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Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:38 pm

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When the seagulls
c
ry, there are no survivors


Hello everyone, and welcome to the forum game version of Umineko (kind of)!
To be able to play, you must read the rules first, though the simple explanation is that this game is a murder mystery.

How to play

This game is to be played with a minimum of 2 players and a maximum of 20 players including the Game Master (GM) or Host. Though the number of players depends on how many the hosts needs.

Every "turn" several murders occur until all 18 characters on the "
Game Board
" inevitably die in seemingly humanly impossible ways. It is the players' job to discover as much information as possible while everyone is alive and decide on a certain verdict that they must argue in order to rebut the GM's claim. The players must come up with ways that the murders could have been possible through methods which the GM has intentionally left hidden. The game ends at the resignation of all players or when the GM has been proven wrong during the Meta Phase when all 18-19 humans have been eliminated. When the game has ended, the "Tea Party" is initiated for several days in order to discuss possible errors, suggestions or the round in general.
Every turn is separated into two phases, The Game Board Phase and The Meta Phase.

The Game Board Phase

This is when new murders are discovered. Here, living players may move throughout the mansions rooms as listed by the GM or question other living characters, it is the Game Master's duty to answer the question as the game piece that has been questioned, for example:
TakumiHijirihara wrote:I question Ryax, "Where were you at the time of the murders?"
Segaco wrote:Ryax replies "I was with Xerxes and Flaming in the study."
The information received may be interpreted in whatever way the player wishes, additionally the GM is not obligated to give the truth during Game Board phase, the character that is being questioned is able to refuse to answer a certain question, lie, or tell the complete truth to the extent of their own knowledge. If a game piece is killed, they may not be questioned, if a player's piece is killed, they may no longer question anyone. Once Game Board phase has ended, no more questions may be asked until the next turn.
The number of victims per Game Board Phase are determined by the GM and may vary between 1 and 5. Exception to this are the first deaths, which may be 6. A corpse does not have to be found for every victim. There must be at least 2 humans alive during the last turn before they are inevitably killed off. The GM then writes a summary of where and when every corpse was discovered at the end of the final Game Board phase with the exception of the final victims whose corpses are not to be found but are considered dead.
Game Board phase ends when all necessary clues are discovered.

The Meta Phase

Here is when discussion on the murders that occurred in The Game Board phase happen. This phase lasts 24 hours. Here, the players must question and debate with the GM themselves by using what is known as
Blue
and
Red
truths.

The Blue Truth

It is used by players to set forth a statement that makes a theory.
This text is the truth unless said otherwise by the GM using the red text. If the GM fails to disprove the statement by the last Meta Phase, it becomes absolute truth and the player is considered to have solved that murder. The GM is able to use the blue text to supply possibilities as to how their opponent's blue truth is not effective.

The Red Truth

The truth and nothing but the truth used by the GM (or Host), this is used to disprove theories the players make with the blue truth and conjecture placed by the players but additionally for the players to recall already stated facts. The GM does not have to show any proof to back up a red truth. Additionally, the GM is not obligated to use the red text when prompted.

Example of both truths in action:
TakumiHijirihara wrote:
The door was locked from the outside of the room.
The culprit used a master key to lock the door.
A secret passage exists.
Segaco wrote:Nopity nope,
The door was locked from the inside.
No master keys exist.
No secret passages exist.
Roles

They aren't really roles, but there are some.
Players may be assigned these. Or not.

-
Detective
: There is only one detective per game, and everything the detective sees can be considered as the truth. So if he sees a witch appear in front of them out of thin air, it is the truth. Though that will not happen unless I get a very clever idea on how to pull off that trick. Anyone other than the detective may see things that are impossible.
Abilities

-The detective has something known as "duct tape". They are able to seal three rooms with it (all entrances/exits). If someone opens a door/window of a sealed room, the tape put on them will break, so the detective will know someone used them if they check on the duct tape again.
-Detectives can 100% confirm a death, so if they check and body and find it dead, the body they found is confirmed to be dead and not faking it.
-A detective cannot be the culprit. They also can't be an accomplice.
-The detective must live to the end of the game.

-
Doctor
: There is only one doctor.
Abilities

-The doctor may confirm the death of all victims every turn if he's in the same room as them (if he's an accomplice he is able to lie).

