Ok so the way I feel about GL's post opening up both me and Karnage as the lynch is that GL is scum, presenting 2 cases to the rest of the game and hoping of those cases is gonna stick and induce a vote, which is enough to win him the game
There's no real conclusion being drawn from his own cases, leaving it open to whatever we wanna make of it. Know what I mean? It's like GL tried to find scummy stuff in our ISO, but not really scumhunting.
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In post 598, GuiltyLion wrote:alright I'm caught up, but I'm about to do a bunch more
my quick preliminary thoughts so far are:
1) I still generally think George is scum and I'm not sure why we're looking at Obv/Icon first over George
2) I messaged Datisi a few days ago asking whether the Nurse would flip as Doc if they died N1 and their answer was Nurse always flips as Nurse. so somebody is 100% lying about being a doctor and I'd really like them to claim explicitly in case that gives us useful night action info or in case we're barking up the wrong tree
In post 610, GuiltyLion wrote:okay so actually as I'm sitting down and thinking about this more my reads are kinda all in flux
questions I'm thinking about - if George isn't scum, then scum might be just waiting for me to force the issue and then they can tag along later when it's deadline and they won't fall under scrutiny. I've tossed out George's name as a suspect several times now and nobody is biting at that, which makes me think George might be town and designated lynchbait
I'm also not sure I buy that emps townreads me to this degree? like I don't think I've been super especially over the top townie so far this game
I definitely don't think Obv/Karnage are a team. and I don't really think Ico is scum.
so that leaves me with:
emps/Obv could be a team
George/Obv or George/Karnage could be teams I guess
I'm trying to figure out who's working together and what scum agenda every player's votes and pushes could be serving right now
you're kinda my guess at Nurse so I didn't think you were scum but associatives between Obv don't really make him scum with a lot of people I think. I'm starting to think emps is a decent bet for a deep wolf
My GL town read was built on the fact I thought HE was actually the nurse
what made you think I was the nurse?
regardless, I am not sure Karnage does/thinks to say this as scum
I'm operating under a Chemist/Emps team prediction right now.
and Obv being the Nurse makes sense why everyone was assuming I was a vig
In post 721, GuiltyLion wrote:I targeted emps, so I believe I'm definitely the Quack Doctor
However, all of this does point to a GL who scumread chem, and thought emps was a good chance for being partner. GL already thought he could be the quack doc, so he targeted his scumread emps, who died. It makes sense for town!GL to do that. I don't think there's a huge chance scum actually targeted emps.
MUCH more likely that scum targeted obvscum. So I probably protected the nurse.
rn i'm more comfortable with voting Karnage over GL
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Like, my most basic down to earth read right now is
Scum probs don't target emps, GL most likely vig who shot emps (who he previously scumread together with chem who flipped scum). It's a very believable trajectory, making Karnage scum by default. Scum!Karnage also doesn't have to lie right now about having targeted obvscum
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if we (mis)lynch Karnage, 2v1 going into night, we both target GL and see what happens. Chance of you being the vig kills him, if not that I have a decent chance of blocking him, come tomorrow 2v1 again and we lynch GL?
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This entire trajectory of non imh is pretty damning. Votes George very early on the wagon, doesn't sort anything in it, and when the heat picks up and the lynch might seriously happen he unvotes without any serious events that might have changed his mind on his 'scumread'.
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I still think Karnage's case on me was like extremely shitty even if his tone every now and then seems vaguely townie
you were basically MIA for most of the game and then came in with a nice bus
GL wanted george all of day 1 which would be +risky if he got him, although he didn't sell george suuuuper hard. still risk of getting eaten by vig is like 1/6 so idk
it's literally a coinflip that I win the game or lose the game at that point, but I will target GL anyway I guess.
It would take a lot of convincing on Karnage's behalf to talk me out of voting him today however.
GL's trajectory is very believable, Obvscum is the IC, I know i'm town.
And in the world where this is wrong, and GL is scum, there is still a chance to win by targeting GL at night.
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In post 772, ObviousScum wrote:do I no action again or do I target GL if karnage flips town?
:thinking
we both target him
you could be a vig, and that wins the game if you hit GL
I target him as well, if there's a no kill we have a guilty, and if i'm the weak doc I will die lol but maybe you have won by then
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