Nomic

[Inferno390]

VOTE: Nay to P019 & P020

Like I said, we really need to start with ironing out the rules before we add new concepts. Also, we would need to put in a delay period for approving proposals for P020 to work as intended without major issues.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Note that P0019 does not forbid a player from being in multiple coalitions, but P0020 does prevent the vote of a player on multiple coalitions from counting twice.

Pedit: I see what you mean. I'm definitely open to changes to P020.

[Inferno390]

We need one more vote to hammer 13 I think

[Inferno390]

Things we need to still:
Define what a proposal is
Define what a proposal can do
Define what transmuting, amending, and repealing rules are
Tell what majority it takes to create a rule (right now we’re working off of super majority, which is fine, but the rules don’t say this)


Either someone can work on writing these up or I’ll do it after school today, whichever ends up happening first.

[Inferno390]

Also, we need to add some clause that gets people to vote. We have 20 proposals in play right now and only 2 have been resolved. Not great.

[Inferno390]

Oh I missed Rule R204. Which is funny because I've already suggested an amendment to that rule.

P021:

Amend Rule R202 to state:
"

A proposal is a an action that can be made by any player that has the ability to create, amend, repeal or transmute a rule.

Proposals shall begin numbering at P001 and count up by each ordinal number.

When a proposal is created, all players vote on that proposal to decide whether it passes. A proposal passes if it meets the requirements set out for it based on what it is trying to do and any other rules that restrict how it passes.

When a proposal is made a new rule, the new rules will begin numbering at R301 and count up by each ordinal number. When a proposal amends a rule, -A1 shall be added to end of the rule number. The number will count up by each ordinal number for subsequent amendments. The original text of the rule, prior to any amendments, shall be designated by the suffix -A0."

P022:

Transmuting a rule refers to changing a rule from mutable to immutable or vice versa.

P023:
Amending a rule means to add or remove, clauses, words, or phrases from a rule. Whenever a rule is amended, those amendments immediately come into effect.

P024:
Repealing a rule means to remove a rule from the active standing rules. When a rule is repealed, any effects it may have immediately go away and it is removed from the standing rules.

[Inferno390]

P025:
Amend R206 to state:
"Votes for proposals should be done using the vote tags and include "Yea" or "Nay"

or similar positive and negative markers

and include the proposal number. A player can also abstain from voting; their vote will not be counted among the number of active votes."

P026:
transmute R208.

[Inferno390]

So I was reading through the rules and i noticed that R208 should actually be R301. I adjusted the rules as such.

[NotMySpamAccount]

We need one more vote to hammer 13 I think

I think mine was 4, which is majority with 7 players.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Things we need to still:
Define what a proposal is
Define what a proposal can do
Define what transmuting, amending, and repealing rules are
Tell what majority it takes to create a rule

(right now we’re working off of super majority, which is fine, but the rules don’t say this)

Either someone can work on writing these up or I’ll do it after school today, whichever ends up happening first.

No? 204 says absolute majority.

[Inferno390]

Clearly I can't read or comprehend what I'm reading or think in general

P013 passes. I'll update the wiki later tonight.

[NotMySpamAccount]

Clearly I can't read or comprehend what I'm reading or think in general

P013 passes. I'll update the wiki later tonight.

It's fine, we all have days lilke that.

VOTE: Yea on all of P021-P026, assuming that the minimal obvious grammatical/procedural changes are made.

[OkaPoka]

I'm not going to vote no yet but those new rules seem like they allow amendments without a revote which I don't like.

[Inferno390]

I'm not going to vote no yet but those new rules seem like they allow amendments without a revote which I don't like.

Which rules?

[OkaPoka]

p023

immediately into effect

im confused if that means if someone amends their proposal are the votes kept

[Inferno390]

P023 applies only to rules, not proposals.

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: yes p021-p024
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VOTE: no p025 p/vote]

[Inferno390]

Why no on P025?

[OkaPoka]

clarification: is abstaining someting you do explicitly or is not voting considered abstainig

[Inferno390]

That should be clarified. Because honestly I don’t know.

[Charles510]

I've been V/LA. I still intend to play

[Charles510]

VOTE: P001 Nay

[Charles510]

VOTE: P003 Nay

[Charles510]

VOTE: P005: Nay

[Charles510]

VOTE: P006 Nay