The more townies refuse to compromise the more it becomes acceptable for scum to visit my refuse to compromise which then makes day 2 inferences less powerful and then hellbooks snows me but then misplays by shooting me and I feel like I didn't deserve to win
In post 325, May wrote:
The more townies refuse to compromise the more it becomes acceptable for scum to visit my refuse to compromise which then makes day 2 inferences less powerful and then hellbooks snows me but then misplays by shooting me and I feel like I didn't deserve to win
We just started putting lists together I don't think the narrative that townies are refusing to compromise is true
In post 325, May wrote:
The more townies refuse to compromise the more it becomes acceptable for scum to visit my refuse to compromise which then makes day 2 inferences less powerful and then hellbooks snows me but then misplays by shooting me and I feel like I didn't deserve to win
We just started putting lists together I don't think the narrative that townies are refusing to compromise is true
Implosion INVITED me to THINK about the SETUP Black!
My personal individual confidence level at this moment is pretty high, but I certainly can be wrong and am open to being persuaded if you have reasons to disagree. (I also am looking forward to seeing more reads/analysis by them)
The double pivot looks bad. It's just less likely for two reads to organically flip compared to 1 but 2 slot changes isnt as coincidental for scum air traffic controlling pressure.
I feel like the baseline opinion that I've come to after many years is that changing opinions is, in most forms, a towntell. I agree that a natural significant opinion change is sort of a priori unlikely, but I think scum deciding to make a post where they abandon their whole-ass worldview and pick a new one is also quite unlikely, and we must be in one of those two universes. I think it's particularly unlikely for scum Aventurine here because I'm not sure what it really gains out of this maneuver, Black was actively scumreading it and I was kind of being coy but I don't think my post sounded exactly thrilled with its play.
I do think going from "I don't like Black and implosion" to folding under joint pressure from both of us and now including us both in the coalition is definitely jarring. I think it could make sense coming from a townie with low confidence reads which seems to be the case here, at least the latter part
In post 333, implosion wrote:
I feel like the baseline opinion that I've come to after many years is that changing opinions is, in most forms, a towntell. I agree that a natural significant opinion change is sort of a priori unlikely, but I think scum deciding to make a post where they abandon their whole-ass worldview and pick a new one is also quite unlikely, and we must be in one of those two universes. I think it's particularly unlikely for scum Aventurine here because I'm not sure what it really gains out of this maneuver, Black was actively scumreading it and I was kind of being coy but I don't think my post sounded exactly thrilled with its play.
As a mafiosi I refuse to change my opinion and accept this one
This is the second time it feels like you're templatizing the game and then reading it instead of reading it. Aside from how it makes me skeptical of the outcomes it feels harder to read and that's frustrating
I don't think that complaint is universal though your Cutter B takes were fine
I don't really care about reevaluating my hip shot that black rolled town until after her being 20% of the coalition doesn't win the game or her being 20% of the coalition crashes the wii and I take a break from practicing chain jacket glitch to practice nayru's love vertical displacement glitch
In post 311, implosion wrote:
I would also like to be explicit here that I do not have a read on Aventurine right now. I'm not convinced that this line of argumentation is scummy. I understand why Black sees it that way but I don't really see it that way, at least not yet.
My feelings on the game as a whole right now are that I like myself, Umlaut, and then Moros/Black (less confidently than Umlaut) as coalition members; I want to find a fifth. I don't feel confident on anyone else right now; I don't like Tsawwassen at this moment but everyone else I'm sort of not really leaning strongly on at the moment.
Also an open question to people broadly: how do you feel about compromising? I feel like the current state of the game is very, people describing Their Coalition. It feels like there's relatively little working together to build cohesion - there's a bit in that Black came to agree with Tsawwassen but on the whole it feels a bit like in this gamestate people aren't going to compromise a whole lot. Which is totally fine right now given how much time we have until deadline but I just want to throw out there that, eventually, it will become less okay.
i liked black and implosion's reactions to it the most, they felt real to me, like they wanted to look for town. ceejay i am most suspicious of now i think.
In post 337, May wrote:
This is the second time it feels like you're templatizing the game and then reading it instead of reading it. Aside from how it makes me skeptical of the outcomes it feels harder to read and that's frustrating
I don't think that complaint is universal though your Cutter B takes were fine
i felt this way earlier but i think now that he has good intentions.
This is ceejay's ISO that game. It definitely seems like he was trying to make a conscious effort to seem involved
In post 266, May wrote:
I don't think he's making less effort to seem participatory here
I acknowledge that I see these posts but at the same time I don't really have anything to say about this unless you directly ask me something specific about that game or something
idk I just felt like calling this out
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
Where does this come from? Is it by some comparison of our play with the 9:12 game, or otherwise?
yes? you and Black's play here have been really straightforward on trying to figure out alignments and having some knowledge on how you and Black play based on that game I feel like kind of reinforces my read to some extent
Ceejay is only gonna get better but his logic can be on the wrong side of lazy logic sometimes. ~the worst