-
Helper
: There is only one Helper. They do not help anyone, I just couldn't think of a better name.
Abilities

-Helpers are able to place a piece of paper in the door crack of any one room, the player is told immediately when this piece of paper hits the floor (in PMs. They can tell other players).
-In the Meta Phase, once per turn, Helper can force the GM to repeat a statement in Red, if the GM is unable to due to the statement being false/they refuse, they can try again until the Red Truth is used.

-
Everyone else
: They are people, they can move around, be scared, talk and other things.

The game doesn't necessarily need all players to be either doctors/watsons/detectives.
Though I can confirm that
a detective will appear on every game and it will always be a player.


Tips

Anyone can be the culprit or an accomplice, except for the detective.
If you are the culprit or an accomplice, you will not know. You won't be told what your character does in secret. Except for the detective.
Anyone who is not the detective will see impossible things, like an apple appearing out of thin air and then disappearing right in front of their eyes. This will not happen if the detective is present.
And yes, this does have a logical explanation.
One last thing,
umineko's special answer will never be used here. I don't really like spoiling people. Do not suggest it.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:38 pm

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Maps

First floor:
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Second floor:
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Third floor:
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Basement:
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Players

For the first game i'll need four people. But I'll go with two, should be fine.

1. Lady Lambdadelta
2. JDGA
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:39 pm

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Game 1 red truths:

There are more than two keys that can unlock the dining hall's door.
There wasn't and isn't anyone hiding in the Dining Hall.
No one has left though a window.
Every victim died at point blank range with the culprit being in the same room.
The door was locked when Luka arrived to the Dining Hall in the morning.
The door was not locked with a master key.
Only five master keys exist.
The key which was found inside the envelope belonged to Fracie.
From the moment Luka arrived the Dining Hall to when the envelope was opened, the kitchen door remained closed.
The riddle is, in fact, solvable. Sadly, it will not stop the killings. Solving it and sending the answer to me will give you a free useful red, which you may share with the others if you wish.
No one has left through a window.
The only keys which can lock the dining hall's main door are the five master keys and the Dining Hall's key.
There are no more than twelve living humans on the island. Wizards, witches, and the such do not count as "humans".
All twelve living humans entered the dining hall through the dining hall's main door at some point after Luka discovered the bodies.
The culprit had the aid of an accomplice.
The murder weapon was never in the kitchen.
The murder weapon is not currently in the dining hall.
A murder weapon exists.
The murder weapon did not leave the dining hall through the window.
The murder weapon left the dining hall through the dining hall's main door.
The culprit was the one who locked the door.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:41 pm

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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:41 pm

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This cannot possibly end poorly
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:17 am

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Difficulty of the game: Easy-Medium

Well, two people should do. Also, I'm not very original with names so I kind of went with the first thing I thought of.
Anyway,
I'll now tell you who you are on the story:
Lady Lambdadelta is Wuxya White, who is also the detective of this game.
JDGA is Orange Duckling, who is the helper of this game.


Now give me a minute...
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:25 am

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It is October 4th, 1968.
Eleven people have been invited to a private island owned by Xerxes Lefan, a wealthy man known for buying an entire island for himself. No one knows where he got all his money from.
Most of the people Xerxes has invited are his old classmates, who he had lost contact with long ago. Xerxes had also invited some more people, but they either rejected his invitation or did not bother to answer to his invitation letter.
One of the guests, Wuxya White, who happens to be a detective, has been assigned to investigate Xerxes: Xerxes is suspected for having stolen three billion dollars from different banks. The reason of the suspicion is because, after four banks had claimed their vaults were empty, a common person who had average income suddenly had enough money to buy a private island, build a mansion in it and hire servants.
The other ten guests know nothing of this, of course. Wuxya'sobjective is to gather enough evidence to make an arrest without being found.

