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unwnd Jack of All Trades
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notscience Survivor
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unwnd Jack of All Trades
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Chara it/itsJack of All Tradesit/its
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it's not a big deal, i just want Dunn to know i'm notthatblind and it was confusingly worded to me. and i think could have been corrected given how i kept checking how my role worked/expressing pure confusion at the heals in discord.
this game has enough embarrassing quotes from Chara already."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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T3 He/himSurvivorHe/him
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Bingle Survivor
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Thanks for the game, unwnd. Despite the issues I had fun and was glad I played. I’m sorry that the game fell apart so much, I know how rough that can be when you obviously put a ton into it."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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fferyllt Titan of Trajectory
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GG all!
I enjoyed the flavor and game design so much!
Also, this is a great player list and that added so much to the game's complexity and enjoyability.
I'm a little sad that so much of the game's strategy will be locked away in discord servers for all eternity.-
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fferyllt Titan of Trajectory
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Thanks so much for all the effort you put into designing and running the game, unwnd, and thank you bork for all your input and help with this juggernaut of a game!-
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Lukewarm Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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This game was a roller coaster to spectate.
@Unwnd, I think that the flavor and design was spectacular. Best I have seen in my short time on site!!
The errors were unfortunate - but as people have flipped, I started realizing just how much you were having to keep track of. Most roles had 2 actions they could preform every night x 24 players = you had an insane number of actions to resolve every single night. And also 24 players worth of hp and sp to track. - you had a monumental amount of things to keep up with, so don't beat yourself up too much for the error :/-
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Lukewarm Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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@Catboi - Unwnd happened to show me your role pm in the spectator thread, and we talked about it a bit there. I was also confused by the elemental damage, and had to ask several questions to understand. Unwnd informed me that at one point there was an ability that interacted with "damage" and he wanted it to interact with your ability [that ability eventually got cut], but he also did not want your ability to hit hp directly. That is why he made "elemental damage" function the way that it did.
@Cabd - Arte would have gotten the result that Flea and Chara were not the same alignment - so not a hard inno+guilty on their own. Flea had enough suspicion on them that it seems likely that would have been enough for a flea elim, which would have left an inno on Chara. We talked about that in detail in the spectator thread before you joined - but by the time you got there, it was being shortened to "an inno and a guilty"-
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Lukewarm Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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Glad to see I left an impression in our singular game together Bell <3In post 5304, Bell wrote:
Yes. I think you’re lukewarm-lite.In post 5300, Dwlee99 wrote:
You think I'm a control freak or...?In post 5297, Bell wrote:I think this is about control for you and not about my alignment.
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Lukewarm Paragon of Mafia Hunters
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Quoting this again, because I think that this was my overall take away while spectating, and do not want it to get buried in my other messagesIn post 7508, Lukewarm wrote:@Unwnd, I think that the flavor and design was spectacular. Best I have seen in my short time on site!!-
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WhemeStar Survivor
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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This was a great designed game.
It was a problem about NDMath not being able to confirm my action though. The prompt should have said most people have SP, not all. It made NDMath look scummier than they were.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
GTKTitus Part 2
Titus Academy
VLA Friday nights until Sunday morning.
All hail the Scum Empress!-
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Titus She/herMoon WalkerShe/her
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+1In post 7508, Lukewarm wrote:The errors were unfortunate - but as people have flipped, I started realizing just how much you were having to keep track of. Most roles had 2 actions they could preform every night x 24 players = you had an insane number of actions to resolve every single night. And also 24 players worth of hp and sp to track. - you had a monumental amount of things to keep up with, so don't beat yourself up too much for the error :/ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
You're letting Titus win the game by herself.Good luck now I guess.You have no chance to win.~Tywin
GTKTitus Part 2
Titus Academy
VLA Friday nights until Sunday morning.
All hail the Scum Empress!-
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Chara it/itsJack of All Tradesit/its
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oh and, apologies to morph. i was completely in the wrong in that interaction re: LLD."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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Bingle Survivor
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You weren't.In post 7515, Chara wrote:oh and, apologies to morph. i was completely in the wrong in that interaction re: LLD.
LLD weaponizes her real emotions. You wanting to defend someone you saw as hurting is not something you ever have to apologize for. You can own being wrong, but don't apologize for being nice."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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fferyllt Titan of Trajectory
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Thank you. This means a lot to me. There was no intent to be toxic behind anything we posted and I felt bad (and defensive) that our posting was viewed that way.In post 7515, Chara wrote:oh and, apologies to morph. i was completely in the wrong in that interaction re: LLD.-
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Chara it/itsJack of All Tradesit/its
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thank you Jingle. i appreciate the sentiment. but i was apologizing for what i had implied/said (i don't remember which) about morph's posting at the time, i feel i overstepped.
@ffery: yeah, i didn't think so. definitely some projection on my end."Sibling," Farkran asked, starting slowly.
"The CORE is full of lasers, and Chemist1422's entire existence depends on her eye. If she looks into a laser, she will almost certainly die. Did you think about that?"
"Oh yes, my brother. I love thinking about that."-
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Sigmund Goon
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
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For the record.
I have made VERY lengthy thoughts about my rather notable disagreement with the modkill.
I did not quote anything--I literally was paraphrasing start to finish. Literally everything I was manually typing. No copy-pasting was done at all. None. Whatsoever. I was looking at the role PM in one tab, then manually switching to the other tab to type out what I thought was said in there in my own words, back and forth, over and over again. I was doing this every step of the way, start to finish, in being writing it in my own words.
Heck, I got modkilled for the chance of something which Toogeloo before me actually got. (One of the justifications for the modkill was giving me an unfair advantage where people would townread me for things that I couldn't fake. No less than two people townread Toogeloo for...things they thought he couldn't fake. And Toogeloo wasn't modkilled for HIS paraphrase, which set the precedence and mod inconsistency between how I was treated and how Toogeloo was treated.)
Something which there was actual tangible evidence that I wasn't actually going to receive, no less. Prior to my modkill there were no less than two or three players doubting my claim. People were doubting my claim, people were thinking I might be lying, so clearly I wasn't actually gaining that advantage. Whereas Toogeloo with his paraphrase actually DID gain that advantage. Yet I the player who wasn't receiving the benefit described and who paraphrased my role second, got modkilled when the player who did receive the benefit described and who paraphrased their role first, did not.
I have many many more words to say on the subject but suffice to say: it was not the correct one as I was in no way shape or form quoting. I was, genuinely, writing it in my own words. The fact that there was a 7-word string of identical words was literally coincidence. I hand-wrote out words in my own words that in 7 words matched the original role PM but literally anyone who's played mafia for long enough has in their paraphrase of writing their own role PM managed to do similar where they said the original words in their paraphrase. Especially when the original role PM already used maximum succinctness wording. The more succinct a role PM is, the harder it is to paraphrase it because instead of removing/changing/altering words, you instead need to add words.
Something I would like to point out that I still did! I was breaking up the words used, I altered the words used, I shifted the phrases around, removing some, adding some, I changed some wording, I changed the phrasing. It was start to finish a paraphrase.-
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jjh927 Survivor
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VFP Mafia Scum
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unwnd Jack of All Trades
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Dunnstral he/himGoodfellashe/him
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I took the claim in 356 as well as the text from the screenshot in post 369 (I typed out what I saw in the screenshot; it's not the full role but is the text that can be seen in the redacted screenshot). I put both into an online tool that checks for plagiarism.
Spoiler: Here are the results
I will let people draw their own conclusions with the data.
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