“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot
Porkens is V/LA until Saturday, the 1st of August.
“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot
@Mod: Can you confirm that Porkens' plan would work? If we decide to no cancel today and scum did no kill yesterday, then would scum be forced to kill tomorrow night? What would happen if they still decided not to?
If this is the case, I'm willing to just do it in order to alleviate doubt under the condition that I am the protection and no one else.
@Mod: Can you confirm that Porkens' plan would work? If we decide to no cancel today and scum did no kill yesterday, then would scum be forced to kill tomorrow night? What would happen if they still decided not to?
If this is the case, I'm willing to just do it in order to alleviate doubt under the condition that I am the protection and no one else.
In theory yes, if Porkens was the doc then his plan would work
Also outing the doc save wouldn't work, his plan hinges on it being a 50/50 pot luck save
He wants to try to prove himself using game mechanics, but what'll actually happen is we'll get to tomorrow, someone will die and he'll use the argument of: "What'd be the point in slowrolling the game if I'm not the doc, wouldn't it just be an annoying thing to do"
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I am the one thing in life I can control. I am inimitable, I am an original
Tbh I'm kinda at the point of being done with this game, it's gone on so long and it's not been fun in many parts and Porkens slowrolling is just dragging this out to being more painful
Look at the night time actions, why would I kill Porkens? why would I send PK to do the killing for me when lets be real, I've been the towniest player in nearly everyones eyes and Ali would never want to protect me because I scum-read them so hard.
Like I would've 100% killed Ali a long time ago because I know how dangerous a JK is, I bet Porkens tried to kill Ali on that night and then reverted back to their soft when it didn't work out and then tried to send PK after Ali had blocked Porkens
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I am the one thing in life I can control. I am inimitable, I am an original
@Mod: Can you confirm that Porkens' plan would work? If we decide to no cancel today and scum did no kill yesterday, then would scum be forced to kill tomorrow night? What would happen if they still decided not to?
If this is the case, I'm willing to just do it in order to alleviate doubt under the condition that I am the protection and no one else.
I won't weigh in on anyone's specific "plans." I can confirm that if both factions consecutively opt out of their factional cancel/kills, the game will be designated "deadlocked" which will disallow a third consecutive phase of doing so.
In post 2249, Blair wrote:So if town no-canceled first, then scum no-killed, the next day phase would not end until a cancel was achieved.
If scum no-killed first, then town no-canceled, then scum would be required to submit a kill the next night.
“There is nothing so dangerous for anyone who has something to hide as conversation! A human being [...] cannot resist the opportunity to reveal himself and express his personality which conversation gives him. Every time he will give himself away.” -Hercule Poirot
In post 2608, Hiraki wrote:Yeah, I was being a little greedy with my question
I don't think this ends with anything other than a dead Porkens but part of me wants to just go down the road and see what happens
It's frustrating on my end cos like I know that it's a waste of time and I can't be bothered with it but I know I can't argue against it cos only a scum slot would try to fight against it haha
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I am the one thing in life I can control. I am inimitable, I am an original
Like for me there's no difference in what happens, he'll probably perk up a little bit in the next day phase and I'll have to fight that but I think his progression today says everything:
Try to find another person who could be scum to bring heat away and play on my paranoia in Peta, when that failed because Peta is 100% clear then he moved to trying this fake clear, hoping that he can get 1 more day phase out of this game and then he'll use it as part of his argument tomorrow, that failed because I had already told everyone the exact arguments that he could use tomorrow after he killed someone. And then he finally turned to me to try and find some way of calling me scummy.
Like if I was scum he could've turned straight to me and found flaws in my game but he knows I'm too townie and there's nothing he could do to convince anyone otherwise. Whilst yeah I've had bad reads, I have been the most town-read player all game. I may be bad at the game but there's no denying that I've been actively trying to scum hunt all game.
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I am the one thing in life I can control. I am inimitable, I am an original
In post 2605, petapan wrote:oh i get what porkens is trying to say now but if anything it makes my opinion stronger
How does it make your opinion stronger?
i don't think the lean into attempting to mech clear himself is a believable thought process and comes across more as wanting to cut off discussion i guess
i will probably hammer in a few, just want to re-check things to be sure. notable that n_m didn't crossvote, and i'm not sure if porkens is town why he doesn't chance the win
In post 108, CultOfAthena wrote:Kidneystone's suspicion over people not elaborating on their votes seems genuine on first blush. It's interesting that he doesn't mention me despite the fact that I seemingly indicated I also had a real reason to scumread Clark.
In post 2605, petapan wrote:oh i get what porkens is trying to say now but if anything it makes my opinion stronger
How does it make your opinion stronger?
i don't think the lean into attempting to mech clear himself is a believable thought process and comes across more as wanting to cut off discussion i guess
i will probably hammer in a few, just want to re-check things to be sure. notable that n_m didn't crossvote, and i'm not sure if porkens is town why he doesn't chance the win
Yeah that's a good point, although also idk if N_M was too invested anyway so eh idk
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I am the one thing in life I can control. I am inimitable, I am an original
In post 108, CultOfAthena wrote:Kidneystone's suspicion over people not elaborating on their votes seems genuine on first blush. It's interesting that he doesn't mention me despite the fact that I seemingly indicated I also had a real reason to scumread Clark.
heh
Oh, that's a good point, I didn't think to check over the pre-replacements
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I am the one thing in life I can control. I am inimitable, I am an original
ther's not a lot there. not a lot in pisskop's iso for either of you. i think hiraki already highlighted the way porkens talked about pisskop and it's not good.
anyway where i've been at most of the day is assuming you're not some crazy savant who thought to drop a fake townslip about not knowing the mechanics of how mafia kills work on this site while also defending the hell out of your deadweight partner for no good reason unless you're a secret double-reverse genius attempting the too scummy to be scum defense
also just, occam's razor. idea that porkens was miraculously saves from the nightkill because mafia happened to know he was doctor is much less likely than him just being the goon who was stopped from being the kill