All guests eventually arrive to the island by boat.
Tech Netorius
and his wife
Fen Netorius
are the first to step on the island along with their 10-year old daugther
Jezz Netorius
.
After them follow
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and
Nate Turner
, two friends who would do anything for the other.
The next people to walk off the boat are
Yarn Watch
and
Ryax Corney
.
The last four people to get off are
Wuxya White
,
John Watson
,
Thorus Idiotus
, and
Orange Duckling
.
Once everyone was on the island, the guests wave the owner of the boat farewell while he leaves with the boat to mainland. They would have to wait two days for it to come back.
As the guests look at the boat disappear in the horizon, two servant-looking people appear behind them, who quickly introduce themselves as
Flaming
and
Sarah
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The guests introduce themselves to these people, too, and the servants announce that they would listen to anything they needed.
After this, the servants ask the eleven people to follow them and guide everyone through a path on a forest, and only stop walking when they reach a tree with a ladder against it.
It is then that they announce that Xerxes Lefan, the man who had invited them all, had decided to build his mansion on top of a big tree for some reason.
Although everyone is a bit shocked by this, it does not stop the guests from climbing the ladder anyway.
Once they had reached the top, a big mansion which had been built neatly on top of the tree face all of them. The two servants slowly walk towards the mansion’s door and open it, revealing three other servant-looking people cleaning the Entrance’s floor on the other side.
The servants, after noticing the guests had arrived, quickly greet them. Flaming introduces the three as
Fracie
,
Zeus
and
Luka
.
After this, Flaming and Sarah guide the guests through the mansion’s halls, leaving the other servants behind.
Both Flaming and Sarah stop in front of a door which has a sign labeled “Dining Hall”, which they open and make the guests go through.
Inside, they find a big brown table in the center of the room, and circling it they see thirteen chairs. In two of them, two men talking to each other can be seen.
They are
Xerxes Lefan
, the house owner, and
Alex Lettuce
, who seems to be his private doctor.
Flaming signals Xerxes, who then notices the guests, and tells everyone to sit down.
Once sat down, everyone starts talking to each other about the old times: Like that time when Tech believed Nate when he told him he could turn into a dinosaur if he undressed in front of a girl, or like that time Yarn jumped off a tree in order to impress her crush, or that time Xerxes had scammed everyone for their money. Those were precious memories for them.
Probably.

After hours talking, it’s night, and most people are tired. Xerxes orders Flaming to guide the sleepy people to their designated rooms and then keeps talking with others.
And so, Wuxya White gets up from the table along with some others and leaves the room with Flaming.
Wuxya takes one last look behind before leaving the Dining Hall, and inside, she sees Xerxes, Alex, Nate, Yarn and Takumi still awake and talking to each other. Fracie is in the corner of the room, waiting for Xerxes to order her.
The door closes, and Flaming guides everyone to their room.
Once inside her room, Wuxya jumps onto his bed and quickly falls asleep.
She must get a lot of sleep: he will have to investigate the mansion tomorrow, after all…
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:28 am

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Meanwhile, somewhere else...


Xerxes is seen still talking with his friends in the Dining Hall.
He glances at the table and notices his cup is empty, so he calls the servant Fracie, who is still standing in the corner of the room, and tells her to refill it.
She nods and walks to the table, but as soon she takes some steps towards it, she falls face flat on the floor.
Some laughter is heard, but it soon stops when they realize she's not standing up.
Xerxes leaves his chair, walks to Fracie and shakes her. Following this, he tells Doctor Alex to check on her.
As both men check on Fracie and the other 3 look at them shocked, someone kicks the door open.
"Helllloooo everybody! I'm the great wizard Segaco, nice to meat you!"
A person with a mask enters the room, and Alex, who is checking Fracie's vitals, doesn't notice the masked person as he confirms Fracie's death.
"Who the hell are you?!" Xerxes takes a handgun out of his pocket and aims it at the masked guy. It may be a prank, he thinks, but Luka told him he had checked the luggages of all guests while they weren't looking, and he doesn't remember him mention anyone had the blue suit, hat and mask Segaco was wearing. This person may be someone who snuck in.
"How rude." With a grin, the self proclaimed wizard snaps his fingers, and the gun on Xerxes' hand turns to dust.
"W..Wha-" Xerxes looks at his hand in confusion. Because of this, he doesn't notice the big fireball being thrown at his face.
Upon contact with the fireball, Xerxes' face is destroyed and he collapses on the floor, dead.
"Well, who's next?"

