Open 875 - The Kindgom of Zeal: The Queens Chosen - GAME OVER


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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:49 am

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In post 1702, Save The Dragons wrote:im not willing to lose if kawaii is a n5 doc
This is +scum imo.

From StD's perspective, he'd be a doctor. He's not an N4 doctor; were he, he'd have claimed his protection last night.

He'd be a N1/2/3/5 Doctor.
I would be another doctor.

From his perspective, he should know he didn't save anyone last night, and there's a high chance one of {LLD, RR} did.
Regardless of whether scum killed last night or no-killed, both LLD and RR claimed to have protected me; the only world where neither did is if {LLD, RR} is the scumteam, they no-killed, and are orchestrating a 1v1 between them.
Since that's quite unlikely, STD should believe at least one claim in those two.

With myself as a town doctor, with himself as a town doctor, and with at least one of LLD/RR as a town doctor, there would be only one doctor remaining.
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:52 am

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She literally just said she suspected STD
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:53 am

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Wow that was prophetic
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:54 am

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Oh wait 3 minites late.

Fuck
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:57 am

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Actually that's a really good catch I didn't notice because I was caught up arguing with LLD.

Maybe it is just StD/Kawaii damn.

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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:57 am

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Sadly, have to step away for now. I'll be back much later and yes, I am reading.
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:37 am

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or maybe i didn't count
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:45 am

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no i'm confused

there's myself and ranger

two of {gimli, rr, kawaii, lld} are doctors

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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:07 pm

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That's correct, but unless you think Gimli's scum or LLD and I are partners, from your perspective Kawaii should be impossible.
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 12:12 pm

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I don't actually know whether that's a scumslip or a not paying attention slip, but it has definitely thrown my worldview into question
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:55 pm

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I still don't get it
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:57 pm

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Never mind I'm dumb
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:59 pm

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I don't see why gimli couldn't be scum trying to kill town kawaii tho from my pov so I'm still confused if you were using logic

Which I wasn't

I literally forgot how many players could be doctors
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:04 pm

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do you think im more likely scum than kawa though? you were scumcasing him earlier today
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:36 pm

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It's mostly the whole D3 thing of asking for cops to heal for me. While I believe it wasn't a great idea because of the potential for scum to take advantage of it...

It locks scum!Gimli out of being able to kill the cop, meaning if there were an actual N3 Cop, they would have been guaranteed to get a result out, which is just all kinds of bad for scum, and I don't think he would do that.
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:51 pm

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In post 1764, Radical Rat wrote: While I believe it wasn't a great idea because of the potential for scum to take advantage of it...
Of course, in hindsight it doesn't look good because you fake claimed cop and ruined my action. And I guess I made the POE for last cop smaller. We had a very small chance of still having a living cop at that point anyway...

Is this all you're clearing me for? I suppose I could be gambitting as mafia there.
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:54 pm

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Fmpov there's at least one mafia defending Kawa here and I think that's telling. If both mafia are not Kawa then I think theyd at least jump on my push. Even std that's actively scumreading the slot doesn't wanna flip the n5 doctor.
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:54 pm

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The resistance to Kawa is fairly blatant imo
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:56 pm

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Another thing that's kinda weird is that y'all townreading me still and have you seen my scum game? It's pretty good

Which makes me feel, incidentally, that amongst my townreads there is at least a pocket attempt
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:00 am

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Lld hasn't pushed me since D1? But I remember distinctively that she felt I was first scum with ranger, and then scum regardless of ranger cause my ranger defense was pretty bad

That was never brought up again by lld

Std sussed me a bit in the beginning of D1 also I think with the lld case. He's been treating me as a townie IG ever since

And rat... Well I think rats reasoning for clearing me is a little weak but I've been resonating with his posting this gameday the hardest
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:01 am

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Incidentally I dont think rr is scum with Kawa precisely because of the Gambit, It Just wouldnt happen if your teammate is highly poed down slot
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:02 am

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Possible scum teams based off all I'm saying

(RR, std)
(Std, Kawa)
(Lld, Kawa)

Of course RR/lld is an unlikely pair after this gameday
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:09 am

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In post 1771, Gimli wrote: Possible scum teams based off all I'm saying

(RR, std)
(Std, Kawa)
(Lld, Kawa)

Of course RR/lld is an unlikely pair after this gameday
@ranger: does this solve make sense to you?
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:32 am

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In post 1765, Gimli wrote:
In post 1764, Radical Rat wrote: While I believe it wasn't a great idea because of the potential for scum to take advantage of it...
Of course, in hindsight it doesn't look good because you fake claimed cop and ruined my action. And I guess I made the POE for last cop smaller. We had a very small chance of still having a living cop at that point anyway...

Is this all you're clearing me for? I suppose I could be gambitting as mafia there.
It's not ALL, but it's the tipping point. Since then you've seemed genuinely thoughtful as well, and also you'd have no reason to defend me here as scum. Game more than likely just ends if you mislim me, so why stick your neck out?

So yeah, you're Town.
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Sat Apr 08, 2023 3:50 am

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I kind of believe StD here too, tbh. He definitely SHOULD have noticed that, but... I've not noticed more important things before, and he'd been struggling to keep up for a while...
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