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Post #850 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:41 pm
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by Dannflor » Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:41 pm
No need to rush it but yes i will jail neko
If neko dies today ill jail sky
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Post #851 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:02 pm
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by FakeGod » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:02 pm
Very good.
We may rush now. Vote your nearest wagon.
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Post #852 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:05 pm
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by NekoLover » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:05 pm
In post 820 , FakeGod wrote:
In post 813 , Dannflor wrote:
It’s unfortunate but due to the setup scum’s best move was not to kill anyone last night.
Holy shit you are right
How did this setup pass as Newbie setup???
are they high?
Maybe because it wasn't meant to be played with experienced players that could eliminate the scum d1
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Post #853 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:05 pm
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by Skygazer » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:05 pm
VOTE: neko
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Post #854 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:32 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:32 pm
Okay I expected Klick to die but am still sad
I am pretty sure that everyone on Kawaii's wagon is town, judging by the natural way it developed (there's like 5% chance Black is scum but am not pushing her today), so I think just quickfading the other 3 players wins the game.
What do you say, Dann?
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Post #855 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:35 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:35 pm
The only reason I suggest quickfading is I want this game over in 2023 so I can use it in scummy nominations (not saying for who just yet
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Post #856 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:38 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:38 pm
Oh okay Dann avrees with me
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Post #857 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:38 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:38 pm
Agrees
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Post #858 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:41 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:41 pm
Or maybe not considering his claim
So anyway let's kill Skygazer?
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Post #859 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:45 pm
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by NekoLover » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:45 pm
Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?
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Post #860 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:46 pm
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by Dannflor » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:46 pm
In post 852 , NekoLover wrote:
In post 820 , FakeGod wrote:
In post 813 , Dannflor wrote:
It’s unfortunate but due to the setup scum’s best move was not to kill anyone last night.
Holy shit you are right
How did this setup pass as Newbie setup???
are they high?
Maybe because it wasn't meant to be played with experienced players that could eliminate the scum d1
Yeah this setup is very well balanced actually (although various sub-setups lean various ways), but it is notoriously difficult for scum if a mafia member dies D1. ESPECIALLY, if that mafia member is a role blocker
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Post #861 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:46 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:46 pm
In post 842 , Claptastik wrote:
In post 838 , FakeGod wrote:
I sorta figured that you had an ace in the hole to smash the hammer like that
Yep. The hammer without intent made me look a bit scummy, which was good as that decreased my chance of being NK'd. OTOH if Kawaii had flipped town and I got pushed, I knew I could claim. Also a claim isn't that bad in this setup, as I believe a tracker claim means there's a JK or a chance of a doc, so scum can't just kill the tracker risk free. Setup seems to be a little town-sided.
Just a comment on that (and also on FakeGod's complaint of "why was this approved as a newbie?"):
All 9 player setups seem "townsided" if scum flip Day 1, because almost any PR that can get an inno is totally busted when scum flipped Day 1. The thing is scum has like 25% chance by default to flip Day 1 (or maybe 33% if you take better than random reads into account), so you do need these PRs for town not to lost in the majority of the time. This setup actually is balanced.
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Post #862 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:46 pm
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by Dannflor » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:46 pm
In post 859 , NekoLover wrote:
Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?
Yes, but if scum doesn’t kill, they have to deal with 3 confirmed innocent players
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Post #863 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:48 pm
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by NekoLover » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:48 pm
In post 862 , Dannflor wrote:
In post 859 , NekoLover wrote:
Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?
Yes, but if scum doesn’t kill, they have to deal with 3 confirmed innocent players
Yea that's true, not eliminating allows town to confirm more roles; Man scum just lost this game that fast, right? That's actually kinda boring
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Post #864 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:49 pm
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by Black » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:49 pm
In post 859 , NekoLover wrote:
Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?
This sounds like something newscum would ask
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Post #865 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:50 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:50 pm
VOTE: Sky
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Post #866 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:50 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:50 pm
In post 859 , NekoLover wrote:
Wait so isn't scums best bet to not eliminate anyway to frame a jailed player?
VOTE: Neko
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Post #867 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:51 pm
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by Black » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:51 pm
VOTE: Neko
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Post #868 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:52 pm
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by NekoLover » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:52 pm
I'm mainly concerned with being framed as i'm the jail target but if you want to flip on me go ahead
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Post #869 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:52 pm
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by NekoLover » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:52 pm
That's hammer I believe
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Post #870 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:54 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:54 pm
In post 860 , Dannflor wrote:
In post 852 , NekoLover wrote:
In post 820 , FakeGod wrote:
In post 813 , Dannflor wrote:
It’s unfortunate but due to the setup scum’s best move was not to kill anyone last night.
Holy shit you are right
How did this setup pass as Newbie setup???
are they high?
Maybe because it wasn't meant to be played with experienced players that could eliminate the scum d1
Yeah this setup is very well balanced actually (although various sub-setups lean various ways), but it is notoriously difficult for scum if a mafia member dies D1. ESPECIALLY, if that mafia member is a role blocker
Also if the goon gets run up instead of the RB, they can force a CC of the cop/tracker and prevent town from getting any investigation results at all (due to roleblocker blocking them).
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Post #871 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:54 pm
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by Black » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:54 pm
It's either Neko, Sky, or Dragon. I don't think we can lose
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Post #872 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:56 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:56 pm
Sorry Neko if you town
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Post #873 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:56 pm
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by DragonEater70 » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:56 pm
GG either way and let's do a fast night please
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Post #874 (ISO ) » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:57 pm
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by NekoLover » Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:57 pm
Also incase it isn't hammer and i've counted wrong VOTE: nekolover
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