In the five minutes that follow, the remaining people try to flee the room through the door but find it locked. And so, the wizard kills doctor Alex, Nate, Yarn and Takumi all with fire balls, destroying their faces in the process. The remaining person was Fracie, but he had killed her already, so Segaco only destroys her face.
Having killed everyone in there, Segaco sets all windows' locks from the inside and vanishes from the room.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:30 am

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At 6:30 AM, the following morning, Wuxya is woken up by the sounds of screams and cries.
She stands up and leaves her room. Once in the hallway, she meets Watson, who tells White he woke up for the same reason as her.
As they talk about the shouts and cries, Thorus and Orange walk down the stairs and ask what the screaming is about.
They all scratch their head until they hear a loud scream coming from downstairs.
Once the four run to the first floor, they find the Dining Hall’s door wide open and smell the scent of blood filling the air.
Worried, Wuxya dashes into the Dining Hall, only to find a gruesome scene...
Xerxes Lefan, Doctor Alex, Yarn Watch, Nate Turner, Takumi Hijri and the servant Fracie lay dead against the table on the center of the room.
Their faces are… gone, it’s almost as if something had hit their face, removing them completely. The only way one could recognize the corpses were by the clothes they were wearing.
Next to the corpses are Flaming, Fen and Luka, who are standing there in shock.
As Wuxya looks at the scene before her, Watson, Thorus and Orange enter the room. Their faces immediately turn white when they see the corpses.


(You may now question people and look around, you can also leave the room if you wish
You can also ask other players what they did last night and stuff, not just NPCs. I'll answer for them.)
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:23 am

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Are we allowed to do things with info we wouldn't know about? (Like question Luka about saying the suit wasn't in any guest's luggage)
And do we know the map is a 100% accurate representation of the entrances/exits (ie there are no secret passages)?
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:44 am

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(1.no
2.yes)
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:50 am

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Can I get a female name for my detective?
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:18 am

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(william must be male or else it will affect something i cant mention
i can give him a name that can be used for both males and females though)
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:43 am

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If it's a love interest, just make them lesbian :3
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:45 am

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yeah playing as a male character for me is a bad feeling. Like, dysphoria inducing feeling. Could you just make it function so the detective can be female?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:46 am

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Anyways, everyone's here? I'm gonna start by asking everyone about their whereabouts and alibis.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:47 am

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(alright, i'll just do what JDGA said
please do actions while I change things
William's name is now Wuxya)
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(Is Knox's in effect?)
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:50 am

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(you'll have to find that out in the meta phase)
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:52 am

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I will examine the bodies.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:18 am

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(if you have any more questions pm me)

Orange looks around the room in shock, and manages to say the words "...Who found the bodies?"
"I have..." it takes a few seconds, but the servant boy named Luka is the one who answers. "T-the door was locked, sir..."
After getting that, Orange asks Wuxya, Luka, Flaming, Fen, Watson and Thorus, the ones currently in the dining hall, what they did last night.
All of them respond something along the lines of "I was sleeping."
...
As Orange asks around for alibies, Wuxya examines the bodies one by one. The first thing she confirms is their death, because maybe at least one person was, in fact, alive.
That hope fades away as she confirms the sixth corpse's death.
After confirming all deaths, she looks inside the bodies' pockets while trying to not be seen.
The only thing she manages to find is an envelope in Xerxes' pocket.
As she pockets the envelope, Tech enters the room through the open door along with his daughter Jezz.
"What happened?!" he screams, and notices the bodies seconds after. "W-what the hell??!! Jezz, don't look!"
Tech quickly takes Jezz, who started crying as soon as she saw the bodies, out to the hallway.
Ryax, Sarah and Zeus enter the room afterwards.
"Guys, we heard someone scream, is everything alrig-" Like the others, Ryax stops once he sees the bodies.
Orange had just finished interrogating everyone in the room, so he walks up to the three who just entered and asks them what they did last night.
He doesn't manage to learn much, as the three claimed they were sleeping.
...
While everyone asks each other what happened, Sarah approaches Xerxes, screams, and finally collapses on the floor.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:45 am

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I will check on Sarah as well!
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:50 am

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Wuxya runs to Sarah and checks if she's okay.
...
She seems to be fine, just unconscious. Maybe seeing the corpses was too much for her?
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:30 pm

Post by JDGA »

I look at everyone else in the meantime, making sure they're okay (and that no one tries using the distraction for anything weird)
Fickle, cold and harsh or caring and warm
Strongly opinionated or barely invested, but a constant
You know the wind will always come back.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:45 pm

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I'll stand up and tell everyone that we need to gather the bodies together in a place and then all sit down and talk
Yes my Lord, but questions are dangerous, for they have answers.

13 heads and counting now, plurality is adaptive. If our experience might help you,
click here
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If you wish to
speak to one of us
, we are Niamh, Rhiannon, Rhea, Aisling, Saoirse, Selene, Aoife, Fírinne, Aurélie, Lyra, Airna, Fiadh and Laoise.
Soar on wings of retribution and set the world ablaze
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