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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 2:57 pm

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In post 68, Ythan wrote:Groudon ex and it only mills one a turn? Mill so pricey and draw so cheap this is kind of a friendly (the game to the player) game.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:48 pm

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Have you seen Alolan muk
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:54 pm

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I had not, and I bet you're talking about this one which jumped out at me. I've definitely scanned past loads of trainer cards I could use to recur that every turn too.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:54 pm

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Well maybe not both "loads" and "every turn" but definitely either one.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:58 pm

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The thought of attacking the deck and getting walled by non-items I can't discard gives me Netrunner flashbacks.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:09 pm

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Muk would have diminishing returns each time you use it. It's nice that it's not an attack though. The way most people build decks it's average mills would be about 2.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:14 pm

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I think some other form of generalized mill would clear the accumulated gunk and maybe help with the diminishing returns if that makes sense.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:24 am

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muk shuffles the unmilled cards in rather than leaving them on top, so generalized mill will not help with the item/nonitem ratio of the attacked deck.

genearalized mill is probably better than the 4th copy of alolan muk because it's not itself a diminishing return, of course, but there's no special interaction there.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:27 am

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You might be interested in Durant.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 11:34 am

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that one seems good. a comment on durant mentioned Magmortar which can mill one per fire energy attached to magmortar
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:51 pm

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In post 82, Isis wrote:muk shuffles the unmilled cards in rather than leaving them on top
I missed that!
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 12:52 pm

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In post 83, Dwlee99 wrote:You might be interested in Durant.
I am, and it's flavorful too!
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:23 pm

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In post 84, Isis wrote:that one seems good. a comment on durant mentioned Magmortar which can mill one per fire energy attached to magmortar
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:24 pm

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More efficient than Moltres for sure.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:28 pm

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Some
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 1:45 pm

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I like the bugs eating your deck flavor.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:03 am

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Been listening to podcasts trying to learn more about the game.

Apparently decking people out happens in standard but it's mostly playing 0-1 cards that mill and just making it so your opponent can't hurt you ever
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:06 am

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It can depend how strong or serious you want your deck to be there was a time when I just wanted to kill people with Raticate because he required no energy and is hilarious
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 6:08 am

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It seems like you should buy the Durants because they are the funneeist
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:31 pm

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He made his own deck and didn't draw a single energy card just filled his bench with Pokemon for me to knock out all at once with Noivern V. I got to draw four prize cards at once! And hopefully afterward was able to convey the importance of energy or at least a way to tutor energy.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:33 pm

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In post 92, Isis wrote:It can depend how strong or serious you want your deck to be there was a time when I just wanted to kill people with Raticate because he required no energy and is hilarious
The Alolan one? Pretty strong attack, potentially, for no energy, that's fun.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:43 pm

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yeah. alolan raticate was funny i played a good 4 matches before i switched to banette and played with -1- energy instead

now what i've been spamming on mtgo attacks with -2- energy i think maybe i dont like high energy attacks haha
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:43 pm

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i meant ptcgo

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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2022 5:53 pm

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Less is more. Not to say that more can't also be more.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2022 3:10 pm

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i just got this on ptcgo, also have a few durants

you can run like 8 double colorless energy per deck in standard right now i think, but 70 hp is still a bit yikes
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