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Post #983 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:59 pm
Postby Afrayed Knott »
I’ve been skim reading, so far I’m slotting Lucca and El as town. Why? Well my limited experience of Gob and El tends to lead me to believe they are both town.
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Post #984 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:01 pm
Postby Afrayed Knott »
Drew, well it’s a little yes and no with you. My first read of your recent posts it’s a feeling of is he being genuine or ingratiating yourself onto others.
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Post #992 (isolation #7) » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:26 am
Postby Afrayed Knott »
I’ve been reading Black’s ISO and I’m not sure if I feel all too confident in my concerns with Titus now. I have played a few games recently with Black and in 2 of those I was correct in Vibing her slot as scum. Here there is a niggle of a doubt that she may well have been playing the slot as scum again, but that just could be bias on my part. If I look at the balance of posts between what is purely statements on mechanics or, in a small way, could be considered perfomative, vs actual scum hunting, it’s about the same.
I stated that I had concerns on Titus’ input, and this was before I realised that she had subbed into Blacks slot. My concerns were mainly that Titus’ posts read just thread filler in my initial read. There is not much of it and little real content, but I am going to sway on the side of caution for now and also take into consideration the fact that she may well be inactive because of the time of year.
, Doc and Drew, Mizuki, Black, Cook[/area]
Not shadow: Elements, Gob, Kyouko
D&D - I have too many people I think could be scum this game (I went through these in reverse order)
Mizuki - Really seems like just going with the wagon? I do that a lot as town day 1 but could easily be disinterested scum
Black - Everyone pushing for a shadow lim then black tries to switch momentum to me, (fully aware I'm looking thought scum!black glasses atm) but I can very mush see this as a way to try and get a differnt mislim through with pre-existing support for a second one today. Then goes back to shadow after my wagon didn't get enough traction
Cook - Vote progression went from me for 90% of the game to unvote, to voting me when Black - Cook's biggest scum read - started pushing me - then hammer.
Very vote friendly with Black despite apparently scumming the slot. Makes me think it was never a real read.
The hammer itself iI don't think is AI, either scum thinking "sure I can be patient and hammer the mislim" or town wanting to get a flip through.
I think there is mileage in this. I do need to finish the read on Els ISO and any associatives, including of course Cook’s ISO. It seems a scum thing to do, put down a marker on your partner then forget to actually push the read. But lets see, I may change my mind after reading through the two ISOs, El and Cook.
I'm working though people's iso's ctrl+f ing everyone's names
I've gone through Titus (black) and Drew's so far and they both seem pretty towny but I need to sleep becasue work and I keep getting distracted so it's taking me ages to get it done
Up to this point I was hard parking you as a town slot, now hmmmmmmm ok. Maybe because it’s Christmas and you just forgot.
I'm working though people's iso's ctrl+f ing everyone's names
I've gone through Titus (black) and Drew's so far and they both seem pretty towny but I need to sleep becasue work and I keep getting distracted so it's taking me ages to get it done
Up to this point I was hard parking you as a town slot, now hmmmmmmm ok. Maybe because it’s Christmas and you just forgot.
I haven't had a chance to finish yet, I've had work and now I'm in a murder mystery dinner
In post 1019, Elements wrote:
Jackson if you're town you might want to do things asap
This Cook wagon seems like it came on quickly, not sure I like the timing of it.
Please elaborate
Eod, during a holiday where people are MIA.....now especially with a repp in.
Seems very convenient for a mis lim to be pushed though.
Thought this as well
Page 39: @972: I say that I would like to shoot Cook
Page 40: @985 and @995: only strong stances by Afrayed are on Cook!scum
Page 41: @1012, @1013 and @1016: turbo-quick wagon on Cook by Elements, Titus and Kyouko (very late on D2 after a replacement)
5/6 players have given strong consideration to shooting Cook on the last two pages on an elim that could very well happen
food for thought
I wouldn’t say either of my posts as highlighted by you are strings stances on Cook!Scum. And I see that the slot is at E1, and as I have yet to read the ISOs, as I have stated in 995, I’m not looking to hammer.
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Post #1034 (isolation #19) » Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:11 am
Postby Afrayed Knott »
In post 1030, lucca261 wrote:
what are your thoughts on Cook's wagon, @AfrayedKnott?
and can I get a readslist?
Seems opportunistic to me. Most players are away or have very little time to be involved in the game. And I find Els post about ‘if we lim now no need for a rep’ rather aggressive.
Is El playing this way deliberately, seems very much like a loose cannon type of approach.
