Codenames (Game 65 in progress)

[Nancy Drew 39]

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... lish/scale

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictio ... glish/buck

[Not_Mafia]

Field operatives may discuss clues with each other if they so wish, but they must do so in thread—getting help from outside the thread (for example, searching on Google) is not allowed, nor is help permitted from anyone not participating in the current game. (As a matter of fact, when in doubt, you should treat the currently ongoing match like you would a Mafia game.)

[Farren]

I'm going to quote from the physical rulebook here:

"If a spymaster gives an invalid clue, the team's turn ends immediately. As an additional penalty, the other team's spymaster may cover one of [their] words with an agent card before giving the next clue.

"But if no one notices that a clue is invalid, it counts as valid."

This is the only example in the physical rulebook of how to handle a rule violation. As such, I consider this to exemplify the spirit of how to handle any overt rule violation in Codenames - it's up to the Spymasters to keep an eye on the other team. They call out rule violations and assess the penalty; if they don't notice, that's on them. (At least for overt violations - anything that can be clearly seen by the Spymasters.)

If CM1 (acting as a player) had called this out, I would say this rule applies in full - we lose our turn, CM1 gets to reveal a free agent.
If any other Red team member had called this out, I'd still be inclined to say it applies - they're playing the game, they're materially affected by our rule violation, they absolutely are entitled to point out a violation to their Codemaster, which means the first case applies.

So what happens when someone who isn't playing points it out? Do we have a precedent for what happens to the game when someone not in the game participates?

[StrangerCoug]

So what happens when someone who isn't playing points it out? Do we have a precedent for what happens to the game when someone not in the game participates?

I don't recall it ever happening in games I've modded, so I don't believe there is one.

[CreativeMod1]

As the mod and the opposing spymaster I'm gonna try and be fair in a ruling here and if anyone disagrees I'm happy to open it up to a discussion.

Given that this is Nancy's first game, I'm gonna be a bit more fair here and allow the game to carry on as normal and just simply issue a warning to Nancy, please don't use outside resources to help yourself or your team

Game continues as normal unless anyone disagrees with me

[StrangerCoug]

Warning seems to be the least disruptive here for a first offense.

[Nancy Drew 39]

As the mod and the opposing spymaster I'm gonna try and be fair in a ruling here and if anyone disagrees I'm happy to open it up to a discussion.

Given that this is Nancy's first game, I'm gonna be a bit more fair here and allow the game to carry on as normal and just simply issue a warning to Nancy, please don't use outside resources to help yourself or your team

Game continues as normal unless anyone disagrees with me

Oh I’m sorry, I had no idea that this wasn’t allowed.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I swear I had no idea. I thought it was okay but I promise it won’t ever happen again.

[Charles510]

[Farren]

So. BUCK, SCALE, or an impassioned argument for something that is neither of those things?

Nancy? Sirius?

I'm thinking SCALE at the moment. Connections to multiple clues is too strong to ignore, I think.

[Sirius9121]

Agree scale, agree buck

[Farren]

We can only guess one this round. Which do you think it should be, and why?

[Farren]

Just about out of time.

Sirius listed SCALE before BUCK, so I'm going to assume that means he has a preference for SCALE over BUCK. And last Nancy weighed in on the two, she had SCALE listed first.

Scale

.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Just about out of time.

Sirius listed SCALE before BUCK, so I'm going to assume that means he has a preference for SCALE over BUCK. And last Nancy weighed in on the two, she had SCALE listed first.

Scale

.

Yeah good with that.

[CreativeMod1]

Scale is Blue
That's the end of your turn as you've guessed all 3 words

GRASS	AFRICA	BUCK	CAT	SCALE
BOW	SCREEN	TUBE	VAN	BRIDGE
CODE	MUG	WAR	GIANT	KETCHUP
DINOSAUR	MINT	SOLDIER	MOLE	FLY
TORCH	COLD	SPACE	COURT	STADIUM

Blue Clues	Red Clues
ANIMAL - 3	DARK - 5
NUMBERS - 2	TRUCK - Infinite

Team	Spy Master	Members
RED TEAM	CreativeMod1	Save The Dragons, Charles510, StrangerCoug
BLUE TEAM	Tris	Nancy Drew 39, Farren, Sirius9121

[CreativeMod1]

Red team, next clue is:

CRIME: Infinite

[StrangerCoug]

Perhaps MUG (as in mugging someone) and WAR?

[Save The Dragons]

i could see court as well

[StrangerCoug]

Good catch.

[Charles510]

I like Court > Mug

[StrangerCoug]

Let's go with

COURT

first then.

[Farren]

Think guesses have to be on their own line (and either bolded or with GUESS) to count?

[Charles510]

COURT

[CreativeMod1]

Court is Red

GRASS	AFRICA	BUCK	CAT	SCALE
BOW	SCREEN	TUBE	VAN	BRIDGE
CODE	MUG	WAR	GIANT	KETCHUP
DINOSAUR	MINT	SOLDIER	MOLE	FLY
TORCH	COLD	SPACE	COURT	STADIUM

Blue Clues	Red Clues
ANIMAL - 3	DARK - 5
NUMBERS - 2	TRUCK - Infinite
	CRIME - Infinite

Team	Spy Master	Members
RED TEAM	CreativeMod1	Save The Dragons, Charles510, StrangerCoug
BLUE TEAM	Tris	Nancy Drew 39, Farren, Sirius9121

[StrangerCoug]

How confident are we on MUG and WAR?