Secret Hitler (Game Over)

[Something_Smart]

the dead person's alignment would be revealed

This doesn't happen.

And my math: there are two unplayed cards and three missing liberal policies. Nobody disagreed about what two cards the chancellor had, so at least one liberal, and very like two, must have been burned by the president.

Now, it could have been Reck or Not_Mafia. But that would imply both unlikely and unfortunate card distributions, and if we try to open that can of worms we're extremely unlikely to win. (And we're from the beginning, given how terrible the cards would have been.) So if we assume that neither NM nor Reck burned a liberal... then either the last two cards were liberal or two of the last three presidents burned a liberal.

[mallowgeno]

Pass presidency to BuJaber

I'm liking what I'm hearing from him

[Something_Smart]

Based on what I literally just said... that should be a scumclaim.

[inspiratieloos]

BuJaber, you might want to try pretending you're a Liberal?
Remember, you're saying you buried a Fascist, not a Liberal. From your POV SS should be Fascist and Mitillos Liberal, not the other way around. There's not a single scumteam that makes sense with what you said unless you're a Fascist yourself.

As for Reck's alignment, if he's a Fascist Reck/BuJaber accounts for up to 3 buried Liberals. Any other combination of BuJaber/someone only accounts for up to 2, though that still allows for a Liberal being at the bottom of the pile or there being 3 Fascists among the presidents.

[inspiratieloos]

Pass presidency to BuJaber

I'm liking what I'm hearing from him

Seriously? Even if you don't think he's scum for some reason he's still obviously wrong.

All his arguments either make no sense or only makes sense if written from the knowledge that he himself buried a Liberal card.

[Ausuka]

mallowgeno has called a Special Election with BuJaber as president.

The sixth election begins. The current president is

BuJaber

, who may nominate everyone except himself, mallowgeno and xRECKONERx.

[xRECKONERx]

LMFAO okay mallow with the real life scumclaim thank you for the ezdunk sir

this presidency gettin voted down ya dig

[inspiratieloos]

Real life scumclaim?

[xRECKONERx]

should say real live, leave me be

[xRECKONERx]

bujaber it doesn't matter who you pick im downvoting sorry xoxo

[BuJaber]

Doesn't matter. Point was to have confirmed scum one way or another. Take the investigations for example. I know inspi is a fascist but unless somehow that is proven to everybody it doesn't do me much good.
And no inspi, If SS is liberal then NM or reck could have buried a liberal if they went with hitler or are hitler themselves. I'm not sure about SS's alignment, but I don't understand the Ja votes last round which is the only thing outwardly suspect about him. And how do you know that mallow didn't throw a liberal?

But all my arguments were based on the dead people's alignment being revealed. Looked back after SS's post to check.. the thing that happens is we know if someone is hitler or not only. I knew some info is revealed at death and I mixed up the 2 things. Sorry about that. So that play is out of the picture.

Why Reck? We shouldn't waste the special presidency.
Only reason to downvote this one is if you think both mallow and I are fascists.

I want to pick nsg so I can test her before her presidency.

[northsidegal]

so i'm neining this presidency?

[xRECKONERx]

we shouldn't waste it?? what on earth

i think mallow is fascist and will pass you double f
or i think you're a fascist and will pick the f if mallow passes you one

that's insane

[BuJaber]

No I'm president and I get to pick a chancellor now. And then the presidency continues to nsg as normal.

Mallow won't see the policies.. his turn is over.

[Mitillos]

The rules reminder corner (a.k.a. I don't have much of substance to add to the proceedings, at the moment):

1) BuJ can nominate anyone (

including e.g. Reck, the previous chancellor

) as chancellor for this coming government. Personally, I'm confident enough in inspi-fasc at this point, that I will only vote nein if the chancellor is picked from {S_S, mallow, inspi, Vij, nico}.

2) If we nein the next three governments in a row, we will get an automatic policy passed. Assuming there have been two discard lies, one of the two remaining cards is F and the other L. If F passes, the opportunity to use one of the two kill powers will be lost. Also, if there were three discard lies, then both the remaining cards are F.

3) The next government will also come with a deck reshuffle. Assuming we don't nein three times (or more), then the deck will have 8F 4L. The probability of 3F at that point will be just over 25%.

[BuJaber]

(including e.g. Reck, the previous chancellor)

Is this true Ausuka?

I was under the impression that the special election means that potentially the president can be a repeat but the chancellor slot cannot be. Like say if I was chancellor last election I can be president if mallow picks me. But now that he did I cannot pick neither mallow nor reck.

[Mitillos]

I'm going by post 380. If that is incorrect, then disregard what I said.

[mallowgeno]

With 3 facist policies don't we have to not elect hitler as chancellor this time too? That is something to be cautious of.

[inspiratieloos]

Doesn't matter. Point was to have confirmed scum one way or another. Take the investigations for example. I know inspi is a fascist but unless somehow that is proven to everybody it doesn't do me much good.
And no inspi, If SS is liberal then NM or reck could have buried a liberal if they went with hitler or are hitler themselves. I'm not sure about SS's alignment, but I don't understand the Ja votes last round which is the only thing outwardly suspect about him. And how do you know that mallow didn't throw a liberal?

Ah, yes, I completely missed the part where you think that Reck or NM are scum...

No reck we need you and 1 other person we all agree on to be the 2 chancellors that we rotate until the end of the game.

As for chancellor I think we have to hedge our bets and go with NM.

Wait.

That's the problem here, we know there are almost certainly 2 (possibly 3) Fascists in {Reck, NM, Bu, SS, mallow}, with them most likely being among the last three that actually passed Fascist policies. Your play is completely inconsistent with someone who genuinely believes two other people buried a Liberal. You can't at the same time say "I didn't bury a Liberal", "I think Reck and NM are trustworthy enough to make Chancellor" and "SS is likely a Liberal."

Btw, mallow who do you think buried the Liberals if you trust BuJaber enough to make him President?

[mallowgeno]

That was a cleverly disguised prodge.

Who is this person?

[mallowgeno]

By my current logic NM/SS would have to have burried one.

[BuJaber]

I'm not though. You're the one who's been trying to paint me as having hardreads on people when I've been advocating for a more strategic approach which should give us some confirmed libs or fascists. At least it would have when I thought that we'd know the alignment of who he shoots.
The only hardread I had is that reck is townie. And that's why he shouldn't have been picked last round he should be picked now when we can't afford to pick hitler for chancellor.

It's a game of coin flips. We know for sure that 2 out of NM SS and mallow (or reck but that's very unlikely) buried a liberal. (I don't get how you and SS are coming up with 3 buried liberals if there are 2 liberal policies achieved already and we haven't drawn all the cards yet.
We also know that 1 of SS & mitillos is a liberal.

I think NM is more likely to be liberal than SS and less likely to be hitler if fascist so after reck he's the safest pick for chancellor. SS we can afford to have as president even if I'm wrong because if he is scum he is forced to play in a way that doesn't conftown mitilos which means he's predictable.

Nsg is also a good choice and potentially worth the risk because she is going next and since nobody seemed to talk to her or about her much I don't really think she can be hitler.

So I'm picking NM or nsg. Which one will people vote ja for?

[BuJaber]

You can say neither but I just want everyone's vote on the record before the voting.

[mallowgeno]

@Mod can we replace NicoRobin?

[xRECKONERx]

lmao who