Scumleague FF 2017 (1 ACL and counting...)

[T-Bone]

Shut your face, I haven't lost yet. Mixon is going off for three touchdowns tonight.

[PokerFace]

PEG and racefan have clinched their divisions so they are in playoffs.

Pablito plays Jahudo next week. Winner is in playoffs and will have highest overall record out of division 3. They will win division 3

Cow plays Panzer next week. Winner will be tied with loser of Pabs vs Jahudo in overall record. Who has highest overall score will make playoffs as division 3 crown will already be decided.

[PJ.]

*shrug*

I posted the facts. That's all I'm interested in.

The facts are that he could of put you in relegation. But he didn't set his lineup. So.....what facts.

Which is only true if he gets relegated in which case the conversation would be pointless to have. And even that assumes he could have made up 70 points or whatever it is. And I covered that in my post when I said he hurt his own overall rank in terms or promotion/relegation. And if he isn't in relegation range, relegating him saves someone anyway which doesn't really solve that issue.

I literally had this exact argument when I left Luck in for like 4 weeks while he was hurt and got relegated. It didn't affect playoffs or relegation and I got put down(I won at least half the games in question). The rules are if you miss multiple weeks, it doesn't matter what the results are. Bring a doctors note, ya know?

[PJ.]

10 teams is so much of a fucking joke. Just draft better and make smarter wire pickups. If anything, I'd argue to reduce the bench size before axeing two teams.

This is the stupidest paragraph I've ever read, congrats.

just for shits and giggles what even is your argument for a 10 team league?

More options. You actually can waiver playable personnel instead of the best WR option from FA being Dede westbrook or Ryan Grant. You can actual waiver wire players that aren't lottery picks. And "drafting better" isn't really a solution to the problem. Players get hurt(ie. David Johnson, Odell Beckham, Aaron Rodgers, Greg Olsen, or any other number of top 5/10 projected players in their position). Some players under perform due to other people getting injured(Mike Evans a good example here). Being able to solve those problems in a satisfactory way that doesn't involve playing the lottery every week on a no-name scrub is actually nice.

The difference would only be about 10 WRs total. There’s not much of a differences between the 51st best WR (best non-rostered WR in a 10 team league assuming everyone has 5 WRs) and the 61st best (12-team). The difference last year was between DeVante Parker (98.4 points) and Terrence Williams (81.4). Both suck. And everyone is picking from the same boat.

It

is

a big difference though. Because it not really a difference of 51st and 61st. It's there 70 WRs rostered in L2. And 52 RBS. That's ridiculous. There were several weeks this season where you would go to the typical fantasy football sites for "pick ups of the week" and they'd all already be on teams from the week before.

[PJ.]

PEG and racefan have clinched their divisions so they are in playoffs.

Pablito plays Jahudo next week. Winner is in playoffs and will have highest overall record out of division 3. They will win division 3

Cow plays Panzer next week. Winner will be tied with loser of Pabs vs Jahudo in overall record. Who has highest overall score will make playoffs as division 3 crown will already be decided.

It'a not division record first?

[Kmd4390]

*shrug*

I posted the facts. That's all I'm interested in.

The facts are that he could of put you in relegation. But he didn't set his lineup. So.....what facts.

Which is only true if he gets relegated in which case the conversation would be pointless to have. And even that assumes he could have made up 70 points or whatever it is. And I covered that in my post when I said he hurt his own overall rank in terms or promotion/relegation. And if he isn't in relegation range, relegating him saves someone anyway which doesn't really solve that issue.

I literally had this exact argument when I left Luck in for like 4 weeks while he was hurt and got relegated. It didn't affect playoffs or relegation and I got put down(I won at least half the games in question). The rules are if you miss multiple weeks, it doesn't matter what the results are. Bring a doctors note, ya know?

Ah, ok

[racefan12]

Based on the way the league standings have been shown for the season up to now, division record is the first tiebreaker for division winners, but points scored is the tiebreaker for everything else.

[Rob14]

10 teams is so much of a fucking joke. Just draft better and make smarter wire pickups. If anything, I'd argue to reduce the bench size before axeing two teams.

The bottom 4 in L1 (9, 10, 11, 12) go to L2

Top 3 in L2 go to L1.

last place in l2 goes to L3

Winner of L3 goes to L1.

I think bottom four in L2 go to L3 and #2-4 in L3 go to L2? It's definitely not true that the only way out of L3 is to win and get put in L1.

