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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:44 pm

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cj+may early townreads.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:44 pm

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In post 42, implosion wrote: A "typical" coalition in this setup involves 5 players collectively deciding that they are the coalition, and thus all 5 of those players would vote for themselves. In fact it's technically mathematically impossible to form a coalition without at least one player voting for themself: there are 5 people on the coalition, and 5 people voting for the coalition, and in a player list of 9 people that list must overlap at at least one player.
Wait you're right

That means I'm forced to suffer nominating people that nominated themselves :cry:
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:45 pm

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Yeah I agree with the visual abomination that is . Some of us will have to adjust our lists if we don't have a natural consensus
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:50 pm

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Now I will only nominate people who nominate themselves
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:51 pm

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HEAL: May, Umlaut, cj
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:57 pm

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In post 51, Tsawwassen wrote: That means I'm forced to suffer nominating people that nominated themselves
That's not true!

You always have the option to just not vote for the coalition that forms
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:57 pm

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In post 50, implosion wrote: cj+may early townreads.
may i ask what the meaning is behind your heal votes? if you do not townread myself and our friend, s 100% meaningless, which i will call them for short, as their legal name is cumbersome.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:58 pm

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i did very seriously consider doing a Hurt on s 100% meaningless but i did not want to clutter the page :X
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:58 pm

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and the heal vote on you is because ceejay healed you
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:59 pm

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I do think you also have pretty good town equity
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:01 pm

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In post 55, implosion wrote:
In post 51, Tsawwassen wrote: That means I'm forced to suffer nominating people that nominated themselves
That's not true!

You always have the option to just not vote for the coalition that forms
I would like to have a stake in the coalition!
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:03 pm

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I'm a little nervous about putting May in. I feel like the band post could have been an attempt to get her bandmates to vote for her

Implosion feels good but I'm not confident there yet
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:04 pm

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I guess Aventurine feels good too but that might be because he agreed with me
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:04 pm

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I'm healing cj but I don't actually townread them yet

I'm good with including implosion and Moros in the coalition though!
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:09 pm

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Yeah Moros seems fine
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:10 pm

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I think my gut read on May is making me feel even better about implosion and Moros. Though there's the possibility scum!May included her buddy in the band
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:21 pm

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Meh, mech talk. I nommed myself because I'm town and I want to nom people who are town.
In post 26, Tsawwassen wrote: I won't nominate people who nominate themselves
Weird. (Looks like you backed out of this quickly though)
In post 28, Moros wrote: i will nominate a person if and only if the person doesn't nominate themself
Okay, Bertrand.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:23 pm

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Actually

HEAL: Tsawwassen

It's a bit moon-logicky but I find the immediate about-face towny.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:28 pm

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@Tsawwassen
, do you have previous Mafia experience?
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:28 pm

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In post 66, Umlaut wrote: I nommed myself because I'm town and I want to nom people who are town.
Wow you said the thang about being the thang and doing the thang
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:32 pm

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In post 68, Umlaut wrote:
@Tsawwassen
, do you have previous Mafia experience?
i was somewhat wondering this
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:34 pm

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yeah I'm an alt
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:40 pm

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In post 46, implosion wrote:
In post 40, Aventurine wrote: And this compromise lies in not nominating yourself? Coalition-making is a different process from voting on coalitions.
This is also something to highlight in this setup; mechanically speaking, HEALs are 100% meaningless unless you heal 5 people. Voting for a coalition of 4 players will never actually mechanically contribute to a coalition forming because the day ends when 5 people have all voted for the same 5 people.

This is not to say we oughtn't vote because it's a good way to telegraph an opinion. But votes don't carry the mechanical weight that they do in a normal game of mafia, where voting for a player is putting them one step closer to being eliminated. Even voting for a full coalition doesn't have the same sort of weight because it own't matter unless 4 other people agree on the
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Yikes, I’ll see myself out. I
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misunderstood the setup, since I didn’t really read it in detail; I assumed we were making coalitions first and then voting on several different coalitions. I guess they’re similar, through.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:40 pm

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Going to take a gamble and say that Umlaut is likely to be town.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:51 pm

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from an objective perspective, i think there is a 72% chance that there's scum in the band. from a subjective perspective, i think it's Black.

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