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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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Day 1 town flip: now 2/2 but during Night 1 Enchant forced to die from assumed vig/bg action or Leaf from shielding Enchant to interrupt the self-kill
Day 2: now 2/1
Day 1 wolf flip: now 3/1 but the lazy modifier which must exist on Enchant's role because of the guarantee the game won't end before day 2 means he doesn't have to self-kill; however he cannot use the standard nightkill due to still having another compulsive action of fruitvendor
Day 2: still 3/1, and the wolf still cannot use the nightkill due to having a compulsive action Night 2 as well, so the wolf surviving here sends the game to day 3 at 2:1
Basically, wolves have to get two miseliminations through regardless of who gets flipped first."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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I type slow"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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I gonna just remind that while this conclusion looks simple, we didn't figure it out (which is silly really).
Aureal didn't point it UNTIL i voted her, and she suddenly needed to find dirt on me.Wizard-Mercenary
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Why are we still talking about mech-
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Whether the game landed in 3v1 or 2v1 it doesn't really matter? Unless ur using it to case Enchant in particular for how they acted (which I am not seeing you doing? Could be wrong) what's the point in talking about it?-
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Mech is part of mafia game, like it or don't.Wizard-Mercenary
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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Yeah, I thought you guys understood it once we concluded what the hidden wolf role likely is, you're both good with mech. You just said stuff that made me realize you hadn't actually thought it through. Or rather, one of you hadn't thought it through.
It's really lucky Enchant had just voted me by the time I realized that or I may well have jumped on Jackson right there. I reeeeeally thought he understood it, he just played a game where he was literally giving that vig/bg thing out as an invention. And Enchant is literally the one who suggested it, so he definitely should've known."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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If i am mafia, how i send fruits to you both.
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Wait it's stupid argument, FL also fruit vendor, nvmWizard-Mercenary
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Yes but will it change the reason I vote somebody? No, it won't.In post 406, Enchant wrote: Mech is part of mafia game, like it or don't.-
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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Because you're saying it doesn't matter and I don't see how it doesn't matter. 2:1 here means the wolf just needs to yeet one more townie today to win. 3:1 means they need to do it today and tomorrow. This is like, by definition, a harder task.In post 405, JacksonVirgo wrote: Whether the game landed in 3v1 or 2v1 it doesn't really matter? Unless ur using it to case Enchant in particular for how they acted (which I am not seeing you doing? Could be wrong) what's the point in talking about it?
I mostly just wanted to correct what I realized was bad assumptions you had but for Enchant specifically, now that I realize he's wolf I feel like understanding the setup properly helps illustrate that his claim of Informed doesn't fit well. There's no nightkills at all, a wolf is guaranteed to die, and they still need to yeet two of three town along the way. Town having a role that could potentially just lockscum the remaining wolf on day 2 is overkill."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Games on MafiaScum are hilariously townsided, your argument voided.Wizard-Mercenary
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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I think I literally just explained it there but let me try to elaborate if that's not clear. There's an existing setup where the opposite alignment of the day 1 elimination dies on night 1, right? Which is what we just sort of were rolling with as how this works for a while there. Does town get any sort of power in that setup?"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Why do you think Enchant decided to vote you, as a wolf, when they could have waited for either of us to cross-vote as that was much more likely to happen than one of us voting for EnchantIn post 411, Aureal wrote: I mostly just wanted to correct what I realized was bad assumptions you had but for Enchant specifically, now that I realize he's wolf I feel like understanding the setup properly helps illustrate that his claim of Informed doesn't fit well. There's no nightkills at all, a wolf is guaranteed to die, and they still need to yeet two of three town along the way. Town having a role that could potentially just lockscum the remaining wolf on day 2 is overkill.-
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I don't understand why town would need to have their role, I also don't understand why scum!enchant would claim it knowing both of us were going to be claiming to have been fruit-vended.-
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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This setup is basically that one except harder for wolves because they don't even get a complementary night 1 town kill if one of them gets voted out. And now we throw in some townie with information too so they can get caught in a fakeclaim? It's like having a n1 town rolecop on top of how the setup was made more favorable. It doesn't fit."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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My role is literal vibecheck.Wizard-Mercenary
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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Meh, Enchant gets bored easily and had such a good-sounding case that he wouldn't feel threatened. Being willing to vote first just makes you look even better, right? Note that he voted me, the person who was expressing less certainty about reads. You seemed pretty locked on to me, just look at how much he's been telling you to just go ahead and hammer already.In post 415, JacksonVirgo wrote:
Why do you think Enchant decided to vote you, as a wolf, when they could have waited for either of us to cross-vote as that was much more likely to happen than one of us voting for EnchantIn post 411, Aureal wrote: I mostly just wanted to correct what I realized was bad assumptions you had but for Enchant specifically, now that I realize he's wolf I feel like understanding the setup properly helps illustrate that his claim of Informed doesn't fit well. There's no nightkills at all, a wolf is guaranteed to die, and they still need to yeet two of three town along the way. Town having a role that could potentially just lockscum the remaining wolf on day 2 is overkill."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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I know it's more akin of time wasters and quests for nothing, but i welcome you to find bianco game where town didn't had PRs, while mafia did.Wizard-Mercenary
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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He thinks claiming something other than VT makes him look extra town, rather than scum fakeclaiming. Just look at what he's posting right now about how bianco games must have a PR (as if a 5-person game is comparable to a standard size in terms of balance!). He even got to make a little fake gambit for me, to look like he's helping solve even though it was doomed to go nowhere. There wasn't really any real risk to him in doing it, he claimed last and we didn't seem to be assessing the gamestate properly.In post 416, JacksonVirgo wrote: I don't understand why town would need to have their role, I also don't understand why scum!enchant would claim it knowing both of us were going to be claiming to have been fruit-vended."Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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Aureal she/herMafia Scumshe/her
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You say that like you think I don't already hate you"Yeah after a point it felt like Aureal was the only one talking sense despite being a goose so I just followed."
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