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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:39 am

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Actually, we still have 12/12 right now since Panzer doesn't want to play with 12+. But hopefully we'll get a couple more from the reminders I sent.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:37 pm

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+12, not 12+
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:05 pm

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Right, that’s what I meant.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:16 am

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honestly playing w/ more than 12 people sounds fucking miserable
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:37 am

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I’ve never done anything other than 12 man leagues (and a 11-teamer that I just BSed my way through). But I’ve played in a league where the benches are three more players than standard so that comes out to a standard 14-teamer’s waiver wire.

I have done everything in baseball from a nine team league to a 24 team league and the strategies are very very different between them...
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:34 am

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14 plays fine, it's just deep. Bit more of a crapshoot in terms of who wins the league as a result, but in this case the main thing would be finishing top 4, not placing 1st.

I'll leave signups open til end of day, but I'm not really expecting anyone else based on who has already read the most recent reminder.

We could still go 12/8/8 to get Panzer back in, with peg, Rob, and I filling out the rest of L3. I am not opposed to that plan. (Promotion would still be top 3 from L2 and winner of L3, unless one of the duplicates won L3 in which case #9 in L1 would stay up?)
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:35 am

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With 14 teams I’d want to expand to a 6 team playoff. I’d rather not play an eight team league personally, but I would if needed. Also there’s the issue that L3 would be 3/8 people in a second league.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:36 am

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(Would also at least add a flex position if we have 8 team leagues. 8 team with standard rosters would be way too stacked.)
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:36 am

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Yeah, 14 team would be 6 team playoff (which is fine, 14 team round robin is only 13 weeks, instead of our usual 14 week schedule).
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:37 am

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Wait we didn’t math right, we would only need two people playing twice since we have 26 as it stands.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:43 am

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In post 81, D3f3nd3r wrote:Also there’s the issue that L3 would be 3/8 people in a second league.
This wouldn't be unprecedented. In 2012, I called signups at 12/14, but an unofficial L3 formed later with 5 new players and 3 dupes. That was the first year with three leagues, actually (and promotion stayed at 4 from L2, since L3 was unofficial - didn't matter anyway, as the winner of L3 didn't play the next year).
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:44 am

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In post 84, D3f3nd3r wrote:Wait we didn’t math right, we would only need two people playing twice since we have 26 as it stands.
We have 26 if hascow plays; but he only wants to play if it makes an even number, and we don't need him if we have three willing dupes.

Would be different if we had 28 counting him, I'd certainly ask if he's willing to play to avoid any dupes. But if we're having them anyway...
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:46 am

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Also need to start coming up with an elaborate draft lottery for Luke to help me with...
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:03 am

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In post 81, D3f3nd3r wrote:With 14 teams I’d want to expand to a 6 team playoff. I’d rather not play an eight team league personally, but I would if needed. Also there’s the issue that L3 would be 3/8 people in a second league.
I agree with all of this. 14 team league, 6 playoff. 14 better than 8. And 3 duplicate not being fun.

In 2012, "L3" was the slacker league that was thrown together because people signed up too late. It was more "oh crap I missed it, can I still play?" and duplicates made sense just to make it happen. Here, we'd be doing it just to avoid a 14 team league, which to me sounds a lot more fun than 8. I'm just one of 26 though, so take it for what it's worth.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:10 am

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Sharon wanted me to pass on that she is against 8 team league as well.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:32 am

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8 team is way more fun than 14 IMO
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:55 am

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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:11 am

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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:52 am

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Now we’ve got 28 for 12/8/8 with hascow or one double. I’d love to get to 30 though :)
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:23 am

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Yup. 14 team is no longer in consideration, and Panzerjager is back to a definite yes.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:28 am

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Quick let’s get to 40! :P
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:43 am

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I can almost guarantee we will have someone wanting to sign up after I close signups...
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:56 pm

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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:10 pm

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I'm going to say what I said before. I think a 12 team league is that sweet spot between a scarcity on the WW (14 teams) and saturated (10 teams).


I also feel like L1 should
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be a 12 team and thus L2 should also be a 12 team to prepare for L1 and L3 is just whatever is left. To put in in terms Panzer would understand, L3 is our D league and L1 is our NBA and L2 is what is inbetween or maybe D league isn't the lowest? IDK much about basketball.

L1=MLB
L2=AAA
L3=AA
those that don't sign up/those that sign up but don't play=A

there, that's better.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:17 pm

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I've found 10 to be the sweet spot, but 12 is pretty similar.
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