Pirate Game Reboot - Game Over: BuJaber and Inferno390 win!

[Charles510]

That's two yes, one no, and one heck no.
The captain breaks the tie and the distribution is agreed to!

Standings

Katyusha	55
2 718281828459	45
James Brafin	0
Charles510	0

[Charles510]

Round 2:

There were 4 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Katyusha
Charles510
2 718281828459
James Brafin

Katyusha is the captain, please propose a plan on how to split the gold!

[Katyusha]

aight

• Katyusha: 1
  
• Charles: 50
  
• E: 0
  
• James: 49

E's optimal play is going to vote no matter what unless I give him 100 coins so I'm not going to bother bribing him.

Charles, this puts you in second place - I can't distribute the coins so that the placement puts us closer without giving myself absolutely nothing, which is kind of going against wincon. A lead of 6 coins is also pretty easy to beat so I wouldn't advise getting greedy here because that leads to E getting the entirety of the coins since James has no reason to vote No to this proposition and Yes to the next.

James, if Charles decides to turn this down, he has to bribe you to make sure you vote yes since it is always within E's (or anyone in the third slot) best interest to vote no. Assuming he doesn't deliberately spite himself, he's either going to cut it 50/50 (which would be dumb since that puts his competition closer to him after I die) or give you less money.

This is basically an "everyone wins" plan the best I can make it, except for E obviously but he can't really win as the third slot.

[Charles510]

I am tempted to vote no just to have Katyusha lose half of her gold.
James, what do you think?

[Katyusha]

That means either putting James at a closer lead behind you, expecting James to accept getting less gold, or choosing to receive less gold

The numbers are close enough that it hurts me more than it helps you. Getting a 6 or 7 coin lead over me isn't going to be that hard.

[Katyusha]

Now, if I had like 100 something coins then yeah killing me would be the obvious play. When you basically catch up with me with my plan, it doesn't help you at all and just leaves E more likely to take all the gold.

[James Brafin]

If you’d split the gold 50/50, I’d vote no.

[Charles510]

Agreed!

VOTE: No

[Katyusha]

if he doesnt actually follow through voting no here's a choke

[James Brafin]

I mean, you and I win either way, so even if this passes we’re going to be good.

[Katyusha]

you're basically choosing if 1 extra coin and putting me behind (when i'm not far ahead) is worth me being less willing to compromise in future situations

it's short term vs long term but the short term benefit isn't that helpful imo

[Katyusha]

and ofc charles can lie here so there's also that risk (if you vote no to charles's plan E just gives himself 100 coins and you can't stop him)

[Inferno390]

Hi
/in for next round?

[Charles510]

Hi Inferno, yes you can join next round

[James Brafin]

I mean he can, but if he does he’s gonna make no friends, so...

[James Brafin]

VOTE: nah

[Charles510]

2.718 has the deciding vote!

[Katyusha]

*shrug*

i guess i should have said no last time sorry guys

[Katyusha]

what's funny is that my initial plan gave charles and myself a lot more money which is probably what I should have stuck to

[2 718281828459]

aight

• Katyusha: 1
  
• Charles: 50
  
• E: 0
  
• James: 49

E's optimal play is going to vote no matter what unless I give him 100 coins so I'm not going to bother bribing him.

That is only when I am second in command. So you SHOULD give me coins, because if it got down to

three

people then I would actually get nothing. VOTE: No

Charles, this puts you in second place - I can't distribute the coins so that the placement puts us closer without giving myself absolutely nothing, which is kind of going against wincon. A lead of 6 coins is also pretty easy to beat so I wouldn't advise getting greedy here because that leads to E getting the entirety of the coins since James has no reason to vote No to this proposition and Yes to the next.

James, if Charles decides to turn this down, he has to bribe you to make sure you vote yes since it is always within E's (or anyone in the third slot) best interest to vote no. Assuming he doesn't deliberately spite himself, he's either going to cut it 50/50 (which would be dumb since that puts his competition closer to him after I die) or give you less money.

Again, if it gets down to 3 people, the one in second will get none and the one in third will get whatever that third wants. You know that in a 2-player game the captain can steal all the gold?

This is basically an "everyone wins" plan the best I can make it, except for E obviously but he can't really win as the third slot.

This is still on the "third slot unlucky" thing that I just disproved.

VOTE: No

[Katyusha]

Charles can literally propose anything he wants because he’s the second person - literally because a 2 player game is autowin for the captain

Since James has the threat of losing to you getting 100 coins if he turns down whatever Charles offers, he bascially has to take whatever charles offers. so if Charles gives 10 coins to James he has to accept lest you get 100 coins, despite the fact that I offered him more.

Unless Charles stays true to 50/50’ing, James is deciding between losing and losing harder

[Katyusha]

Like

The second proposal can absolutely be:

Charles: 99
You: 0
James: 1

And James’s best play would be to accept that despite the fact I gave him more since him having 1 coin and Charles 99 is better than you having 145.

[Katyusha]

This is how multiple rounds impacts the correct strategy

I definitely choked by not bribing James harder since there was basically 0 incentive for them *not* to kill me by only giving him 49 coins

[Katyusha]

Like if I bribed you and James instead the situation would be worse since Charles can argue to James that it’s better to risk him giving a new offer so that you don’t get any money whatsoever

[Charles510]

Katyusha walks the plank!

Charles510 is the new captain!

I could propose 99-0-1, but I will keep my promise to James.

Propose:
Charles 50
e 0
James 50