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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:32 pm

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Seems like it might be intentional with stuff like Light Togetic's Sweet Kiss.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:44 pm

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I stopped on Dark Quilava because of the tiny mill but noticed it says "all players" that's weird. I had to double check to be sure 3+ wasn't supported.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:50 pm

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Light Golduck sends some fraction of three cards per turn to the hand for each player.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:55 pm

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Light Wigglytuff's got a handy ability that can pull one a turn too, and in colorless.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:03 pm

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Lucky Stadium, I don't think I've said one of those yet.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:06 pm

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Pokemon Personality Test could have some relevance if some of these dark and light Pokemon found their way into a deck together but then again what's the point if you're trying to win the minigame.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:08 pm

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Team Rocket's Evil Deeds is one for one with a couple added perks.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:15 pm

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Wow another mill Tyranitar in the same set, and a shiny one at that. I think the expected mill only approaches one per turn but theoretically could win at any time.

I gotta stop noting effects that cause or let the opponent draw or search out cards they are far more numerous than anything else I'm tracking and I'm finally starting to see actual mill.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:25 pm

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I did have a thought as to whether one could effectively just plug every potential route to losing and wait for your opponent to mill out naturally. Loads of effects for healing and whatnot, saw at least one Pokemon that doesn't give up a prize card when ko'd anyway, and I think I noticed a move that let me shuffle trainers from discard and there's probably other ways to stave off mill indefinitely.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 2:31 am

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Make both players draw cards then spam pokemon dolls?
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:58 am

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Didn't quite see it at first but 4 dolls seems like probably 4 free turns and if I'm recycling cards from discard they could really get out of hand, could it really be that simple?
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:17 am

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Mysterious fossil works like that too I believe?

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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:20 am

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Tyranitar seems to be a go to miller.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 12:14 pm

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A Larvitar that mills and while healing itself rather than dealing damage that's fantastic.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:05 pm

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Magcargo mills, might be handy in a Moltres deck for pulling your own energy out (assuming some form of recovery) while decreasing the amount required to win.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:44 pm

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does such a weak card sell for 80 bucks wow
them old sets are just crazy
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:56 pm

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Oh no I just noticed that's quite a bit lemme see
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:57 pm

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The non-foil isn't too bad.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:05 pm

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Groudon ex and it only mills one a turn? Mill so pricey and draw so cheap this is kind of a friendly (the game to the player) game.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:36 pm

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I started to get into the TCGO two weeks ago but haven't played in a week. Figured I might as well ego this thread. I was playing mostly theme decks, though (soaring storm, specifically).

If you're looking to teach him the game, I've read that theme decks are good for beginners. It also looks like some theme decks go for a reasonable price. The Charizard deck for instance looks reasonable. If you have any questions about theme decks I might be able to give some direction just based on how many games I've played.

Theme decks are known for having terrible Pokemon:trainer:energy ratio though, so keep that in mind.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:49 pm

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Hi Dwlee!

What would you consider a good ratio?
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:26 pm

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Probably something
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12:38:10 pokemon:trainer:energy? Some decks can get away with more or less pokemon/energy depending on what they do, but I think the main theory in the meta right now is that it's better to have a trainer card that will let you select a pokemon/energy than it is to have the Pokemon/energy itself.

Especially because you can only really put one energy onto a card each turn, it's important to have access to energy accelerators (anything that can place energy onto a pokemon in addition to the 1 a turn) because you don't want to have more energy in your hand than you can use.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:27 pm

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Fascinating thank you.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:34 pm

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Yep, no problem.

One other thing I forgot to mention is that meta decks very frequently have ways to draw cards from the discard pile. That's part of why you can get away with less energy than you'd typically need in total.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:43 pm

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Rechecking, it looks like meta decks are actually averaging more around 16-20 Pokemon? So yea it definitely varies depending on what you want your deck to do.
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