I'm working though people's iso's ctrl+f ing everyone's names
I've gone through Titus (black) and Drew's so far and they both seem pretty towny but I need to sleep becasue work and I keep getting distracted so it's taking me ages to get it done
Up to this point I was hard parking you as a town slot, now hmmmmmmm ok. Maybe because it’s Christmas and you just forgot.
I haven't had a chance to finish yet, I've had work and now I'm in a murder mystery dinner
In post 1019, Elements wrote:
Jackson if you're town you might want to do things asap
This Cook wagon seems like it came on quickly, not sure I like the timing of it.
Please elaborate
Eod, during a holiday where people are MIA.....now especially with a repp in.
Seems very convenient for a mis lim to be pushed though.
Thought this as well
Page 39: @972: I say that I would like to shoot Cook
Page 40: @985 and @995: only strong stances by Afrayed are on Cook!scum
Page 41: @1012, @1013 and @1016: turbo-quick wagon on Cook by Elements, Titus and Kyouko (very late on D2 after a replacement)
5/6 players have given strong consideration to shooting Cook on the last two pages on an elim that could very well happen
food for thought
I wouldn’t say either of my posts as highlighted by you are strings stances on Cook!Scum. And I see that the slot is at E1, and as I have yet to read the ISOs, as I have stated in 995, I’m not looking to hammer.
yeah, they aren't the strongest reads, but Cook was the only scumread on your preliminary reads. then next time you just came back and put suspicion on Elements based on an association with Cook
let's do a checklist:
- Lucca/Gob: meta read, town (983)
- Elements: town meta read on (983), associative scum stuff w/Cook on (995)
- D&D: null (984)
- Cook: scum, empty on (985), associative scum stuff w/Elements on (995)
- Kyouko: town, empty (986)
- Titus: initial concerns on (989), big null read based on meta on (992)
i mean it looks like you trying to cookhunt instead of scumhunt
I’m trying to sort Cook, based on my read of Els ISO.
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Post #1042 (isolation #24) » Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:20 am
Postby Afrayed Knott »
In post 1040, lucca261 wrote:
i know it's all preliminary reads and stuff, won't hold that stuff too much against you, but like we're close to the end of the day, there's a real possibility that someone is limmed before you finish your ISO dive
and then BAM! D3 and quite possibly two more town dead if my theory is correct
In post 1041, Afrayed Knott wrote:
As an Aside I am town reading you Lucca based on Blacks input also.
Black and Titus are the same slot - gob and Lucca are the same slot. I'm not sure if you're saying you're taking Black's reads as input into your decision, or if you're TRing Lucca because you TRed Black and you think Lucca replaced Black, not gob
In post 1041, Afrayed Knott wrote:
As an Aside I am town reading you Lucca based on Blacks input also.
Black and Titus are the same slot - gob and Lucca are the same slot. I'm not sure if you're saying you're taking Black's reads as input into your decision, or if you're TRing Lucca because you TRed Black and you think Lucca replaced Black, not gob
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This is my read of black and thus Titus
In post 992, Afrayed Knott wrote:
I’ve been reading Black’s ISO and I’m not sure if I feel all too confident in my concerns with Titus now. I have played a few games recently with Black and in 2 of those I was correct in Vibing her slot as scum. Here there is a niggle of a doubt that she may well have been playing the slot as scum again, but that just could be bias on my part. If I look at the balance of posts between what is purely statements on mechanics or, in a small way, could be considered perfomative, vs actual scum hunting, it’s about the same.
I stated that I had concerns on Titus’ input, and this was before I realised that she had subbed into Blacks slot. My concerns were mainly that Titus’ posts read just thread filler in my initial read. There is not much of it and little real content, but I am going to sway on the side of caution for now and also take into consideration the fact that she may well be inactive because of the time of year.
Lucca I was reading as Town because of their activity when they subbed In. Feels town to me
Love your audacity, and the rather naked approach. Hope you can build a case on me rather than the newbie who I subbed and who was clearly struggling. Maybe give me a chance rather than being closed minded.
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Post #1072 (isolation #33) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 7:33 am
Postby Afrayed Knott »
Question on Cook, to those who know her style. Was she always so short as town in her responses to questions and statements in game? Her ISO reads flippant and rather curt.
Looking at Jackson I am also drawn to the statement in 1060 Re alignment, just seems performative. OK it’s not even tangible but it sticks in my mind.
Just not what I have experienced in the past, limited as it is. But not the elements I have played recently.
