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Post Post #75  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:31 pm

HEAL: P015
HURT: P016
HEAL: P017
HEAL: P018
HEAL: T001
HEAL: T002

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Post Post #76  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:37 pm

oh oops
VOTE: withdraw P022
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Post Post #77  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:37 pm

CfJ001-V3: As there is no provision in the rules for one-time events, P019 should be interpreted as a new rule proposal.

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Post Post #78  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:40 pm

HEAL: P020
HEAL: P021

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Post Post #79  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:46 pm

P020 has a title...

Withdraw P016
P024: Create a new rule:
Elimination:
When a player is reduced to 0 Hit Points, they lose all their resources, items, etc and are not counted as a player. In 44 hours, they can re-join as though they are a new player.
This rule shall be inoperative if the Hit Points property is discontinued.


I wanted to find some way to add a clause to P024 that means that all future rules must take elimination into account and not end up with strange disputes, but I could not word it properly.

P-Edit: Apparently this is not P021 but P024...
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Post Post #80  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:50 pm

HEAL: CfJ-001V1
HEAL: P023
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Post Post #81  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:51 pm

In post 77, Charles510 wrote:CfJ001-V3: As there is no provision in the rules for one-time events, P019 should be interpreted as a new rule proposal.

But because it doesn't have a title, it would be in violation of R305, would it not? Making V2 the correct verdict here.
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Post Post #82  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:56 pm

HEAL: CfJ-001V2
HEAL: P023

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Post Post #83  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:56 pm

HEAL: P024

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Post Post #84  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:57 pm

I guess that leaves skitter as the deciding vote in the CfJ
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Post Post #85  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:59 pm

Also, HURT: P021 because it does not specify whether or not it applies retroactively. I would, however, support one that explicitly states it does NOT work retroactively.

Withdraw P019.

Proposal P025: Create a new rule.
Events/Effects: A player may use a proposal to create a one-time effect (or event, these terms are synonymous). The numbering system is E001, E002, etc. They will pass with majority approval; however, the proposal may give itself a stricter condition (not a weaker condition!) for passing instead.
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Post Post #86  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:09 pm

In post 85, 2 718281828459 wrote:Also, HURT: P021 because it does not specify whether or not it applies retroactively. I would, however, support one that explicitly states it does NOT work retroactively.

You don't want one the DOES because you're afraid of CfJ001?
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Post Post #87  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:26 pm

In post 56, Allomancer wrote:
In post 51, skitter30 wrote:oh wait i think p012 passed already, whoops

Yeah, it did. Just make a new proposal to repeal it and add it as an amendment. Remember - if you're not enacting a new rule, you don't need a title.

HEAL: T001, P015


P026:
This proposal repeals P307 and amends P305 to read as follows:

Rules shall have titles; any proposal suggesting a rule must also suggest a title for said rule. Existing rules can be given titles or have their titles altered by titling proposals, beginning with T001. Each proposal or rule must be given a unique title, where a 'unique title' is defined as 'a title that does not share a title with any existing rule or active proposal'.

==
HURT: P016
HURT: P017
HEAL: P018
HEAL: P020

HEAL: T002

VOTE: abstain P021 - i need ot think about this one

HEAL: P023

i guess my problem with the whole hit-point thing as proposed is that people are propposed farily easy ways to remove hit-points and gain repuation (spending 20 reputation, and then giving 50 reputaiton to people who approve of that rule), but not that many ways rn to gain hit points; i feel like it's too easy to get people down to 0 points and that the penalty in P024 is kinda harsh

VOTE: abstain P024
HEAL: P025

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Post Post #88  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:46 pm

HEAL: P021, P026
HURT: P024
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Post Post #89  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:39 pm

HEAL: P025
HEAL: P026

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Post Post #90  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:48 pm

Also, you can heal someone by spending 25 reputation. But really, what is the point of a "Hit Points" currency if you are not penalized for reaching 0? At least I made mine so you can re-enter the game.
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Post Post #91  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:51 pm

Proposal P027: One-time event E001
When this event passes, all players who voted for it may choose to either gain 50 reputation or 3 Hit Points.


Proposal P028: New rule.
Hit Point Abbreviation: "HP" is an official abbreviation for "Hit Point(s)".


And to make is somewhat harder to die:
Proposal P029: New rule.
Gaining Hit Points: You may gain +1 hit point if you have not done so in the previous 68 hours.
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Post Post #92  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:55 pm

Proposal P030: Transmute rule 110 from immutable to mutable
I have something I want to propose, but this immutable rule is in the way.
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Post Post #93  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:04 pm

Sorry for the quadruple post, but:
Proposal P031: Amend rule R304 to state the following (red+strikeout = deleted text, green = added text):
New R304If players disagree about the legality of a rule or the interpretation of a rule, a player can request a Call for Judgement, beginning with CfJ001. Any player may propose a verdict for the disagreement, beginning with CfJ001-V1. Players use vote tags to support a verdict, in the form VOTE: CfJ001-V1. A player may vote for multiple different verdicts. No player may vote for the same verdict multiple times. Players who propose a verdict assumed to be voting for their own verdict until they vote otherwise.

Once a verdict reaches a majority of active player's votes, it is determined as the official ruling on the Call for Judgement, unless two or more verdicts have a majority and not all players are voting yet.. If all players are voting for a verdict, the verdict with the most votes wins. If there is a tie, the verdict proposed by the player with more reputation wins. If there is still a tie, the CfJ is not resolved until the circumstances change.[/color][/strike]


If there end up being, say, 6 different verdicts then we might need this.
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Post Post #94  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:10 pm

HURT: P031
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Post Post #95  (ISO)  » Mon Dec 31, 2018 9:13 pm

HURT: P031
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Post Post #96  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:29 am

Unofficial Proposal
I think it might be better if the proposals on the wiki page were color-coded. Like perhaps #006600 for passed proposals, #880000 for failed, and #0000cc for proposals that are still pending.
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Post Post #97  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:49 am

seems like an unnecessary hassle tbh
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Post Post #98  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:20 pm

The wiki is a community resource. You may do that if you like; there are no rules governing the use of the wiki.
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Post Post #99  (ISO)  » Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:17 pm

CfJ001-V4: As P019 has since been withdrawn, this Call for Judgement shall be resolved with no further action.
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