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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:57 pm

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In post 822, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 819, MathBlade wrote:It’s actually not. Town just votes no elim and prays for cross kill as mafia and SK don’t win

Mafia won’t shoot town unless they want to avoid that. They have to shoot SK

why would the mafia and the SK decide to no lim and go to night and shoot each other to let town win?

they can just vote out the townie
Because mafia and SK both lose there
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:59 pm

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In post 824, MathBlade wrote:You’ve argued we can’t elim the SK else mafia wins
this is not what i said

if we elim the SK

we go into night with VT Doc BG vs 2 Groupscum

if Mafia shoot VT and Doc/BG protect each other - its 2v2 draw
if Mafia shoot Doctor and Doc/BG protect each other, its 2v3 town win
if Mafia shoot VT and Doc protects VT, its 2v3 town win
if Mafia shoot Doctor and Doctor protects VT, its 2v2 Mafia win.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 2:59 pm

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If mafia and SK both vote out the Townie

Game goes into night and both have to cross kill and no one left
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:00 pm

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In post 825, MathBlade wrote:
In post 822, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 819, MathBlade wrote:It’s actually not. Town just votes no elim and prays for cross kill as mafia and SK don’t win

Mafia won’t shoot town unless they want to avoid that. They have to shoot SK

why would the mafia and the SK decide to no lim and go to night and shoot each other to let town win?

they can just vote out the townie
Because mafia and SK both lose there
they both lose if they no lim and shoot each other

theres no incentive to let the town win
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:01 pm

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In post 828, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 825, MathBlade wrote:
In post 822, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 819, MathBlade wrote:It’s actually not. Town just votes no elim and prays for cross kill as mafia and SK don’t win

Mafia won’t shoot town unless they want to avoid that. They have to shoot SK

why would the mafia and the SK decide to no lim and go to night and shoot each other to let town win?

they can just vote out the townie
Because mafia and SK both lose there
they both lose if they no lim and shoot each other

theres no incentive to let the town win
They lose either way might as well let town win in that world

The more I argue with you the more I just want to vote you and say fuck it I am done
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:02 pm

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In post 829, MathBlade wrote:They lose either way might as well let town win in that world

The more I argue with you the more I just want to vote you and say fuck it I am done

why would mafia let town win?
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:03 pm

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i am giving you a solution where we can get a draw and a fair chance at winning

you want to go down a path where everyone loses
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:05 pm

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In post 831, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i am giving you a solution where we can get a draw and a fair chance at winning

you want to go down a path where everyone loses
You haven’t you have vetoed voting anyone
And you’ve vetoed not voting

It makes me not care and just vote you
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:05 pm

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You’re literally now arguing elim the SK when before you said not to.

Like ???
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:06 pm

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In post 826, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 824, MathBlade wrote:You’ve argued we can’t elim the SK else mafia wins
this is not what i said

if we elim the SK

we go into night with VT Doc BG vs 2 Groupscum

if Mafia shoot VT and Doc/BG protect each other - its 2v2 draw
if Mafia shoot Doctor and Doc/BG protect each other, its 2v3 town win
if Mafia shoot VT and Doc protects VT, its 2v3 town win
if Mafia shoot Doctor and Doctor protects VT, its 2v2 Mafia win.
this is my proposed plan for how we get mafia vs town draw or one side wins

your proposed plan where we lim groupscum ends up with town losing 100% of the time
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:06 pm

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In post 833, MathBlade wrote:You’re literally now arguing elim the SK when before you said not to.

Like ???
i didnt know how the roles worked before

i asked datisi and now I realized its actually fair solution for it to go to night with 3 town vs 2 mafia
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:07 pm

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like just read my plan and tell me whats wrong with it
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:07 pm

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im being good faith here with the negotiations,

this is a kingmaker endgame and I want our sides to have fair chances
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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:08 pm

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I am watching critical role

Talking with you is only pissing me off

Yet you me and DV seem to be the major posters and I don’t want to vote you for pissing me off I want to vote you if I think we win
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:08 pm

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In post 836, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like just read my plan and tell me whats wrong with it
I already did

2v2 we lose
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:08 pm

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no in 2v2 its a draw

2 mafia vs town bodyguard + town doctor is a draw
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:09 pm

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i asked Datisi about this already

mafia cant kill either of the town roles and since neither side can get majority its a draw
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:10 pm

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I will ask him. If he says otherwise prepare for turbo elim
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:10 pm

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ok thats fair
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:11 pm

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I’ve asked gonna watch critical role now

It’s been a day
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:19 pm

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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:17 pm

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In post 803, DeasVail wrote:I think Bella as town is more likely to miss details such as me being confirmed town. I think if she were SK or mafia she would pay more attention to that sort of thing
I think you are the most town of my list by play too ;) I realise that's useless x
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:42 pm

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VOTE: Bella
In post 794, MathBlade wrote:Everyone who do you think is mafia and why and who is SK and why?
Bella is SK because they're snowing Dease and they set up lammolde D1. Pooky + Mala are groupscum because they're playing like a team. AFAIK kill SK; win game because of circular protection.
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:50 pm

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Math I've thought about it and I would prefer to eliminate groupscum still
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:50 pm

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I don't really want to be too open with my reasoning though
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