Do we have any completed games together?
it's still ongoing but you've been limmed and flipped VT. So you don't line up with the Elements in that game. I'm more convinced now that you are not playing in the same way.
Of course I can't go into more detail as it's ongoing
Just not what I have experienced in the past, limited as it is. But not the elements I have played recently.
Do we have any completed games together?
it's still ongoing but you've been limmed and flipped VT. So you don't line up with the Elements in that game. I'm more convinced now that you are not playing in the same way.
Of course I can't go into more detail as it's ongoing
If you actually do, why not vote cook/JV which is a much more likely lim?
I'd prefer to lim you.
Then why aren't you trying to persuade anyone given how little time is left?
Seems I don’t have too. You are playing a completely different game and you are not coming across to me as town. You should be limmed. Take a seat and enjoy the rest
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Post #1098 (isolation #45) » Wed Dec 27, 2023 6:16 pm
Postby Afrayed Knott »
Not sure, I am not happy with either of their play. Titus has done nothing since subbing in and I had some small doubts doubts about the slot, nothing major but it’s been exasperated by her lack of input. Elements is not Vibing well at all. Her play doesn’t strike me as centered or considered, almost as if she has a suicide wish and doesn’t care about the gam. She’s aggressive, and completed divorced from any thing that looks slightly like scum hunting
In post 1072, Afrayed Knott wrote:
Question on Cook, to those who know her style. Was she always so short as town in her responses to questions and statements in game? Her ISO reads flippant and rather curt.
Looking at Jackson I am also drawn to the statement in 1060 Re alignment, just seems performative. OK it’s not even tangible but it sticks in my mind.
What part of it? I can try and comment
I thought that was obvious, but right now to me its not important, vote Elements please
In post 1094, Afrayed Knott wrote:
Seems I don’t have too. You are playing a completely different game and you are not coming across to me as town. You should be limmed. Take a seat and enjoy the rest
It's not even a good push
It's a meta read based off day 1 from 1 game
And you were supposedly "hard town reading" me before the 25th. That's such a weak reason to push me. It's like you're looking for something to say because you want to push me, not that you've looked at me, had thoughts and decided I'm red team
And? If it is such a bad read why even respond to the post? Why does it get you so emotive?
In post 1104, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I haven’t read further than page 10 but I don’t like Black and Titus repped black so I’d rather that than Elements
VOTE: Titus
Meh this is a bad vote late on D2 on a player who is obviously not getting limmed
the replace-ins almost made me forgot that Jackson/Afrayed is a real possibility
You would be wrong about me, but then you are probably reading the slot and not me. So keep those blinkers on if you are town and go all the way to a lose
In post 1104, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I haven’t read further than page 10 but I don’t like Black and Titus repped black so I’d rather that than Elements
VOTE: Titus
Meh this is a bad vote late on D2 on a player who is obviously not getting limmed
the replace-ins almost made me forgot that Jackson/Afrayed is a real possibility
You would be wrong about me, but then you are probably reading the slot and not me. So keep those blinkers on if you are town and go all the way to a lose
Now who's being aggressive
If you think that is aggressive you are sadly living a sheltered life
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Post #1134 (isolation #56) » Thu Dec 28, 2023 7:10 am
Postby Afrayed Knott »
In post 1072, Afrayed Knott wrote:
Question on Cook, to those who know her style. Was she always so short as town in her responses to questions and statements in game? Her ISO reads flippant and rather curt.
Looking at Jackson I am also drawn to the statement in 1060 Re alignment, just seems performative. OK it’s not even tangible but it sticks in my mind.
I didn’t get an answer to my question, so I remain unsure
Elements has been in the game longer so I think more info will be gained by her lim. But then again it could be you as I said here
In post 992, Afrayed Knott wrote:
I’ve been reading Black’s ISO and I’m not sure if I feel all too confident in my concerns with Titus now. I have played a few games recently with Black and in 2 of those I was correct in Vibing her slot as scum. Here there is a niggle of a doubt that she may well have been playing the slot as scum again, but that just could be bias on my part. If I look at the balance of posts between what is purely statements on mechanics or, in a small way, could be considered perfomative, vs actual scum hunting, it’s about the same.
I stated that I had concerns on Titus’ input, and this was before I realised that she had subbed into Blacks slot. My concerns were mainly that Titus’ posts read just thread filler in my initial read. There is not much of it and little real content, but I am going to sway on the side of caution for now and also take into consideration the fact that she may well be inactive because of the time of year.
