when all other non-mafia players are dead, or this is inevitable.

You are Mafia, Your partner is Hypatia. Your Godfather is alvinz95. Together, you must deceive the town during the day and kill a town member during each night in order to collect more food supplies for yourselves. You win when all other non-mafia players are dead, or this is inevitable.

You are the Jailkeeper. Each night you may place someone in jail to keep them from doing any actions that night. They are also protected from any attacks that may have taken place. You win when all anti-town roles are eliminated.

You are the Cop. You investigate a troublesome villager each night, and discover if they are innocent or guilty. Your job is of the utmost important now that this tempest is keeping everyone from getting food, and some people will be getting greedy. You win when all anti-town roles are eliminated.

You are a Lover with iamausername. You have been secretly in love in this village for many years now, hiding it from everyone. You can't imagine life without your lover, and would suicide within a day if they were to die. You secretly converse each night under the village bridge. You win when all anti-town roles are eliminated.

You are the Serial Killer. You have a crazy lust for food, and this Tempest has caused you to become homocidal in order to make sure you have it. You are very adept at protecting yourself and your food, and anyone who tries to kill you during the night will instead be killed themselves. You win when All other players in the town are dead, or this is inevitable.

You are a Townie. You want to help your town stay alive during this tempest, and have decided with the rest of the town that lynching a villager each day will help keep food supplies high and get rid of anyone being too greedy. You win when all anti-town roles are eliminated.

[Patrick]

Nightactions

Night 1
Everyone targets Mellowed Man

Night 2
Mafia kills CoheedCambria
SK kills iamausername
Jailkeeper no target

Night 3
Mafia doesn't kill
SK kills Xtoxm
populartajo kills himself
Jailkeeper targets Cream147

Night 4
Mafia attempts to kill Skruffs
Jailkeeper targets Porochaz

[Patrick]

I too was surprised by how long the endgame took, as I couldn't really think of a plausible scenario where Porochaz was town. Skruffs is very open minded.