Pirate Game Reboot - Game Over: BuJaber and Inferno390 win!

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Post Post #0  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:52 pm

Shamelessly pirated from vonflare and this thread.

Ahoy mateys and welcome to the Pirate Game!

You, and everyone else who signs up for this game, is a pirate on a ship that found a treasure chest of 100 gold coins.

In accordance with pirate law, here is how you will split the treasure:

1: All pirates will be randomly placed in order of 'seniority'.
2: The most senior pirate becomes the pirate captain and will propose a plan on how to split the gold.
3: All pirates will then vote yes or no on whether they find this plan acceptable.
4: If the vote passes (and the captain wins ties) then the gold is distributed as the plan dictates.
5: If the majority voted no, a mutiny occurs and the pirate captain is killed, with the second most senior pirate becoming the new captain. The new captain now proposes a new plan, starting again from step 2.

This goes on until a plan is voted acceptable.

Collect as much gold as you can through multiple iterations of the game - but if you die in an iteration you will lose 50% of your stored gold.

The first pirate to collect 400 gold is the winner. If more than one pirate has over 400 on the same round then the pirate with the most gold is the winner.

Here is the Scientific American article describing some game theory.

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Post Post #1  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:27 pm

what's the incentive for eliminating other people? like in the original thing it was specifically stated that the pirates enjoy throwing each other overboard so it made sense that they were bribing each other to stay alive, but here the goal is to just collect money

i dont see why the optimal strategy in this version is not to give everyone as equal of a share as possible and vote out people who refuse to comply? (basically along the lines of the prisoner's dilemma along multiple iterations, where the optimal strategy is to cooperate until your opponent defects, where you then defect them until they cooperate again)?

/in anyway
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Post Post #2  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:55 pm

I think in this version there is more incentive to eliminate people. Fewer pirates means more gold to go around and eliminating the captain causes him to lose half of his stored gold. It will be interesting to see what strategy works best here.

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Post Post #3  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:29 pm

/in
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Post Post #4  (ISO)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:58 am

Yeah, if there are 5 people and the capt splits everything 20-20-20-20-20 then the other four can vote him out and shoot for a 25-25-25-25. (Of course, maybe then the four get voted out and the actual split is 34-33-33...)

Question: Are you allowed to propose that some of the gold is thrown into the sea? (in case your plan adds up to 95 or 97 and you do not want to make changes for fear of messing up your intended votes)

Edit: I would like to participate
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Post Post #5  (ISO)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:58 am

Sure, I will allow you to propose to throw some gold into the sea, but it does not seem like something a greedy pirate would want to do. Remember the goal is to collect as much gold as possible.

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Post Post #6  (ISO)  » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:28 pm

I might want to for diplomacy reasons so that no one gets jealous and rejects a plan they were supposed to approve.
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Post Post #7  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:49 am

Still hoping for some more people. I will start this on Saturday.

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Post Post #8  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:02 pm

If you get 6+ players then I will drop out
If you get exactly 5 players then I will play just to keep the game interesting
If you get 4- players then it would be a shame for someone to leave so I would stay
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Post Post #9  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:19 pm

Since there is no secret information in this game, I will play too.

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Post Post #10  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:34 pm

Spicy
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Post Post #11  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:10 pm

Ooh
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Post Post #12  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:06 pm

Me: 45
James: 0
Charles: 0
Katusha: 55


VOTE: Yes
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Post Post #13  (ISO)  » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:04 pm

lol i wanna say yes but im scared that it's gonna make me a target the next rounds
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Post Post #14  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:03 am

VOTE: No

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Post Post #15  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:23 am

james if i vote no how would you distribute the money

i might (!) act against my interests for the Greater Good owo
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Post Post #16  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:34 am

James is free to say that he will pick 44-0-56 but whether he actually will or not is another matter entirely.

Keep in mind that if it goes to 2 players then Charles can just steal everything.

Also keep in mind that I would also be somewhat of a "target" the next rounds.
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Post Post #17  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:38 am

i'm not dumb enough to risk that on a single coin lmao, i have my motives
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Post Post #18  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:41 pm

So I am a nice guy.
I’d do 36-32-32
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Post Post #19  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:41 pm

Not 34-33-33?
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Post Post #20  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:22 pm

He could be lying and then do 99-0-1

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Post Post #21  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:04 pm

Right, obviously. I still benefit from that fwiw but he can just as easily do 99-1-0 too which I don't want.
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Post Post #22  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:10 pm

But I wouldn’t do that! I’m a good Catholic.
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Post Post #23  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:13 pm

:)

I'm mostly thinking about the short and long term advantages I guess
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Post Post #24  (ISO)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:15 pm

VOTE: Yes

Short term makes more sense here I think because I don't really expect people to be that trustworthy if we're not evenly distributing right off the bat.
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