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Post Post #50  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:10 pm

HURT: p012 - i want to make it an amendment to p009 once it fails; at that point i'll redefine 'unique' as - cannot have the same title as any existing rules or active proposals.

VOTE: abstain p013

HURT: p014 - i feel like the point of this game is mindless loopholery? like spirit of rules is a little bit vague?

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Post Post #51  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:13 pm

oh wait i think p012 passed already, whoops

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Post Post #52  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:14 pm

HURT: P014
HEAL: T001, P013
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Post Post #53  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:16 pm

P0015: Proposal Withdrawals
A person may withdraw their own proposal if the voting period is still active

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Post Post #54  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:24 pm

In post 47, Charles510 wrote:Who knows what the spirit of a rule is? The rules should always be followed to the letter, including technical loopholes. Be sure to put the spirit of the rule as part of the text of the rule.

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This is why we have Calls for Judgement. That rule can't really be enforced, but it's meant more as a guideline for determining the correct verdict for a CfJ. The spirit is whatever the plurality decides, because that's how CfJs work.
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Post Post #55  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:29 pm

also i made this template page for anyone who wants to add new proposals to the wiki page.
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Post Post #56  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:56 pm

In post 51, skitter30 wrote:oh wait i think p012 passed already, whoops

Yeah, it did. Just make a new proposal to repeal it and add it as an amendment. Remember - if you're not enacting a new rule, you don't need a title.

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Post Post #57  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:10 pm

HURT: P011, P013
HEAL: P015

P016: Amend R306 by appending:
If a player ever has 0 or negative hit points they are eliminated.


P017: Amend R306 by appending:
A player may spend 20 reputation to cause another player to lose 1 hit point.


P018: Amend R306 by appending:
A player may spend 25 reputation to cause another player to gain 1 hit point.


P019: If and when this proposal is voted in, all players who voted for it, and never voted against it at any point in time, will receive 50 reputation, and the usual bonuses will NOT apply.

P020: Create a new rule:
Rate-Limiting Proposals: A player may not make more than 5 proposals within the span of 60 minutes. However, withdrawing a proposal causes it to no longer count towards this limit.


(Actually, I would have combined 016-018 into one, but I thought some people may disagree with some things and not others.)
019 is not a rule, it is an effect that happens once and once only.
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Post Post #58  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:13 pm

T002
R101: Authority of Rules
R102: Players
R103: Ability to Change Rules
R104: Editing and Deleting Posts
R105: Dominance of Immutable Rules
R106: Player Votes
R107: Transmutation of Immutable Rules
R108: Transmutation of Mutable Rules
R109: Voting Threshold Definitions
R110: New Rules
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Post Post #59  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:14 pm

Oh yeah. HEAL: T001 and HEAL: T002
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Post Post #60  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:16 pm

HEAL: P017, P018
HURT: P016
P019 and P020 don't count as real proposals because they don't have titles.
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Post Post #61  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:16 pm

P019 is totally unfair, but I don't want to vote against it for fear of it passing, and it is legal according to the rules. Goddamnit! VOTE: Abstain: P019 till I know what other people are doing.

HURT: P016 What does "eliminated" mean? I'm not a fan of permanently removing players.
HEAL: P017, P018, P020 P020 is a bit generous, but it can't hurt.
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Post Post #62  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:16 pm

HEAL: T002
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Post Post #63  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:17 pm

In post 61, Allomancer wrote:P019 is totally unfair, but I don't want to vote against it for fear of it passing, and it is legal according to the rules. Goddamnit! VOTE: Abstain: P019 till I know what other people are doing.

HURT: P016 What does "eliminated" mean? I'm not a fan of permanently removing players.
HEAL: P017, P018, P020 P020 is a bit generous, but it can't hurt.

P019 and P020 lack titles and stuff
does this require a cfj i dont think it should
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Post Post #64  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:18 pm

In post 60, Invisibility wrote:HEAL: P017, P018
HURT: P016
P019 and P020 don't count as real proposals because they don't have titles.

P020 does have a title: "Rate-Limiting Proposals". P019 doesn't establish a new rule so it doesn't need one... wait a minute...

CfJ001: There is no provision in the rules for one-time effects. Thus, this CfJ is established to determine the legality of P019.
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Post Post #65  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:20 pm

oh ok i see
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Post Post #66  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:20 pm

HEAL: P020
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Post Post #67  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:22 pm

P016 - P019 all do not have titles, so they are all invalid.

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Post Post #68  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:23 pm

P021: Rule Violations
Any player found guilty of breaking the rules by verdict of a CfJ shall be penalized 2 Reputation for every broken mutable rule and 5 Reputation for every broken immutable rule.
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Post Post #69  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:23 pm

In post 67, Charles510 wrote:P016 - P019 all do not have titles, so they are all invalid.

None are new rules. P016-P018 are amendments, and P019 is a one-time effect - see CfJ001.
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Post Post #70  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:25 pm

CfJ001-V1: One-time events should be in their own section on the wiki page and be numbered E01 and so on. They are still voted on as proposals.
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Post Post #71  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:25 pm

HEAL: P021
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Post Post #72  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:28 pm

P022
Amend 302 to "Someone is assumed to already be voting for their own proposal or CfJ verdict unless otherwise stated.

and, to make it official
P023: Call for Judgement Abbreviation
In the rules, CfJ stands for Call for Judgement unless otherwise stated
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Post Post #73  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:28 pm

CfJ001-V2: As there is no provision in the rules for one-time events, P019 shall be declared null and void. The rationale for this verdict over V1 is that Calls for Judgement should aim to be as unintrusive to the game as possible and are intended to determine the interpretation of the rules. V1 aims to establish a new rule, rather than interpret existing rules.
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Post Post #74  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:29 pm

HURT: P022 Not necessary, look at R304 "Players who propose a verdict assumed to be voting for their own verdict until they vote otherwise."
HEAL: P023
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