[Xalxe]

Scumleague FF 2016 (.500 or Bust)

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[PokerFace]

PEG and racefan have clinched their divisions so they are in playoffs.

Pablito plays Jahudo next week. Winner is in playoffs and will have highest overall record out of division 3. They will win division 3

Cow plays Panzer next week. Winner will be tied with loser of Pabs vs Jahudo in overall record. Who has highest overall score will make playoffs as division 3 crown will already be decided.

It'a not division record first?

Gamesbre and KMD play each other next week. Both should be tied at 6-7. Loser will be 6-8. Looking at odds and status of other teams in league 6-8 is almost a guaranteed relegation. Especially for a low scoring team. If gamesbre does not set his lineup again, then I think he will be relegated. Allow me to explain

After week 10, gamesbre led division 1 because him and peg had the same overall record and gamesbre had a better divisional record. I was 5th after that week. Week 11, Peg won, Game lost, I lost. I moved to 4th place overall. How you ask? Games record overall was now worse than Pegs. Because Games overall record was worse, the division record did not matter. Peg led division 1 after week 11. Gamesbre was now 7th. And I was then 4th. Overall record matters most. If and only if there is a tie there then division record matters next. If there is no tie, then score is used to decide wild card.

Pablito has beaten Cow already this week. If Jahudo loses to panzer then Jahudo and Pablito will both be 8-5. Pabs division record will be 4-1, Jahudo's will be 2-3. Pablito will be division leader but he will still be 4th seed as Jahudo will have a higher overall score.

[PokerFace]

As I outlined above, Jahudo is currently listed as 3 and pablito is 4. Pablito has the division leader symbol by his name while Jahudo has the higher overall score. Division record only decides who leads division, not who gets higher seed. As Pablito and Jahudo play each other next week, winner of that will have a higher overall record so they will then lead division 3. Division record is only a tie breaker if the division is not yet decided. Since that will decide it, score will decide who is 4th and who is 5th.

Current Division 3 scores

Jahudo 1210.76 (8-5)
Pablito 1148.26 (8-5)
Panzer 1139.12 (7-6)
Cow 1133.98 (7-6)

So your best chance Panzer is for Jahudo to win, you to win and for you to out score Pablito by 9.15. Otherwise good luck getting the win and 72+ points above Jahudo.

All projections but 1 paned out last night. Wraith won so he still has a chance to avoid relegation. Racefan lost so he did not clinch #1 seed he only clinched his division.

[racefan12]

Lesson learned: Never believe pre-game reports about potentially injured star players

[AGar]

Divisions only really work if our scheduling doesn't get completely fucked up heyyyy

[Flameaxe]

Divisions only really work if our scheduling doesn't get completely fucked up heyyyy

ayyyy

[PJ.]

okay, i guess I'm rooting for Jahudo then.

[pickemgenius]

okay, i guess I'm rooting for Jahudo then.

fwiw if the projections hold true (projections lul) they have pabs and you winning and you having the 4th spot won from divisional record over jahudo.

[PJ.]

Poker face just said that doesn't matter, tho. Only Points for when it comes to wild card.

[pickemgenius]

Poker face just said that doesn't matter, tho. Only Points for when it comes to wild card.

i know which is why im really confused as to why projections say youre in 4th if you and pabs win this week.

[PJ.]

projections where?

[PokerFace]

What/which projections have him in forth with a Pablito victory and lower than Jahudo points?

[pablito]

No matter what it's exciting to have a division so wide open on the last game. Well done to all four of us. But yes it's going to suck for both that lose especially if it's a tight game.

[Nero Cain]

Divisions only really work if our scheduling doesn't get completely fucked up heyyyy

ikr. also good def pick up.

[pickemgenius]

What/which projections have him in forth with a Pablito victory and lower than Jahudo points?

As in the current projections via yahoo, this is what theyve got.

[PokerFace]

I would not trust that screen. I just made a change to my line up that gives me more overall projected points in my game and that view still lists me as losing and getting tenth. I would rather believe my logic

Edit: Also right now Lamora and I have same overall record. He has better division record while I have higher score, and right now I am in the higher place. The current standing go directly against those projected standings. Those projected standings have us both losing and somehow he takes over my place? More reason to believe the projected standings view you have there is messed up

Edit: Also Matchup projections right now have Panzer losing to cow, but your current view says panzer wins. Something is wrong with the projected standings compared to matchup standings and actual current standings. So I gonna trust my logic

[xRECKONERx]

this is my regular "4 playoff spots in a 12 person league is absurd" post