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[CheekyTeeky]

Everyone has agreed to a fast night.

[CheekyTeeky]

Night 3

Bingle has died Night 3.
He was a

Town SuperSaint

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[CheekyTeeky]

Day 4 Start

With 3 votes in play, it takes 2 to lynch.

Not Voting

(3): Fishy Logic, PenguinPower, Hectic

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-02-17 19:20:49).

Mod notes:

Hectic is V/LA.

[Hectic]

Oof, this is gonna be painful. Why you do this to me, clidd.

[Hectic]

Its weird if clidd is scum because of how the optics play out when we flip town. It assures his loss either alignment he is, so he is town with a bad read. If we lynch you by that evidence and you flip town then he was running a gambit and it almost paid off, but we caught him in the end so yay!

I really don't get this though. From what I saw, clidd was pushing a read with way too much confidence to survive till the enxt day. And it doesn't guarantee his lynch tomorrow, town can be wrong about reads, and then there's the WIFOM involved of "oh, why would clidd do this as scum, it makes no sense".

Also, ftr, I wasn't swayed by his case into thinking you were scum, I was slightly swayed into think he was town based on the effort/genuineness from that case.

Appreciate an answer to this, Figic.

[Hectic]

Oh, so Creature died instead of a Bomb/Supersaint because Penpow was shooting Farren and scum!Figic would need to protect Farren there? Oh, right, because Penpow was shooting Figic night 1. Why would Figic heal themselves over Drew that night though?

[Hectic]

Oof - I was wrong on Farren.

VOTE: Farren

Penpow, remind me of where the confidence in this post came from. Was it the Farren claiming bomb thing?

[Hectic]

Ftr, I'm at 80% Figic, 20% Penpow.

[Fishy Logic]

Hi, we are here.

Dat and I are on discord together, how can we help?

[Fishy Logic]

Appreciate an answer to this, Figic.

Its a moot point. He was town, which we called by his play, and you guys lynched. Now we are in the position where we have to figure out which of you is scum.

Youve stayed my hand on you for the time being by not coming out shooting at us when you know PP wants our head too.

-F

[Fishy Logic]

I would ask that no one throws down a vote until we can all talk.

[PenguinPower]

Youve stayed my hand on you for the time being by not coming out shooting at us when you know PP wants our head too.

I'm going to be re-evaluating and not voting just because that's what Bingle and I agreed on.

[Fishy Logic]

Youve stayed my hand on you for the time being by not coming out shooting at us when you know PP wants our head too.

I'm going to be re-evaluating and not voting just because that's what Bingle and I agreed on.

Cool, wanna talk about anything?

-Fishy

[PenguinPower]

Oof - I was wrong on Farren.

VOTE: Farren

Penpow, remind me of where the confidence in this post came from. Was it the Farren claiming bomb thing?

We conversed about it

Spoiler:

Scum can't win with a Bomb alive so if you were a Town Bomb you should have been shot.

a.) They don't know how many bombs
b.) um...you aren't alive if you're lynched

Scum can't win with a Bomb alive so if you were a Town Bomb you should have been shot.

Can't they foresee he's gonna be lynched, and if he isn't, he can just be roleblocked and shot the next night instead?

I mean - pushing for the lynch is good but not definitive and there could be upwards of 3 Bombs. Bombs can't be roleblocked, and the scum performing the nk has to be doc'd to be protected so it requires 2 scum alive. I don't know why they'd delay it.

Summed up in the first sentence of 735.

[PenguinPower]

Youve stayed my hand on you for the time being by not coming out shooting at us when you know PP wants our head too.

I'm going to be re-evaluating and not voting just because that's what Bingle and I agreed on.

Cool, wanna talk about anything?

-Fishy

What was this about:

I don't see me changing my mind here, but we can wait for clidd to come back...

This is a shit read. I mean, its not even a fucking read. You dont say shit all fucking game and here is the time for you to say some shit and this is what you choose to say.

Lynch us if you fuckers want, but hect is the scum you are looking for, dumbasses.

clidd was the only one voting you and Jingle and I both said we wanted clidd.

[Fishy Logic]

Yeah, i might have fucked that up. I thought you guys were calling for our lynch.

Hold on and ill explain why i thought that.

[Fishy Logic]

Jingle, have you missed the posts where I outline why I think hect is scum and not clidd?

Nope. They were interesting, I read them, and they didn’t change my mind. Granted, hectics absence and lack of response is concerning, but I don’t have a reason to believe it’s AI atm.

I don't see me changing my mind here, but we can wait for clidd to come back...

Alright.

Clidd then fish is where you’re at too?

Yep.

I took the bolded to be at clidd saying he wanted to lynch us too, so that it would be clidd, jingle and pp voting us.

[Fishy Logic]

I thought your 1103 was you cosigning with jingle and clidd on us.

[PenguinPower]

That's fair and makes sense. I'll be honest, my first thought was that it was a reaction to go against what I said in 834 about me scum reading you at the end of D1 because you were congenial toward me.

[Fishy Logic]

to be honest, i wasnt around for much of day 1, that was dat, and ive learned that ill read you later on in the game, so poking you wasnt going to do me any good that early.

[Fishy Logic]

I barely knew you targeted us until dat reminded me you shot at us and were blank

[Hectic]

Appreciate an answer to this, Figic.

Its a moot point. He was town, which we called by his play, and you guys lynched. Now we are in the position where we have to figure out which of you is scum.

Youve stayed my hand on you for the time being by not coming out shooting at us when you know PP wants our head too.

-F

I mean, I'm just surprised you saw it as town with how confident he was on scum!you. And the selfvoting because he "only" had you at 98% scum rather than 100%, and you townread him for that? That's what I'm struggling to see why.

Also, why is me being not completely certain on you being scum a good thing? Can't I just be leaving my options open here?

[PenguinPower]

Hectic makes sense because he's letting clidd do whatever because he knows that clidd is going to end up slipping the noose around his own neck when we flip town, which hect knows we will. When that happens hect pushes clidd tomorrow for the winning mislynch and town goes down in flames.

Why is Hectic scum aside from letting clidd do whatever he wants? (It's not lost on me the irony in that clidd literally did end up slipping the noose around his own neck)

[Fishy Logic]

I was certain about him flipping town because his strat was suicide as scum. And I was right.

[PenguinPower]

I've gotta take my kid to a school thing. I'll be back later tonight.